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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Gunbird on 03 January 2010, 06:21:26 PM
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I get my ideas from all over the place > http://community.livejournal.com/abandonedplaces/1980882.html
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/Granary1.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/granary2.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/granary3.jpg)
BIG HO Building, most of the rubble from SGTS' MESS rubble pack, green tires from a PST Zil kit. Basecoated in grey now so I can start washing it straight away after painting the roofs and groundwork (going for faded grey wood)
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Very nice :-*
How about a figure for scale ???
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Wow, love it, something BIG, that's what we like :D
cheers
James
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(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/HOGranary.jpg)
Those are 2 Russian 20mm paratroopers in front so you get an idea. If you ignore the door in the small shack it could easily pass for 28mm, if you don't mind the smallish windows that is.
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Who makes that building?
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No idea, I could not find a namestamp anywhere inside the building or on the base (which is highly unusual)
<edit: 5 mins of Googling later>
http://www.trainsetsonly.com/page/TSO/PROD/933-3036
Walthers Cornerstone - Farmers Cooperative Rural Grain Elevator Kit HO
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What a great find, perfectly sized and impressive!
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Thanks so much for that. I was looking for a bit, but you beat me to it. I thought this might be a good scale for This Quar's War, and the comparison picture sold me. Thanks!
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cute, great....
check @Michi's railway wagons for flour dusting (or You know them already)
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Looks like one of the two next to the railway here in town. Don't forget the flaking paint and moss growing on the roofs. :)
check @Michi's railway wagons for flour dusting (or You know them already)
That reminds me; filling up the big bags is no fun. The dust that comes out with the grain is so fine that it goes right through your clothing. Far worse than novelty itching powder, I must say. :(
Nice find!
Oh, and I've forgotten, once again, what HO scale is. 28mm scale-appropriate I hope?
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HO is a track gauge rather than a scale. The actual scale of associated models can vary. British OO gauge is the same sized track as HO, but the scale of the models are different. Airfix used to sell toy soldiers described as HO/OO scale, and they were more like 20mm or 1/72ish.
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Ah, so what then would you assume to be close to 28mm scale? Every time I think about PlasticVille buildings and railroad stuff I never can remember.
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I'm not sure. OO Gauge is king here in Blighty, and I haven't ever really had dealings with anything else. I have heard that S Gauge is the best fit for 28mm, but I personally have no experience of it, so don't take my word for it.
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HO is a track gauge rather than a scale. The actual scale of associated models can vary. British OO gauge is the same sized track as HO, but the scale of the models are different. Airfix used to sell toy soldiers described as HO/OO scale, and they were more like 20mm or 1/72ish.
Yes, I know the difference between gauge and scale. My reference to scale was to how the miniatures looked against the model itself, as the minis in TQW are shorter by design, and fit in between some common scales. Or gauges.
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for those who don't know
0 gauge is scaled between 1/45 and 1/48, S gauge around 1/64, so it is the decision is how big You want Your scenery to be - model railway stuff is hardly ever "true scale"
younger HO scenery kits fit with 28 mm, older ones can be even to small for 20mm
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This building fits fine with 28mm....just rip off the small building next to the scale....the loading door on the side is big enough and high enough to pass, and the big doors scale with no problem. Not sure about the 2nd building in that set though, But I would be more then happy to take it of someones hands (when I have money again :'( )
Isn't HO more 1/87? Some of my troops need to duck slightly before entering a door in most of my Railroad kit, lest they bang their forhead against the woodwork.
Paint and moss will be taken care off, don't worry. Stagnant pools of muddy water are included as well.
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HO scale is 1/87, 28mm as we all know is around 1/64, S scale is 1/60, N scale is 1/160( roughly), 15mm is around 1/120, and O scale is typically 1/48. That being said - the sizes vary depending on where in the world you live but most model RR standards are set by the NMRA ( National model RR assoc.) in order to keep most of the pieces parts somewhat standardized so they all work together ( in the same "scale" ). There is always a discussion somewhere as to what model train parts work best with gaming figures and the only conclusion is that whatever looks right to you - works. I guess we need a similar organization for the gaming industry to set standards as nobody seems to be able to agree on what is 28mm - from the feet to the eyes, or from the feet to the top of the head; and most accessory pieces tend to be very oversized.
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You are right, it did sound like I was saying that HO was 1/72. What I actually said was that the Airfix soldiers sold as HO/OO were 1/72. The confusion arises because HO and OO are exactly the same gauge of track, but the scale of the train models that use each are quite different. I think Airfix thought that because the gauges were the same, the scales were near enough not to matter (or they didn't care).
