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Title: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dewbakuk on 04 February 2010, 11:38:55 PM
Finally got around to building the second Steamspider (yes I know it only has 6 legs). As I'm actually doing the Wild West Mad Science force at last I'll be making some of the constructions that have been on hold.

This build was far easier than the first was as I already knew what I was doing. Gone for twin gatlings on this one rather than the electro-gun and put a proper boiler on the back. The white disks on the back will be painted as guages.

I've already been through how it was built last time but actually took some photo's of it unpainted this time :)
Of course, any questions, please ask.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4331345790_74ed290fcf.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2745/4330613769_8539759762.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2689/4331348444_e7feb71092.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/4330616095_67bd5d0fff.jpg)
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Bullshott on 04 February 2010, 11:47:26 PM
Nice work Dean
I'm looking forward to seeing your force at this month's game.
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 05 February 2010, 12:16:27 AM
Weeeee, I like them  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dr. The Viking on 05 February 2010, 08:15:21 AM
OMG!!!!111!!!ONE!!!! That is FAT!!!


It's soooo f*cking lovely too! I've got a defiler in the basement with nothing to do... I think I'll give this a try.
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Malamute on 05 February 2010, 08:29:18 AM
Nice work Dean
I'm looking forward to seeing your force at this month's game.


Seconded, awesome stuff. ;D
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Thunderchicken on 05 February 2010, 09:15:25 AM
These spiders are cracking stuff. It will be an honour to serve along side them.
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 05 February 2010, 09:18:33 AM
These spiders are cracking stuff. It will be an honour to serve along side them.

It'll be an even bigger honour to blast them to pieces  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Sinewgrab on 05 February 2010, 10:48:48 AM
Dewbakuk, my LAF-Fu has deserted me - I can't find where or when you explained how you made it? Can you remember what the topic was? I am really interested in how you did that.
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dewbakuk on 05 February 2010, 12:12:26 PM
I'm failing too, I'm sure it was just called steamspider. Oh well, I shall do a proper write up then. It'll have to wait until I'm somewhere with a comp though. I can only type so well on an iPhone :)
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Trencher on 05 February 2010, 02:43:51 PM
These are nice!  o_o o_o o_o
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Little Pete on 05 February 2010, 03:46:10 PM
Great stuff! I'd also love to see a writeup.

I went for the easy option of buying a spider tank from Ramshackle games but this would go alongside it so well!
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dewbakuk on 05 February 2010, 03:51:54 PM
They do. I have a Ramshackle Spider as their big brother version. I made the first one before that came out though.
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: gamer Mac on 05 February 2010, 04:47:12 PM
They are great :-* :-* :-*
Can't find the old write up either, so what have you used for the window?
What nation are they for?
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dr DeAth on 05 February 2010, 05:01:07 PM
Very nice. Where did you get the multifaceted orange bit from? I've a vehicle in mind that could use something just like it. :)
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Rob_bresnen on 05 February 2010, 05:11:31 PM
That's just great! I'm looking forward to seeing a tutorial :o
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Grimmnar on 05 February 2010, 11:40:00 PM
I'm failing too, I'm sure it was just called steamspider. Oh well, I shall do a proper write up then. It'll have to wait until I'm somewhere with a comp though. I can only type so well on an iPhone :)

Hey Dewbakuk,

Well my Search-Fu is failing as well. I cant find your original posting. I looked for "steamspider" and had no luck but this thread. I found your pics on Flickr. I found articles on some Steampunk sites and Tabletopgames forums. I recall the original posting but don't remember where i saw it. 

I have asked the prof about adding a search feature to pick a member and see all his/her posts without anything in the "search" feature.

Now with that aside, i and loving this every much as i did the first one. Knowing what you used for the body, the pics make the spider look huge but the body makes it in reality be so small. Nice work as always.  :-)

Da other Grimm
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 06 February 2010, 12:53:05 AM
Was the topic perhaps started in the LAF before this one? Maybe all the database wasn't brought over?
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dewbakuk on 08 February 2010, 09:39:25 AM
Hello all, sorry for the delay in posting this but I’ve only just got access to the internet. Currently on a family holiday in Austria, I never thought it’d be this difficult to get online.

I’m actually typing this on my wife’s netbook in the hotel room, then I shall transfer it to my iPhone and plug that into a connected computer and then finally ‘copy and paste’ it onto the forum. A few years ago that would seem fine but not having access to a full wireless system just seems alien to me now  ::)

Anyway, to tell you what you want to know;

Components
Games Workshop Defiler kit
Extra Defiler leg sprue
2x old GW ‘bolt shell’ paint pots (the ones that dried up before you even opened them)
Conflix/Urban Mammoth ‘Chemical Works’ boiler sprue
Tiny bit of thin plasticard
Dressmaker’s pins
Disney Atlantis toy projector thing bubble
Tank hatch and rungs

Tools
Scalpel
Razor Saw
Pinvice with .08mm drill bit

Method
Really simple one this, first cut all the spikes off the Defiler legs and carefully carve the Chaos stars off the knee joints. You can use clippers to remove the stars but I found it was quicker and easier to use a fresh scalpel blade. Just don’t take a chunk out of your thumb  ;). Then glue the legs together. Glue the Defiler body halves together and throw the rest of the kit aside. You need six legs for the build but only get 4 in the kit, however I’ve had a quick look and there are people selling the leg sprue separately. You get 4 legs to a sprue though which is part of the reason I got enough bits to make two of them ;).

