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Title: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Grimjack on March 07, 2010, 11:01:51 AM
Have researched, asked, chatted, been frustrated but, finally, have more or less commissioned some figs from a sculpter (just need to do contractual stuff, etc.) Thanks to all the advice from the Forum, we are looking at, I am assured, a two month max window until masters are done. After that, need to get some casting done when possible. Thanks especially to the companies who are helping the process by granting permission for the use of their weapons, most notably Hasslefree.

Hope to soon(ish) have minis for sale, first release is ARU (street cop uniforms) and CO19 (NOT overalls, shirts and baseball caps), plus two bareheaded characters. Look for Urban Beat Miniatures (copyright) announcements on TMP. Any suggestions for future releases or photos, etc., please get in touch via here. Small beginnings, home grown business, lots of money up front but, once I get sculpting for myself, might get a lot cheaper.  :?
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: anevilgiraffe on March 07, 2010, 11:06:24 AM
Look for Urban Beat Miniatures (copyright) announcements on TMP.

how about doing announcements here as well... TMP is not the be all and end all...
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Grimjack on March 07, 2010, 11:11:57 AM
Sorry, of course I will post piccies, news, etc. here on LAF, love this place since it was recommended to me, used to live in Duisburg in Germany, so would always want to include that pasrt of the Wargames World in anything I do. Tell you what, I'll let LAFfers see things first and then TMP. Alles klar?
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: carlos marighela on March 07, 2010, 11:19:18 AM
Best of luck with the venture, will keep a weather eye out for these.

One word of warning, inclusion of the word 'beat' is likely to make for some interesting Google searches. If it's a UK registered domain you may want to avoid using the word 'cottage' ( as in cottage industry) in your promotional blurb. On the other hand you may find yourself inundated with orders from George Michael and former Wallabies coach Alan Jones.  ;)
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Steve F on March 07, 2010, 01:58:19 PM
Best of luck with this, Grimjack.
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 07, 2010, 02:20:10 PM
Sorry, of course I will post piccies, news, etc. here on LAF, love this place since it was recommended to me, used to live in Duisburg in Germany, so would always want to include that pasrt of the Wargames World in anything I do. Tell you what, I'll let LAFfers see things first and then TMP. Alles klar?

I suggest that you give frother's the heads up too, there's a lot of zed heads over there who would be very interested in this.

Who's doing the sculpts then?
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: the commissar on March 07, 2010, 06:24:09 PM
This sounds interesting - any chance that you could put up some pictures of the type of uniforms you mean - not knowing what ARU stands for when I put that into a search I get a lot of interesting - but irrelevant - responses. (And all the CO19 types are wearing baseball caps etc!).

I'd be intereted in who is doing the sculpting as well!

Thanks
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Dewbakuk on March 07, 2010, 07:04:40 PM
Sounds like a great set of figs. I see CO19 cops fairly often as my street is used as one of the runs to the Crown Court so whenever a high profile case is on they stand around on corners while police cars and an armoured truck flys past. I've only ever seen them in baseball caps or bare headed. Are yours in the helmets shown here?

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/2190378517_796bc9f37a.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: anevilgiraffe on March 07, 2010, 08:17:17 PM
not knowing what ARU stands for when I put that into a search I get a lot of interesting - but irrelevant - responses.

I work at the first response on google lol
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 07, 2010, 08:52:22 PM
how about doing announcements here as well... TMP is not the be all and end all...

Yeah TMP is not my weapon of choice either  ::)
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: soapy on March 08, 2010, 05:43:28 AM
Glad you found someone to sculpt them for you, wish it could have been me. :'(
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Grimjack on March 08, 2010, 07:44:18 PM
This is the plan, do not want US SWAT-a-likes at the moment, plenty of those around.

(http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/1/7/8/7/2/i/4/7/5/o/Police_armed_uk.jpg)(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00913/SNN2325AN_280_913908a.jpg)(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00639/news-graphics-2007-_639514a.jpg)

Hurrah! Tech support wins! For ARU or Armed Response Unit, see left and centre. CO19, see the right but add G36c's.

What do we think?
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 08, 2010, 10:44:43 PM
Still want to know who you've got mate, as the project will succeed or fail on the quality of the putty pusher!

