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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Fjodin on February 15, 2010, 09:22:22 PM
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I have 1 small problem... I cant find what colour was russian uniform in Russo-Japanese war? Un some pics its green, and on other white! Can someone help me?
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Perhaps these pictures will help you.
Russian army 1904-1905 гг.
Казак терских и кубанских казачьих полков Сводной Кавказской казачьей дивизии.
Казак полков Забайкальского, Амурского и Уссурийский казачьих полков.
Хорунжий 5-го Сибирского казачьего полка.
Сотник 2-го Верхнеудинского полка Забайкальского казачьего войска барон В.Ф. фон Эксе - командир 1-й сотни полка, состоявшей из "охотников"-разведчиков
(http://photos.streamphoto.ru/6/3/d/07daa6ec8e312f04049820bf0aa16d36.jpg)
Russian army 1904-1905 гг.
Рядовой 21-й роты Заамурского округа пограничной стражы.
Матрос эскадренного броненосца "Ретвизан" (в летней рабочей форме одежды).
Лейтенант флота, Порт-Артур.
Матрос эскадренного броненосца "Победа" (в десантной форме одежды)
(http://photos.streamphoto.ru/c/4/f/36060cb0c9b788adb0676c5cb0423f4c.jpg)
Russian army 1904-1905 гг.
Канонир Квантунской крепостной артиллерии, Порт-Артур.
Офицер сибирских стрелков (в бекеше).
Прапорщик Приморского драгунского полка.
Рядовой 139-го пехотного Моршанского плока
(http://photos.streamphoto.ru/d/1/9/f000fe78c641b2bd19948fa219e8691d.jpg)
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The Osprey says (for Infantry): dark green winter-uniform (trousers, shirts,caps) usually worn under greatcoat. I the summertime dark green trousers and caps with white shirts. The white shirts were usually dyed khaki when worn in the field. They had white cloth covers for the caps, also dyed khaki.
Hope that helps
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Nice pics Nimrod!!
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Maybe they really worn white coats in summer. Here is some pics
Russian infantry in white coats (http://www.beau-geste.com/Whatscoming/images/Russian.jpg)
Russians defending their positions (whites)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/Mukden_Japanese_Assault_French_Papier.jpg)
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I remember that in book Port Arthur russians put dirt on their white clothing to make it more camouflage.
Thanx for helping! By the way does anyone seen pics of PAINTED 28/15mm russo-japanese infantr?
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There are a few shots of my 15mm RJW here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/whisperin.al/RussoJapaneseWar#
Mostly Old Glory figures, with a few extras from Peter Pig.
I've painted some Russians units in all green, some with white shirts/caps and some with khaki shirts/caps, to help differentiate the units. The artillery crews are all in white shirts/caps, based on a comment I read somewhere that they did not die them.
Similarly my Japanese are in a mixture of blue and khaki uniforms, again to help differentiate the units.
Pete
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Thanx for sharing. I've allready started to paint russians. Actually there are only 2 figures from my previous Irregular Miniatures order. Irregulars have good russo-japanese war russians, but they are only in standing pose. So I think of uning Old Glory for my main russian force and use these 2 Irregular Figures as bodyguards or whatether. By the way can you tell me what size are 15mm Old Glory Russians? I know that this question may sound funny, but 15mm figures from different manufacturers may have 2mm difference in size.
By the way does Old Glory and Irregular only manufacturers of 15mm Russo-Japanese War (The problem with Old Glory is that they sell their infantry in 50 figures bag, but I dont need sow many figures :) )
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Yes the Russian uniforms for the Asian & far east Siberian campaigns were dark green tunics with dark green pants. The over coats would have been dark green or dark grey. Summer uniforms The tunic was white with the shoulder boards & collar being the color for the branch of service. Line, rifles, Artillery. Most of the pictures here appear to be Cossaks & not regulars. They did not very much from the uniforms from the Boxer rebellion, so you could use that for your resourses too.
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Nice pics Nimrod!!
Yes indeed!
Have you got any more?
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Though at the moment I cannot find any un-based ones to measure properly, I'd say the Old Glory figures are pretty much 15mm foot to eye, 17mm foot to top of head. I mix a few a few Peter Pig WWI/RCW figures in with them and though the sculpting style is very different, height wise they seem to match OK.
The large Old Glory bags are indeed a bit of a pain and, somewhere, I have tons that I have not finished painting, but the figures do look good en masse. My only real complaint is that of course the Russian figures have no bayonets!
Pete
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Courtesy of Osprey and Google Books:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Russo1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Russo2.jpg)
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I like this car :)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_303Dv_Vkry0/R6247V6VyrI/AAAAAAAAAkM/I5IUVsIyBIM/mukden1.JPG)
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By the way, does someon eknow is there are amy manufacturers who produce 15mm rusians from Russo Trurkish War of 1877? I cant find any, so I use 1904 russians (russo-japanese).
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Funny, Rank and File came up in our Crimean discussion just today, after me not even thinking about them for over ten years. But anyway, Rank & File, available from Old Glory 15s:
http://oldglory15s.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=483_485_501&sort=3a (http://oldglory15s.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=483_485_501&sort=3a)
Unfortunately you have to buy them in bags of a million at a time.
