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Title: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on 31 March 2010, 08:33:28 AM: Today we have released the 28mm Abyssinian Invasion version of our Italian LMG teams. The pack contains two light machinegun teams armed with the Breda30.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/Eaglstone/EMPRESS/AB_LMG_01.jpg)

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Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 31 March 2010, 08:48:09 AM: Look's great! :)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: Boggler on 31 March 2010, 09:09:45 AM: These are really lovely figures.

Every time I look at the range I think about what I could do with them (apart from Abyssinia, of course) and come back to the Back of Beyond.

In the BoB campaign I ran at the local club I re-wrote the Dinosaur Hunter list for a player who wanted to use some FFL figures he had, so came up with the idea of a French Trans Asia expedition using Citroen Kegresse half tracks (which actually happened apart from the FFL escort)

You could easily do the same with the Italians.

It would be a good excuse to use the Empress colonial infantry anyway :D
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: carlos marighela on 31 March 2010, 09:27:41 AM: Quote from: Boggler on 31 March 2010, 09:09:45 AM
These are really lovely figures.

Every time I look at the range I think about what I could do with them (apart from Abyssinia, of course) and come back to the Back of Beyond.

In the BoB campaign I ran at the local club I re-wrote the Dinosaur Hunter list for a player who wanted to use some FFL figures he had, so came up with the idea of a French Trans Asia expedition using Citroen Kegresse half tracks (which actually happened apart from the FFL escort)

You could easily do the same with the Italians.

Read Saul Kelly's The Hunt for Zerzura for inspiration. Lost Oases, lost armies, the cast of The English Patient etc.

It would be a good excuse to use the Empress colonial infantry anyway :D
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 31 March 2010, 09:38:30 AM: Is this for the early 20th century Abyssinian invasion? I would really like to see the 1st Ethopian Invasion of the late 19th century.

I have seen a few companies do it, but not at Empress minis quality... :)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: Plynkes on 31 March 2010, 11:15:26 AM: Quote from: rob_alderman on 31 March 2010, 09:38:30 AM
Is this for the early 20th century Abyssinian invasion?

1935-36.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 31 March 2010, 11:19:54 AM: Aww man. :(

However, I could convert them, because I only want that range for VSF!!! :D
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: Plynkes on 31 March 2010, 11:37:39 AM: I really don't think it is worth the conversion.

1890s
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/back%20to%20africa/ital3.jpg)

1930s
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_31_03_10_12_27_34.jpg)

Other than the Italian underneath the clothes, they aren't really all that similar. I think you'd be better off starting from some other early colonial figures if you have conversion in mind. VSF or not, for my money that is stretching it a bit. Not to mention the fact that the concept of a light machine gun doesn't really fit in an era where MGs were hauled around on artillery carriages, even a Sci-Fi version of it. For me it would be like using WWII Tommies with Bren guns in VSF and saying they were "close enough."

But of course, each to his own. It's purely my personal opinion. :)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: M Blakey on 31 March 2010, 12:01:32 PM: really struggling to resist ;D but great set really like the chap just lying down just pointing out the enemy ozzing with charcter. likewise with every other miniature empress and Mr hicks have done very impressed once again.

salute 2010 is going to be soo expensive :'(
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: Christian on 31 March 2010, 01:45:13 PM: Quote from: Plynkes on 31 March 2010, 11:37:39 AM
Other than the Italian underneath the clothes, they aren't really all that similar.

Haha!
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: archangel1 on 31 March 2010, 03:48:57 PM: Nice figures, ladies! Not being one of my periods, however, I'd like to ask what may be a dumb question. Could you use these chaps for the early Desert War? Although I love Italian armour, I know next to nothing about the uniforms of the period.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: commissarmoody on 31 March 2010, 03:56:19 PM: Quote from: archangel1 on 31 March 2010, 03:48:57 PM
Nice figures, ladies! Not being one of my periods, however, I'd like to ask what may be a dumb question. Could you use these chaps for the early Desert War? Although I love Italian armour, I know next to nothing about the uniforms of the period.
Desert War? what is this :D
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: Plynkes on 31 March 2010, 04:05:51 PM: Quote from: archangel1 on 31 March 2010, 03:48:57 PM
Could you use these chaps for the early Desert War?

