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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Fjodin on April 19, 2010, 01:02:05 PM
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Can somebody tell me if I am right?
Our VSF Universe (GASLIGHT, AERONEF Space 1889 etc) are mix of real history and VSF era books (and moredn VSF books)
* So Earth is like real Earth in late 19 century but with steam mashinesand manoo VSF goodies.
* There are Lost World with dinosaure somewhere in Jungles. Also You can find many interesting creatures in Africa and Amazon
* Earth is holow
* There are life on most Solar System Planets:
* Mars are desert with canals, nomands, citiest wich are remnants of ancient civilization, and Cephalopod race with tripods
* Venus are covered with jungles with dinos
My question are:
* What about Mercury?
* What about Gas Giand moons
* Are there are dinos and cavemans in Hollow Earth or you can find something else there?
I know that all of these is a mix of VSF books, but I just want to see you ideas. By the way, I have an Idea of making Jupiters moon Europa an snow cowered world with Mammoths!
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It really is a case of whatever you think happens can happen.
I'm all for for dinos and mammoths on other planets. Jupiters moons would make ideal places for VSF inspired action to take place.
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In Space 1889 Mercury is mostly uninhabitable. A burning hell on one side, a frozen one on the other (it always keeps the same face towards the sun in Space 1889, much as our moon does to us, though I think modern science has decided that isn't actually the case now). It does however have a narrow strip running around the planet where day meets night called the Twilight Zone, where the "World River" encircles the entire globe and there is life. The Brits have a scientific station there, but there is no other intelligent life (that has been discovered yet). What is there is quite primitive, lots of nasty things like serpents, giant poisonous centipedes, nasty squid-like creatures, etc.
Earth's Moon has air beneath the surface in places, and is home to the insect-like Selenites, and also there is the Land of the Moon Men, a separate massive cavern home to the Eleven Cities of the Moon Men. They are not natives of Earth's moon, but came from Vulcan, the destroyed planet which now forms the asteroid belt. They are scientifically advanced and have big bald heads like the Mekon.
Don't have anything on the Gas Giants. Don't know if they were ever covered in detail as I don't have all the books.
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Can somebody tell me if I am right?
You're not right, or wrong. Victorian Science Fiction is whatever you want it to be. I base my universe on the novels of Wells and other period fiction. Things change sporadically. Sometimes we can get to Mars, sometimes we can't. Don't worry about the specifics. Just make it up as you go along! None of it really happened anyway!
Lots of people here have ideas about VSF that that I disagree with alot; for example; more than one race on Mars - that's just silly! There is no universal VSF idea.
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I like that some put Tripods, Barsoum races and Space 1889 races on Mars all together. I like Mars being like in Leigh Brackett Mars novels. By the way, I've just get Space 1889 books. They are suppuse to be a good inspiration resource.
I have I crazy Idea about Atlantis. I saw that you use Azteks for atlantead. So what about this: long time ago Atlantis was great civilization wich loom like mix of Aztaks and Egypt. But after their scientiest (or priests) experiment with space/time it... disapears from Erth face and appears into dimentional "pocket". Now Atlantis and surrounding waters are in another dimention. But you can visit it! If you move your steamboat into Bermuda Triangle you will enter space/time warp zone wich can transport you on Alantis... The problem is that leaving Atlantis is not such easy, baceuse of aggressive Atlaniens who dont want outher world to know about them.
Why Bermuda Triangle? Because This was a place for atlantis island before cataclism!
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I also have a crazy ide of making Jupiters moon Europa... Ice Age world with mammoths and viking like inhabitants.
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I haven't read much of it yet, but the moon was once inhabited according to Edison's Conquest of Mars. Definately a book worth picking up if you are a VSF fanatic. I'm already planning a fleet of Earth-ships like the ones in the book (illustrated).
Don't forget the Venusian Parrotmen!!! :)
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Venusian Parrotmen?? I thouh it only inhabinant by Dinos and Lisaedmen?
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I have I crazy Idea about Atlantis. I saw that you use Azteks for atlantead. So what about this: long time ago Atlantis was great civilization wich loom like mix of Aztaks and Egypt. But after their scientiest (or priests) experiment with space/time it... disapears from Erth face and appears into dimentional "pocket". Now Atlantis and surrounding waters are in another dimention. But you can visit it! If you move your steamboat into Bermuda Triangle you will enter space/time warp zone wich can transport you on Alantis... The problem is that leaving Atlantis is not such easy, baceuse of aggressive Atlaniens who dont want outher world to know about them.