(That is probably an exaggeration, if not exactly an outright lie.)
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I will contribute an image in this topic:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/89862981/Hulton-Archive
russian red cross unit in skis!!!!transportation of casualties on skis and sledge.
more images can be obtained by using site's search facility (I got some)
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&p=russo%20japanese%20war
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The car is, IIRC, from Peter Pig's WWI/RCW range and was inspired by a picture I found online somewhere.
As for 15mm Russo-Turkish, I use Lancashire Games or at least I will do when I eventually get round to painting them!
http://www.lancashiregames.com/
Pete
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Thanx for pics!
2 Lenin can you make some photos of these figures (even unpainted) please?
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Wow! I thought I love russian uniform of Russo-Turkish War, but now I love their uniforms of Russo-Japanese War. Its very unique and have pretty colours (white top and green bottom). So I think my 15mm vsf russians will be from russo-japanese war (its vsf. who cares :) ).
By the way. I was searching the net and I CANT find any sit3es with detailed info about russian uniforms. Why russians have green shoulder straps on one pics and red on other. Why I saw green furage hat on 1 pic. What colour was russian artillery crew. What colours was ensigns of regiments in russo japanese war. To bad that this war is not very popular :(
(http://www.topfoto.co.uk/FotoWeb/FWbin/preview.dll/0853073.jpg?D=2A24F6DC2E3757844BEFFECCD87C8CB79A4B5498388EE01D8B9E99B205B6C1E26E6B091F6A95B912866AA3B696DB54EA45CB4A269D8551C3F3BCEA27343CA52ED1A711C1B36BD91345C7513E96884398BBCA92E2272F589E85F4BDCF4D4E4239A8AB6C8F2C012AD4C36277793CB4BDC65ADEA65AFD844B47834A365594F8B4AFFA0DD1ACBACB6AD6A2EBBDAF15C627213AA33A2F7E45A2806D1EA0E8FF88FF998595D0AB37323E16) (http://www.topfoto.co.uk/FotoWeb/FWbin/preview.dll/0853076.jpg?D=2A24F6DC2E3757844BEFFECCD87C8CB79A4B5498388EE01DB4E35D4983735C1E71F2EA03C1582BFB866AA3B696DB54EA45CB4A269D8551C3F3BCEA27343CA52ED1A711C1B36BD913183F220C22C6ADF3BBCA92E2272F589E85F4BDCF4D4E4239A8AB6C8F2C012AD4C36277793CB4BDC65ADEA65AFD844B47834A365594F8B4AF1E1C3C4FCE0FB818A2EBBDAF15C627213AA33A2F7E45A2806D1EA0E8FF88FF998595D0AB37323E16)
And what the heck is this? http://www.topfoto.co.uk/fotoweb/Preview.fwx?position=1&archiveType=ImageFolder&sorting=ModifiedTimeAsc&search=0853079&fileId=37D47650838CC38D45944787427ED43BAA16554EB127886169738530E44ED174DB5D9909674395AB80EEC1F06AFB00849DD97342B0B216B246C078915C16385974CEB49CFE4358B51D3147C0121D80973461DB24EF30CEB8619995D59757607A9F1C2DA72D5535889565E37239A6F93E
South Africa. 31st July 1904. Russo-Japanese War. A bloody fight between French and Japanese soldiers
(http://www.topfoto.co.uk/FotoWeb/FWbin/preview.dll/0853079.jpg?D=2A24F6DC2E3757844BEFFECCD87C8CB79A4B5498388EE01DB4E35D4983735C1E71F2EA03C1582BFB866AA3B696DB54EA45CB4A269D8551C3F3BCEA27343CA52ED1A711C1B36BD91345C7513E96884398BBCA92E2272F589E85F4BDCF4D4E4239A8AB6C8F2C012AD4C36277793CB4BDC65ADEA65AFD844B47834A365594F8B4AFD62E49D13D6853BCA2EBBDAF15C627213AA33A2F7E45A2806D1EA0E8FF88FF998595D0AB37323E16)
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I know that during the Boxer Rebellion the line regiments had yellow shoulder boards & collars & rifles red. I don't know about the green ones. This was supposed to be standard for Siberian & far east units. The Blue shoulder boards & collars were worn in the near east central asian campaigns. And I am not sure what the artillery used.
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Why russians have green shoulder straps on one pics and red on other. Why I saw green furage hat on 1 pic. What colour was russian artillery crew.
The hat is easily explained as it is actually green, however troops were issued with a white cover to put over it during summer. I've seen pics where they clearly haven't and have green hats, white tunics and green trousers. Looks great so that's how I'll paint mine when I get around to it.
I can only think of one pic showing artillery crew and that's the Osprey one shown further back, hang on...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Russo1.jpg)
As you can see, they're also in green/white/green. (they're in the background).
As to the shoulder boards, I think that was to show company type/army/origin. I don't have the books with me to check though.
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Gentlemans, does this photo looks familiar to you? :) :) (aompare it with Osprey pic)
(http://www.artglass.hu/pictures/pic/russo_army_4.jpg)