Now that is much less of a stretch than what Rob wants to do...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_31_03_10_5_03_37.jpg)

And they look as good for getting kicked out of Abyssinia as they do for conquering it in the first place, as well...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_31_03_10_5_03_08.jpg)

:)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: commissarmoody on 31 March 2010, 04:08:59 PM: Oh ok WW2 Africa
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: James Morris on 31 March 2010, 07:19:58 PM: I knew what you meant by 'Desert War'! :) I'm planning to use my 1935-6 Italians for WW2 1940-1 in East/North Africa as well at some point. The actual campaign to remove the Italians from Abyssinia looks very interesting, as the attacking forces are a fascinating mix of British, South Africans, Indians and locals.

As Plynkes has said, these guys don't work at all for Italians in Abyssinia 1885-96. However, most of the tribal Ethiopians will do (if you're willing to overlook the odd 20th century rifle). You won't find a better Ethiopian commander model than the Empress Ras. I'm working on expanding my 1930s Ethiopians backwards in time to fight the Italians in the 1890s, using some additional minis from Castaway Arts in Australia. While not quite on the same par as Paul Hicks' sculpts, they are nice, cleanly cast models which mix in well enough.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: commissarmoody on 31 March 2010, 07:45:59 PM: What other colonial italian wars would they be good for? I don't know much about Italia's colonial adventures.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: Plynkes on 31 March 2010, 08:07:49 PM: Possibly Italy's wars in Libya against the Senussi and others. That dragged on (off and on) from 1911 until into the 1930s.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: Plynkes on 08 April 2010, 12:42:35 PM: Thanks to me we've wandered off the original point of this topic somewhat (Empress' MG teams), so I've sent all that extra guff to a new "Italians in Libya" topic.

LINK (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=18011.0)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: pierrebi on 12 April 2010, 12:00:27 PM: Quote from: commissarmoody on 31 March 2010, 07:45:59 PM
What other colonial italian wars would they be good for? I don't know much about Italia's colonial adventures.

(http://images.movieplayer.it/2003/11/04/la-locandina-di-fascisti-su-marte-una-vittoria-negata-31284.jpg)

(http://images.movieplayer.it/2003/11/04/foto-di-gruppo-per-i-fascisti-su-marte-di-corrado-guzzanti-31281.jpg)

Fascists on Mars: bolshevik and traitor red planet
Fascists on Mars: we will give to our "Duce" and our King

:) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: commissarmoody on 12 April 2010, 04:36:32 PM: We shell take fascism to the Stars! lol
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: pierrebi on 19 April 2010, 08:58:00 AM: Quote from: commissarmoody on 12 April 2010, 04:36:32 PM
We shell take fascism to the Stars! lol
unfortunally, nowdays, people is taking to rule Rome City and his Region :(
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: commissarmoody on 19 April 2010, 09:46:59 AM: Ahhh now I feel sad, I only ment it as a joke. :(
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Italian LMG's
Post by: pierrebi on 19 April 2010, 11:59:08 AM: Quote from: commissarmoody on 19 April 2010, 09:46:59 AM
Ahhh now I feel sad, I only ment it as a joke. :(

It was a Joke, they made the film as a joke ... but last year a former fascist (a person who beated other people and policemen
http://translate.google.it/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liblab.it%2Fita%2FPolitica%2FElezioni%2FEcco-chi-%25C3%25A8-Alemanno.-Da-carcerato-per-attentato%2C-a-picchiatore-del-Fronte-della-Giovent%25C3%25B9-fino-a-vicepresidente-di-Alleanza-Nazionale&sl=it&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8 (http://translate.google.it/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liblab.it%2Fita%2FPolitica%2FElezioni%2FEcco-chi-%25C3%25A8-Alemanno.-Da-carcerato-per-attentato%2C-a-picchiatore-del-Fronte-della-Giovent%25C3%25B9-fino-a-vicepresidente-di-Alleanza-Nazionale&sl=it&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8) ) was elected Major of Rome and last mounth the leader of former fascist workers uninion was elected president of Rome Region ... no more a joke!