Throw the lids from the paint pots aside and using a razor saw cut the thread end of the pots off. Now cut down the first pot using the embossed writing as a guide, you want to just skim the edge of the text and stop cutting at the bottom of the text. This needs to be fairly precise so I did it as three separate cuts, two vertically down the text and one horizontally across the bottom of the text. This will leave you with a pot with a rectangle cut out of the side. The second one is easier and the first can probably be turned into this one if you cut too far, hence doing the other first. For the second pot you again want to use the sides of the text as a guide but this time rather than stopping at the bottom of the text, just cut all the way down the pot so that the side is totally missing. Scrape the text on the bottom of the second pot away and remove the little tab thing from the bottom of both pots. Glue the pots together ‘top to top’.

On the front of the defiler body are two squares that stick out, they got in the way of both versions weapons so I cut them off to make the front a flush line between the forward leg joints. Place the pots on top of the body so that the first pot sits snug against the front. As it’s not cut all the way through it still has a complete hexagon at the front which overhangs slightly. The pots won’t sit very well but you’ll now be able to clearly see which knobbly bits on the defiler body need cutting so that the pots sit over it correctly.

Now you have a choice with regards to the engine block, on the first version I kept the engine and cut some more of the second pots bottom away so that it sat over the end. On the second version I wanted a boiler so I cut most of the engine block away so that it would fit. I used two of the small circular boiler tops from the chemical works kit. They aren’t designed to fit together but by rotating one very slightly the riveted parts alternate fine and they can be glued. One side will need the pipe connecter cut off so that it fits snug against the bottom of the paint pot, the other side can of course have a pipe added. I also added small disks of plasticard to cover the other connector holes which will be painted as gauges. If you go with the boiler method then you will most probably cut through the upper defiler body when removing the engine block. The resulting hole into the hollow can be covered by a small square of thin plasticard.

Once decisions have been made and the pots fit correctly, glue them down  :D
After the glue has set I’d recommend adding any rivets to the body now. I didn’t and struggled  >:(. For my rivets I used the pinvice to drill shallow holes which I then inserted cut down pins into so their rounded heads sat flush on the body.

Now glue the legs into place, the front legs will be a little loose until the glue sets so make sure it’s done somewhere where it won’t get knocked.

Now add the tank hatch and rungs to climb up. I used some from an old Leman Russ kit as the size is a good fit.

The dome on the front is the bit where people are likely to have trouble. Not with fitting it, it’s almost perfect and just needs squeezing in slightly and gluing. The problem will be in sourcing it. There was a Disney Atlantis toy of the big submarine that was a projector. The submarine wobbled about while the base made noises and projected an image of the robot leviathan on the wall. I’ve seen it used in a few conversions but the gem for me was the ‘observation bubble’ on the front. It’s made of soft plastic but it takes primer fine. I removed the bubble and cut it in half which gave me the two domes for the walkers.

Then add weapon of choice beneath the front dome. Prime and paint. Play with new toy.
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dewbakuk on 08 February 2010, 09:45:33 AM
Gamer Mac - These walkers are part of my 'Collegium of New Science' force. Essentially a Mad Scientists collective based in Wild West California. I thought I'd go slightly off kilter by having a Mad Scientist force that isn't 'evil'.

Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Rob_bresnen on 08 February 2010, 11:04:12 PM
fair play to anyone who will post such a long and complicated posting while on holiday! That is dedication!
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Onebigriver on 09 February 2010, 02:59:34 PM
That is great stuff! For anyone who doesn't have a Defiler to cannibalise, Ramshackle Games sells legs for the Huntsman, £4 for 4!

http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=140
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dewbakuk on 16 February 2010, 11:21:13 AM
fair play to anyone who will post such a long and complicated posting while on holiday! That is dedication!

I did say I was going to get it posted, just didn't get time before the flight :D


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That is great stuff! For anyone who doesn't have a Defiler to cannibalise, Ramshackle Games sells legs for the Huntsman, £4 for 4!

Thanks. One point however would be that the Ramshackle spider legs are vastly larger than the Defiler ones.



No more comments? I assumed I'd return to plenty after the calls for a walkthrough  :P
Clearly my walkthrough was so good no one needs to ask questions!
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: chantyam on 16 February 2010, 12:32:50 PM
Dew I remember you posted this on TMP as well that was a bit before I lucked around here  :D but I think you had the how too and I remember before the 1/2 half lunch was finished I had the print outs and was the owner of a derailer with extra two legs !!!!!!!!!! thanks to e-bay this place just costs me money lol
Title: Re: Steamspider Mk2
Post by: Dewbakuk on 16 February 2010, 12:35:00 PM
Goodo, be nice to see some more making their way in the world :)