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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: moif on 17 February 2010, 07:13:52 PM
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Copplestone are releasing several new armoured cars suitable for RCW and BOB games.
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/latest.php
(http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/k53mgebrovsingleturret.jpg)
K53 Mgebrov-Renaud Single-Turret
(http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/k54mgebrovtwinturret.jpg)
K53 Mgebrov-Renaud Double-Turret
(http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/k52lancia1ZM.jpg)
K52 Lancia 1ZM
(http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/putilovgarford.jpg)
Putilov-Garford Heavy Armoured Car
Personally I am very interested in the Putilov-Garford.
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That first one looks like the race car of the armored car world.
I'm glad to see that he's doing these BoB vehicles, because it suggests continued interest in the theme. I hope he comes out with some new minis for it.
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Man, those are sweet! The prices seem to be stiff, but not at all unreasonable, given they look rather nice sizewise, and the level of detail... rivetting, I say!
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Do the tires on the Lancia have treads? They look oddly smooth?
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To be fair, we're doing a Putilov-Garford, too.
-Doc
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I'll be in for all of them, apart from the Lancia (which I've got). The proper sizing is excellent as wll mine are smaller scale than this.
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To be fair, we're doing a Putilov-Garford, too.
-Doc
Faster, Tobi! Faster!
;)
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Heh:)
Yes, very bad timing on our part. I'm usually pretty good at spotting these things, or getting information about them, so as not to replicate other endeavours, however... We might move on to something else in the interim. Will let you know when I know something.
The Copplestone piece is certainly nice:)
-Doc
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The Putilov-Garford Heavy Armoured Car is pure heavy metal. :o
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I love the Putilov-Garford. I might have to get back to painting more BoB stuff ;)
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Sorry Doc, looks like you've been beaten to the punch. Exact your revenge by producing some cavalry for the 1670s, like we were promised by Mark almost a year ago. ;)
Thos armoured cars are very nice. Still it will be at least June or July before I invest in them so if Tobi's one comes out at a reaonable price point in the interim, who knows?
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Or, Doc, you could exact your revenge by releasing a less expensive version of it, or even just a version that's more easily available here in the USA.
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There were actually two versions of the Garford. One for the Navy, and one for the Army. The biggest difference was armor thickness. I'm sure there were other difference, by picture refs are hard to come by.
Maybe make some of the hatches able to open up for some crew. And, perhaps some enterprising sailors managed to outfit some larger naval guns on the thing.
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Doc, why not switch gears and produce a different design of gun car for another manufacturer's RCW armored train? ;) That way my White army could use their gun cars and my Reds yours. Or vice versa. Be nice to have more variability to go with that great armored locomotive.
Or if you're stuck on A/Cs, do a Russo-Balt, I don't think anyone has made one of those yet.
Anybody know how many of those Mgebrov-Renault Armored cars were produced, of either version?
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I read somewhere that they actually did convert a few Austin Garfords to run on rails, and essentially be an armored train/rail car.
Slap some alternate rail wheels on Tobi's model, and add a few gun alternatives, you'll have a great little kit!
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Odd..but I can't find Putilov-Garford on Copplestone site, only Mgebrov cars.
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(http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/putilovgarford.jpg)
Putilov-Garford Heavy Armoured Car
A Nerdgasm on Wheels :o
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My, this really seems to turn into the Year of Niche Armoured Car. Tobsen, Company B and now Copplestone. Is this a coincidence?
I already have 6 unpainted ACs waiting so I am in no hurry to get any of these new ones, although lovely, but I am very keen for the rest of you to so I can see them painted and used in wonderful battle reports. :)
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Odd..but I can't find Putilov-Garford on Copplestone site, only Mgebrov cars.
Its not out for sale yet. Its mentioned in the e mail Copplestone put out as forth coming.
Doc.
Have you ever considered making a Fowler land train?
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Heh:)
Yes, very bad timing on our part. I'm usually pretty good at spotting these things, or getting information about them, so as not to replicate other endeavours, however... We might move on to something else in the interim. Will let you know when I know something.
The Copplestone piece is certainly nice:)
-Doc
it would seem ashame not to release it after Tobi puting so much effort into it, judging by the pricing on your other releases you will be pretty competitive and if you include some variants with wheel options etc it should still be a good seller.
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Anybody know how many of those Mgebrov-Renault Armored cars were produced, of either version?
