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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Hammers on 13 January 2010, 07:10:18 PM
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What is the significance of the pompom in the Coldstream Guards bearskin hat? Some seem to have white, others red and some none at all. In same images they are worn on the left side, in others to the right. Does it have something to do with companies?
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The Coldsteam Guards plumes, are to my knowledge, always red. However the other guards regiments, not so much. I present you with the Woodlands Junior School website. Enjoy!
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/CUSTOMS/questions/royal/footguard.htm
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Ah, silly me! I thought the guard regiments had different uniforms! Do laugh at me and my foreign ways!
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Ah, silly me! I thought the guard regiments had different uniforms! Do laugh at me and my foreign ways!
lol
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Ah, silly me! I thought the guard regiments had different uniforms! Do laugh at me and my foreign ways!
My friend I was not laughing at you! I knew about the different plume colours but I couldn't remember which regiment's plume was which.
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well, apart from different badges, plume colours and position, there is also the issue of the button numbers and arrangement, which in a way could be seen as "different uniform" detail.
While in some household formations uniforms used to be very different, I would assume that the general issue is that guards should be instantly and uniformly recognizable by outsiders as what they are (as opposed to regular troops), whereas only insiders would note the slight differences (that also accounts for enemy intelligence issues in combat).
And this is basically the modern approach, modified by tradition and lineage of the household formation.
During the times of colorful uniforms, rivalry between units was far more publicly discussed, aknowledged and displayed, whereas nowadays military forces are to be seen as the serving part of a nation and not the toy soldiers of some nobs.
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Try this:
http://www.shinycapstar.com/footguardsinfo.htm
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My friend I was not laughing at you! I knew about the different plume colours but I couldn't remember which regiment's plume was which.
I am not really suggesting that you were. :) Thanks for the info.
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Well, well, where ever you turn there is some science behind it...
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Well, well, where ever you turn there is some science behind it...
Interesting point - We had something like that in the thread with the natural disasters...
I would always argument that science only provides a verifyable model to explain things, not the truth behind it.
One could always stick to the observable fact and simply say: that's how it is ;) :D
btw, does the Guard Infantry also have some kind of mounted squadron?
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Interesting point - We had something like that in the thread with the natural disasters...
I would always argument that science only provides a verifyable model to explain things, not the truth behind it.
One could always stick to the observable fact and simply say: that's how it is ;) :D
btw, does the Guard Infantry also have some kind of mounted squadron?
Surely you are thinking of the Horse Guards?
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I think of all the ridiculous uniforms in the history of the British Army, the Life Guards have the most ridiculous one. Except maybe the Beefeaters.
(http://www.army.mod.uk/images/central-panel/lifeweb1.jpg)
Didn't Madonna have her hair like that for a while?
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I think of all the ridiculous uniforms in the history of the British Army, the Life Guards have the most ridiculous one. Except maybe the Beefeaters.
(http://www.army.mod.uk/images/central-panel/lifeweb1.jpg)
Didn't Madonna have her hair like that for a while?
Odds are that she's worn it like this to:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/2june_2007_367.jpg/800px-2june_2007_367.jpg)
'I have a cock's ass on my head and dare you to laugh at me for it'
...and she had a skimpy nightie, stockings and pompomed slipper like these on on the ' Like a Virgin' tour.
(http://www.npjd.com/DavidPhotos/GreeceMar06/GreekGuards.jpg)
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Surely you are thinking of the Horse Guards?
not quite
I remeber watching "trooping the colours" some long time ago and there were quite a few mounted guards in Bearskins
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I think you'll find that they are the mounted officers of the foot guards
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sounds reasonable
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There are two mounted Guards regiments' the Life Guards in red and the Blues and Royal Horse Guards in, well, blue. Like the Foot Guards, they wear a similar uniform to that worn from the mid-19th Century, take at the British in the Crimea. Many British regiments still have a similar red full dress uniform or similar from that era.
The Yeoman of the Guard wear a similar style to that worn in Tudor times.
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What I find deeply weird and disorientating about this thread, is that I know Woodlands Junior School in Tonbridge, Kent. It's not all that far from where I live, and I've done a few gigs there for parent/teacher association events.
Let me just say that the supreme peculiarity of someone in Ontario communicating with someone in Sweden, pointing them to detailed information about uniforms of the British Foot Guards on the website of the very ordinary little junior school in my neighbourhood, just makes me marvel at the strangeness of our modern world.
Such are the surrealities of the internet...
(Quite why the very ordinary little junior school's website has all this info about the Brigade of Guards on its website is something I shall not even think about... Some kind of school project presumably).
Weird.
::)
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btw, does the Guard Infantry also have some kind of mounted squadron?
There were ad-hoc mounted infantry units raised for the Zulu War and camel corps in the Sudan, including one raised from the Foot Guards but they were never a permanent unit in the British Army. I believe there were mounted Grenadier units in the 18thC, but whether the Guards had one is beyond me. They didn't last long, being converted to normal cavalry units, if I recall correctly :(
Today the Household Cavalry perform all the Guards' mounted duties.