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No problem Plynkes. All this scale business can really make one quite dizzy. lol
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Actually, Plynkes, Airfix figures sold as HO were 1/76, a ridiculous scale that ruined a lot of potential as too many plastic armor kits were made, but they are too small to go with the hordes of 1/72 figures.
(look at the old Airfix plastics , they are incompatable with true 1/72 figs).
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Smokeys right, the Valiant 1/72 figures look like gianst next to Airfix .
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Actually, Plynkes, Airfix figures sold as HO were 1/76, a ridiculous scale that ruined a lot of potential as too many plastic armor kits were made, but they are too small to go with the hordes of 1/72 figures.
(look at the old Airfix plastics , they are incompatable with true 1/72 figs).
Now, now Smokey... 1/76 is perfectly good scale, it's all I use for my WWII tanks and vehicles. Plenty of manufacturers either in metal, resin or plastic. Goes well with my 20mm metal minis which as a rule are on the short side, ie. closer to 1/76 than 1/72. But then I don't use 1/72 plastic soldiers at all, with some rare exceptions (a landing craft crew or two).
Why I actually chose 1/76 tanks is that I hate the tracks on plastic kits, the older ones are rubber ones, and the newer ones are link and length thingies that you actually have to assemble. Whereas in metal and resin you get your track assemblies in one piece and nicely sagging at the right places. Plus the resin and metal selections are/were better, if you're able to order from the UK.
But I guess this topic is in danger of plunging far OT... Wayswatcher, have you had time to put some paint on the granary yet? ;D
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I am, but it is a big piece so it is taking time to get done.
And I think the topic already has gone way OT as it is, but I see this discussion all of the time lol
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Having a little trouble with the faded wood look here.....help? :?
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/FadedwoodWIP2.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/FadedwoodWIP1.jpg)
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I think You mean not "woody enough"
here:
http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article.asp?a=4083
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Doh! ;D
I have that magazine right here......Thx
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What's interesting is that this is what my uncle's barn used to look like after I painted it every other summer. I never could get the wood to absorb paint evenly. The barn was over one hundred years old, and the weathered wood just absorbed it. I think it looks pretty good.
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Wow! Have you got anything in a bigger size? ;)
That's lovely!
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Very nice stuff!
Thanks for the link to the website, good plastic buildings for better prices than ebay... 8)
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Wow! Have you got anything in a bigger size? ;)
Ehm yes, but those are actually underscale so will most likely become background models. Unless you mean 28mm figs then no, I kinda gave up on those as I have only 1 life and I prefer 20mm. I did order some 28mm figs though for survivors in Modhails zombie games, but that is still a secret, and I have no idea if I can actually paint those up as good as my 20mm stuff.
Anyway, back to the painting table......and beyond!
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(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/FadedwoodWIP3.jpg)
First test, takes quite a bit of time this. Everything in the lower quarter of the screen is as it was before, everything above that is with additional weathering. Maybe I need to up the contrast in paints a little, or thin them less. (paints used are a light grey, a medium grey and Badab Black, all thinned). The tutorial in the magazine is very helpful but won't work for this unless I strip it down again and use a wirebrush to score the plastic...and that ain't going to happen lol
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looks good
You could try some runoff stains, and a bit of green at the very outer edges of the boards for this green growth that builds on wet surfaces - just to break up the pattern and the colour a bit
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I will, first the basic weathering of the wood though....was painting till midnight last night just to get one side done, and it is still not finished on that side....this thing is enormous compared to my usual kits lol
As soon as that is done I'll do the wet spots, the faded lettering or symbol, the mould and whatever I can think of. In between steps I'll do doors and rust to prevent myself from going bananas due to no variation in the work.
Still, quite a few evenings work in this one before it is done.
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I shall sit in Your chair when I do my railway facilities in a few months ;)
keep up the good work :)
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(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/Weatheredwoodwip.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/doordetail.jpg)
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That looks rather spiffing :-* :-* :-*
cheers
James
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oh vary nice :o
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That's fantastic :D :D :D
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Oo-err, missus! That's very nice, love the subtle fading of white. It's really screaming some uplifting & motivational propaganda wall art/slogan , wouldn't you say? Suitably faded, of course...
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Thats looking very nice :-* :-*
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(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j17/wayswatcher/20mm%20Moderns/The%20Factory/WIPWeathering.jpg)
Not finished yet, needs some more work before I start on the next side.
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excellent!!
really nice to watch the decay from picture to picture :-*
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Looks like its getting there - the weathering is coming along nicely.
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Veeeery nice!