I don't know the precise answer to that but no more than a handful, I suspect maybe 1 or 2 of each. Mbregov was also responsible for building designs on White and Isotta Fraschini chassis, a lot of production in this time frame were one offs on available truck or tourer car chassis.
The various Austin models were by far the most numerous armoured cars, after that the Garfords, Fiat Izorskhis, Jeffrey Poplavkos. Beyond that you are looking at around 10 each of the Ruso-Balts, Filiatovs etc. There were a few Lanchesters left behind by Locker-Lampson, some of which were converted to mount a 37mm gun.
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If you wanted a new type to look at, I'd second the suggestion for a Russo-Balt or a Fiat-Izhorski. Currently nobody makes a MkB tank and there were a couple with the Allies at Archangel that were later transferred to the Whites. Interesting vehicle and pretty easy to model.
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Or a Pierce- Arrow :-)
http://www.kpunet.net/~lmertz/armored_cars.html#1
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Very nice looking models - but strange that armoured cars are suddenly so in vogue, about 5 years after BoB broke as a new period / genre. I guess 'VBCW' may have something to do with it but not convinced that's what's behind the current rash of armoured cars. Maybe it's just the very quaint eccentricity of most of them that appeals.
What I'd really like to know is why Copplestone's miniature output has dropped to almost zero in the past year. Including, as Carlos says, the non-appearance of the promised second half of the Glory of the Sun range, the first dozen or so packs of which were released last March. Since then - a couple of KKBB packs, one or two re-released DA packs, and a couple more GoS packs. And apart from the various resin armoured vehicles, room sets and Japanese kits, that's about it. Hardly any new Copplestone minis.
Basically he seems to have pretty much stopped.
Which is weird, given how prolific he was before.
Bored? Tired? Unwell? Resting? Lost his mojo? Doesn't need the money?
Would be interesting to know, and what his future plans are, if any...
He's still (IMHO) the best there is.
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I don't know the answer Captain, but I had heard that Mr. Copplestone has a "day job" now. Maybe work and life just keep getting in his way?
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Anybody know how many of those Mgebrov-Renault Armored cars were produced, of either version?
16 according to this source: http://wio.ru/tank/ww1ba.htm
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16 according to this source: http://wio.ru/tank/ww1ba.htm
Thanks, Schogun, that completely answers my question, as well as all the follow ups! Great link. :)
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These are great, but a bit rich for the budget. Does anyone have any sources for 1914-20's armour, both cars and tanks, that fit the 28mm scale but are less costly?
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These are great, but a bit rich for the budget. Does anyone have any sources for 1914-20's armour, both cars and tanks, that fit the 28mm scale but are less costly?
$25-$35 is the going range of prices for 28mm armored vehicles.
If you're a member of the Old Glory Army however, you get 40% off the price of their vehicles.
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A Putilov-Garford? Oooo... :-*
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I ordeed ne of Copplestnes Mgebev-Renault's (with twn turrets). Received almost the next day! Very nice.If I could work out how to upload a photo I would do so but being a luddite......
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Right click on the pic and then 'save as' - browse to wherever you want it saving. Should work unless right click is disabled which is a dastardly trick to do!
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These are great, but a bit rich for the budget. Does anyone have any sources for 1914-20's armour, both cars and tanks, that fit the 28mm scale but are less costly?
We have a few, with a growing range of more, and we're based in California. We currently carry the German Ehrhardt (WW1-1920s), and the Spanish Euzkadi (SCW). The Austro-Hungarian Romfell (WW1) will be added next week; the Russian Filatov (WW1-1920s) will be available shortly as well. DaVinci Tank Seems to have been lost in the mail but is planned for release when and if it arrives. We also have a Putilov Garford (WW1-1920s) under construction and a Ford 3 Ton (WW1-1920s) in the planning stages.
blackarmyproductions.com
-Doc
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We also have a Putilov Garford (WW1-1920s) under construction and a Ford 3 Ton (WW1-1920s) in the planning stages.
blackarmyproductions.com
-Doc
A Ford 3 Ton? Like this:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10073.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10073.0)?
:o
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I have just completed one of Copplestone's new Mgebrev-Renault a/c. here it is lurking on the right with a Sloppy Jallopy Austin and supporting infantry
(http://)(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz259/cash1204_photos/Russian%20Civil%20War/rcw049.jpg)
Some other pics posted as well showing some of my RCW colection
(http://)(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz259/cash1204_photos/Russian%20Civil%20War/rcw020.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz259/cash1204_photos/Russian%20Civil%20War/rcw041.jpg)