Also if soapy's offering you should take him up on it for a few minis!

Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Dewbakuk on March 08, 2010, 11:30:38 PM
I think it was mentioned before that Soapy was busy and couldn't do them, I could be wrong though.

So are your CO19's going to be in patrol caps? If so, is there enough difference between the figures? Might as well do the same ones with a gun change.
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 09, 2010, 09:39:25 AM
True, but we still don't know WHO is doing them?

Grimjack, you do know that Ebob does a very good sculpting service too. He's just completed a set of hazmat's for Kev over at HF that are pretty tasty. I'm sure he could turn his hand to your requests, (Kev said he's very reasonable on commissions too).

Just a thought

The Commander
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Grimjack on March 09, 2010, 09:24:27 PM
Thanks for that, Vyper. Did have an e-chat with Bob but he is pretty busy for the next two months, perhaps when he is done. However, have ordered some of his puppets and starter sets, plus some from Hasslefree (along with MP5's for the sculpts to heft), so will be having a go at my own sculpts.

Sorry if I am being a bit cagey on the scupter but would like to get the contract sorted before any announcement, was warned that you ca get 'gazumped'if you are not careful. Can say that I have seen samples of the guy's work and he is a bit of an unsung star.

These artistic types are an interesting lot,can only compare them to the authors and poets I have met, plus the few thespians I have worked with.
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Lowtardog on March 09, 2010, 10:14:47 PM
Thanks for that, Vyper. Did have an e-chat with Bob but he is pretty busy for the next two months, perhaps when he is done. However, have ordered some of his puppets and starter sets, plus some from Hasslefree (along with MP5's for the sculpts to heft), so will be having a go at my own sculpts.

Sorry if I am being a bit cagey on the scupter but would like to get the contract sorted before any announcement, was warned that you ca get 'gazumped'if you are not careful. Can say that I have seen samples of the guy's work and he is a bit of an unsung star.

These artistic types are an interesting lot,can only compare them to the authors and poets I have met, plus the few thespians I have worked with.


Sounds like it could be the chap who sculpted the Empress Moderns which are real beauties
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Grimjack on March 12, 2010, 07:18:55 PM
Right, just been on the 'phone with the sculpter and we are off!

The gentleman's name is Michael Lovejoy, one of the many freelancers who bring our miniature dreams to life.

He has a great website, works as a mini sculpter full time and has some research from me and elsewhere to get started with.

He will be sending some WIP shots as he goes along, which I shall post here as and when.

Nice guy, keeping to the design brief, can't wait until they are done.   8)

http://www.michaellovejoy.com/ - have a look!
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Lowtardog on March 12, 2010, 10:38:16 PM
Ooh I rmember this chap he posted the rage zombie on TMP ealrier this /late last year, send my regards and we wants them. Looks like you have picked a cracking sculptor
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Trooper on March 13, 2010, 12:17:08 AM
Ditto to what LTdog said. He looks like the right guy for the job. Looking forward to seeing the end result, then I can pull it apart for accuracy etc.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 13, 2010, 08:00:47 AM
Just keep him on a short rein on scale and proportions as he appears to drop off anotomically and go soft at 28mm in some of those pictures, but work cleaner at larger scales.

Don't flame me I'm just saying what I see. Would hate this to not work out after all the efffort.

The Commander
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Grimjack on March 13, 2010, 10:25:49 AM
No flaming, just that the design brief given is very clear and samples of size, propprtion, etc. are being provided from other manufacturers so that they fit in. Each WIP, by his own insistence, will be viewed and approved by me. If it all goes mammary glands vertical north, then it is down to me, not the sculpter - and that's why my nails are getting shorter and shorter!
Title: Re: Modern UK Police with Firearms - the follow up
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 13, 2010, 11:19:18 PM
No flaming, just that the design brief given is very clear and samples of size, propprtion, etc. are being provided from other manufacturers so that they fit in. Each WIP, by his own insistence, will be viewed and approved by me. If it all goes mammary glands vertical north, then it is down to me, not the sculpter - and that's why my nails are getting shorter and shorter!

Good stuff, keep a tight reign and it should be ok.