Why Bermuda Triangle? Because This was a place for atlantis island before cataclism!
Well, that's not very different in many respects to what's 'known' about Atlantis in the Atlantis campaign.
The short version is that Atlantis did exist in a 'dimensional pocket' after the Fall (about 10,000BC more or less) until 'now' (ie, 1890). For the Atlanteans, no time has passed; they don't know why all the stars are in different constellations. They are indeed are perturbed that 'the stars are strange' and 'strange times have come'.
But I haven't allowed for the possibility of travel to and from in the meantime. Perhaps though there might be places where time runs strangely 'warp zones' as you put it.
Venusian Parrotmen?? I thouh it only inhabinant by Dinos and Lisaedmen?
It can be inhabited by giant beings made of mint-flavoured jelly if you wish. I think the Parrotmen came from the fevered imagination of Dewbakuk, and some of this stuff can be found in this thread here (link) (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8689.0).
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My VSF universe is different....
;)
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My VSF universe is different....
;)
I think any universe with you in it is different...
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The great thing about VSF is you can make it into what ever you wish. In the games we play I use Space 1889 as the base with the colour coming from great books on the topic, Wells, Verne, Burroughs and the like. Colonialism in the Solar System is going strong.
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If colonials have asscess to space traveling - colonial era will never end. Maybe I will scratchbuild some of Russian Colonial Troops, because Russia does not have any colonies in 19 century :(
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Ahh, but they might in a VSF C19... ;) ;) ;)
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...because Russia does not have any colonies in 19 century :(
Other than all them "Stans": Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, etc.
What are they, chopped liver? :)
Edited because I said Uzbekistan twice. As far as I am aware, there has only ever been one Uzbekistan.
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as I see it, most moons in our system can offer some different background, and there are many
like the Callisto series by Lin Carter
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Bagsy Enceladus for my colony.
If you're coming to visit, don't forget your sunglasses.
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Fjodin, don't forget Alaska was a Russian colony in the 1800s too. Maybe, in your VSF era, Russia didn't support the Union and sell Alaska for $4 million in 1867...
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Russia does not have any colonies in 19 century :(
Tell that to the Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Belarusians, Estonians, Finns, Georgians, Kazakhs, Kyrgyzs, Latvians, Lithuanians, Moldovans, Poles, Tajiks, Turkmens, Ukrainians and Uzbeks...
(Probably some spelling mistakes in there. Sorry if I've missed anyone.)
You could do a struggle for the North Pole, over, say, newly discovered veins of unobtainium. Russia versus, um, Norway?
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Winter Ice battles with Sweden & Norway Vs Russia Vs Canada (Sounds a bit like hockey?) & British Empire. Or a Grand anti-Russian alliance (I really like the sounds of that!!!! Eh Sterling Moose?)
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Yes, feel free to tweak world history to color your world:
Here's some of how Im tweaking mine for some VSF fights and Pulp rpg:
http://alfrikleague.blogspot.com/2010/04/united-states-history.html
Constantly updateing it as the gaming changes things or lends new ideas to make changes.
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IMO and in my own vision I see the British forces having much more advanced sea borne vessels and space going nefs with civilizations such as the Prussians/Germans and French having more advanced ground based technology (AFV's steam mechs etc) and flyers.
My British aren't backwards by any means they just invest their colonial earnings a bit more...wisely.
I could also see Poland and maybe Sweden using lots of contraptions and gadgets, I don't know why, just seems 'right' in my mind.
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Tell that to the Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Belarusians, Estonians, Finns, Georgians, Kazakhs, Kyrgyzs, Latvians, Lithuanians, Moldovans, Poles, Tajiks, Turkmens, Ukrainians and Uzbeks...
(Probably some spelling mistakes in there. Sorry if I've missed anyone.)
You could do a struggle for the North Pole, over, say, newly discovered veins of unobtainium. Russia versus, um, Norway?
This is different. I mean overseas colonies. Where they build a new cities on blank land where only natives live with no technologe or civilizarion.
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Space travel and colonial powers. Exspanion is the basic drive of the great powers. Space with its wide open frontiers on so many planets and moons may mean no one power could dominate all of them, leading to a balkanization of the solar system? Large ether ship battles and boarding actions ahoy!
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This is why VSF is fun! :D There is a wealth of fluff backround info from Verne, Wells, etc. But you'll always find a few people who'll think your nuts for portraying something a certain way or why your new aeroneff model is just plain wrong. But, I really like this as a guiding principle(well said Alfrik!!!):
...Expansion is the basic drive of the great powers....