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Title: The Red Baron
Post by: thebinmann on February 18, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
Hi

Has anyone seen this film?

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/10673898/Red-Baron/Product.html

Is it worth buying?

tyhanks
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Plynkes on February 18, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
Yes I have.


No it isn't. Buy some lottery scratchcards with the money instead. They will be more entertaining.
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: thebinmann on February 18, 2010, 08:15:25 PM
Yes I have.


No it isn't. Buy some lottery scratchcards with the money instead. They will be more entertaining.

Thans for the advice, If I win big I'll get you the sequal!
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Phil Robinson on February 18, 2010, 08:27:25 PM
Yes I have.


No it isn't. Buy some lottery scratchcards with the money instead. They will be more entertaining.

 lol lol Another one to cross off my list then, Passchendaele seems to be another I should avoid?
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Plynkes on February 18, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
A lot of people don't like it because they muck with his character and make up some kind of fairy story about him being a pacifist trying to stop the war, who regularly lands his plane in No-Man's-Land for cosy, chummy chats with his best pal Roy Brown.

Personally, I wouldn't care how they messed with history if it made for an entertaining film. But the crazy thing is, instead they made the most turgid, boring, flat piece of poo imaginable. The real story is much more interesting. You just don't care about any of them, all you want is for the film to end. It is so boring.

The flying sequences are the best I have seen in any film, but they are so short it is not worth suffering through the rest of it for them. Find them on Youtube, instead.

For all its faults, Flyboys is a much better film. It at least fulfils the minimum requirements for a film: It entertains.
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Hammers on February 18, 2010, 09:35:15 PM

The flying sequences are the best I have seen in any film, but they are so short it is not worth suffering through the rest of it for them.

I got the blueray (cheap) for the flying sequences alone and thought it was well worth it. The rest is, well, should be, insulting to any person of average intelligence.
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Ignatieff on February 19, 2010, 09:09:04 PM
More with Hammers on this one.  If you forget the reality (and when has this EVER got in the way of Hollywood), then its worth watching.  But.  The plot is turgid and predicatable and the CGI overdone.  Worth a few hours out your life however...
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Bugsda on February 20, 2010, 01:21:47 PM
It has rotary engines that don't rotate and  rocker arms that don't rock, but that may be a nit-pick too far  lol
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Ignatieff on February 20, 2010, 01:56:11 PM
It has rotary engines that don't rotate and  rocker arms that don't rock, but that may be a nit-pick too far  lol
Impressive.  Does your anorak hurt pulled that tight?
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Bugsda on February 20, 2010, 02:24:19 PM
With the chronic pain from my tightly clenched buttocks I never seem to notice  lol
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: traveller on February 20, 2010, 02:41:26 PM
I went through a WW1 craze some time ago and I think the following are worth watching:

-Red Baron
-Flyboys
-Blue Max
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Ignatieff on February 20, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
With the chronic pain from my tightly clenched buttocks I never seem to notice  lol

Just checked out your homepage - absolutely superb painting fella!  Respect!!!
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Bugsda on February 20, 2010, 06:42:30 PM
Just checked out your homepage - absolutely superb painting fella!  Respect!!!

Thanks, it's all about colour choice, paint consistency and a tight anorak.  ;)
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Fjodin on February 20, 2010, 10:34:39 PM
I dont own the movie but here iare the battle scenes I found on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kHPmxtV67U&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OqZoLMGgpY&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JjSTQfU9q0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: thebinmann on February 20, 2010, 10:51:57 PM
cool
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 21, 2010, 09:13:33 AM
If you forget the reality (and when has this EVER got in the way of Hollywood),

This was a German production... in which I would have thought that they would have been more likely to get it right.

To bad they got it so wrong...

Though I must say, those combat scenes are super!
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Ignatieff on February 21, 2010, 09:29:22 AM
This was a German production... in which I would have thought that they would have been more likely to get it right.

To bad they got it so wrong...

Though I must say, those combat scenes are super!


German yes, but trying to Hollywood.  An altogther better German production is 'The White Ribbon', up for best foreign film at the Oscars, about creepy goings on in a north German village on the eve of WWI.  But there's no gun play in that I'm afraid...
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Bugsda on February 21, 2010, 11:02:28 AM
Apparently they even got Manfred and Lothar mixed up. It was Lothar that ended up in hospital with his jaw wired up, not Manfred.

I actually get all this anorak info from my brother, he's been a bit gay for the Red Baron since he was about five. He was spitting feathers when this first came out but he's calmed down now.  lol
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: frontal assault on March 13, 2010, 04:38:09 PM
I went through a WW1 craze some time ago and I think the following are worth watching:

-Red Baron
-Flyboys
-Blue Max

The Blue Max is in my opinion the best fighter pilot film ever made, and I never get tired of watching it.  Flyboys was pretty good, but then again I'll watch anything with Jean Reno in it.  As for the Red Baron, well I've just seen the trailer on play.com, and while the flying sequences look good, I find the line "We are sportsmen, not butchers" pretty hard to stomach for a guy whose favourite method of killing was to put two rounds in his opponent's chest.
Title: Re: The Red Baron
Post by: Sidney Roundwood on March 15, 2010, 10:04:06 AM
I got a copy of "Red Baron" for Christmas 2009.  Despite all the historical inaccuracies (no-man's land in a pastoral field of ripe summer wheat? :o  The "fortress" on the Siegfried Stellung o_o), I have to confess I enjoyed it.  The flying sequences were great (if short), and I thought the trench scenes were quite well done.  I've watched it since with my wife and she enjoyed the love scenes with the lass from "Teminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles", so we were both sort of happy.

"Passendaele" is sort of from the same stable as "Red Baron".  There's a great scene at the end of a trench assault in the Flanders mud, and I really enjoyed the Canadian setting but that's about it.  There are a couple of laughable historical co-incidences, but on the whole there are worse ways to spend a couple of hours in my eyes.

Neither of them are anywhere near the same league as "Paths of Glory", "Blue Max", or watching the old BBC 1960s series "The Great War", however.