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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: gamer Mac on 26 April 2010, 09:08:56 AM
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I am in need of some inspiration.
Being at a loose end after the LPL and wanting to do something totally different than painting figures I have decided to build scenery.
What I want are a set of buildings etc, to represent Victorian Britain. I am thinking of a more urban setting, town or city.
I have some basic ideas for normal buildings and started building my first one last night using the OverlordTM brick scribing method. I will post some pictures later.
What I am after, and I know this is the best place to ask, is some inspiring pictures of Victorian buildings.
I am thinking of smaller things that are possible to build.
My list of ideas so far is
Houses
Shops
Police station
Gasworks.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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well you could do worse than look at overlords building frontages supplied by outpost waregames service
quick well detailed and time saving and good value for money, well I think so any way :D
http://www.outpostwargameservices.co.uk/ (http://www.outpostwargameservices.co.uk/)
dodge
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Hi gamer Mac,
Here is a couple of shots which may help -
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/4554320368_14f0ab159e.jpg)
A small church building in Amble and
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3514/4553685413_bbe9d85cf6.jpg)
Morpeth Market Hall
Good luck with your searching,
RMZ
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Get Malamute to show his Victorian layout. It must be online somewhere but I know not where.
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Svennn
Seen Malamute's set up and it is amazing but a bit out of my price range. It’s on his displaced miniatures site.
I not sure if making central London with all the major buildings is feasible.
I am thinking along the lines of the pictures posted by Ramirez.
Thanks
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I use google image search for basic research it usually leads me to a decent photo library on whatever I'm after,for Victorian buildingsI came across this one
http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/story/slide.aspx?storyUid=12&slideNo=1
It's a bit klunky to dig through but there is a lot in there here is another section to save you some time
http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/story/slide.aspx?storyUid=78&slideNo=4
I also used a copy of this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sherlock-Holmes-London-Photographic-Stories/dp/0395515300/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272282784&sr=1-6
but any book of old photos could be useful most tourist information offices in the uk seem to sell one on their particular area and dicount bookshops usualy have one or two,but the net is cheaper for pictures good luck with this project
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Great links thanks
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Hi gamer Mac,
I had a quick run round the town during my lunch break and found these; the less obvious sides of Cheltenham.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4553922175_7d90336905.jpg)
1895 Electricity sub-station for the former tram system,
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/4554554128_e0735a34ff.jpg)
A former printers (but possibly an earlier back to back house, not sure,
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/4554553256_114b9fd431.jpg)
A town house (Strawberry Hill Gothick, abouth 1840's)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4554552636_d69bf18afd.jpg)
A small (former) pub
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/4553919245_9ac99fdfce.jpg)
A larger (former) brewery and ...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3432/4553918383_f76a0570f3.jpg)
A Masonic Hall (very early Victorian)
Hope they inspire - I enjoyed catching up with what's happening in my town, but I don't feeel the need to go in again :D
RMZ
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Again thanks
Great pictures
I never expected anyone to go for a drive on my behalf. What do I owe you for petrol ;)
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Shank's pony did me fine ;).
"What do I owe you for petrol" - just keep on posting phots of your projects.
RMZ
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Have a word with Thundercheeks, he was telling me at Salute he has a number of books on Vic London, which have plenty of reference photos.I am sure he will copy some for you.
Jim Bibbly showed me a beautiful book as well which he had purchased recently. (the name escapes me at the moment) packed full of droolworthy pics of every conceivable type of building from shops, to houses, to pubs, warehouses, theatres etc all from the Vic era.
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It's called 'Lost London 1870-1945' and it's the best book I've bought in a long long time. You can get it in Waterstones and the price is £30, which for a hardback book of over 350 pages full of original photos is fantastic (you can never have enough books :) )
cheers
James
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Look for local versions too. I picked up a smallish paperback that's full of photo's of Victorian Nottingham and it only cost me £1.50 from Tesco's.
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Hi gamer Mac,
I had a quick run round the town during my lunch break and found these; the less obvious sides of Cheltenham.
Had to take a double look at these, I thought some out of townie had been lurking..........
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Thanks guys for all the inspiration.
As I said earlier in the thread I had all ready started my first building. Just from my imagination though.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_26_04_10_6_48_35_3.JPG)
Front
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_26_04_10_6_48_35_4.JPG)
Close up
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_26_04_10_6_49_29.JPG)
Windows in just place into position
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_26_04_10_6_48_35_2.JPG)
Stairs
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_26_04_10_6_48_35_1.JPG)
Servant’s entrance
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_26_04_10_6_48_35_0.JPG)
Start of the back
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GREAT START!!who makes the windows?
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GREAT START!!who makes the windows?
Wills OO gauge railway windows.
A bit small but OK. The doors in the pack are too small for normal main doors.
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.....started building my first one last night using the OverlordTM brick scribing method.
Very nice start Colin. Another convert to the madness.... o_o :D
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Another couple of pics.
Not glued together yet
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_27_04_10_12_57_26_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_27_04_10_12_57_27_1.JPG)
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So..... many...... bricks.........
Looking good, what is the building material? I'm wanting to ask if it's a pizza base....
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Yes it is a pizza base again :D
I have been saving them up just for this project.
Who says Scot are tight lol
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Very nice start Colin. Another convert to the madness.... o_o :D
They are croppiing up everywhere, its a bit like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"... ;)
Excellent start Colin, its looking great already. ;D
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looks bloody awesome. The door under the staircase is inspired :-*
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Inspiration. I'll be watching closely, hoping to pick up tips.
Great stuff so far.
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Very very good,
and great utilization of pizza bases,
what make ?
dodge
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Tesco's own brand ones
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I think I'm guna have to start eating more pizzas! I remember this being brought up a while ago and it truly is a stroke of genius!
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I was always impressed by the Kevin Dallimore ones, may be of inspiration/
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/dallimore/index.asp
I don't like pizza >:( so my search for a suitable alternative that does not cost an arm and a leg continues
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Wills OO gauge railway windows.
A bit small but OK. The doors in the pack are too small for normal main doors.
He got a website?
Nice build btw!
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Wills is a company name for railway model stuff
try this link
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peco-uk.com%2FProducts%2Fwills.htm&rct=j&q=wills+model+kits&ei=WibXS67OAp-MmwOApPXCCA&usg=AFQjCNHq4Bv2iBtktwyfBbXIih--iPya5A (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peco-uk.com%2FProducts%2Fwills.htm&rct=j&q=wills+model+kits&ei=WibXS67OAp-MmwOApPXCCA&usg=AFQjCNHq4Bv2iBtktwyfBbXIih--iPya5A)
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Very, very nice. Good job. :)
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Tesco's own brand ones
cool we shop at tesco's
fantastic model too, I think I've said that already o_o
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Yet another question Mr Colin...
What size are the windows?
And in answer to your email... I'm not sure about the mould making stuff I've got... a friend in work gave it to me. I'll pass it onto you tomorrow as I'm not likely to ever use it; on the condition you make me some lampposts lol
Cheers
Andy
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The squares in the picture are 5 mm. It will give you an idea of the size
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_27_04_10_11_22_12_2.JPG)
The remains of the two packets I had
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_27_04_10_11_22_12_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_27_04_10_11_22_12_1.JPG)
The parts are now glued together. PVA glue doesn’t work great but I have found out that superglue works well! Normal plastic cement sticks to it as well.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_27_04_10_11_22_12_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_27_04_10_11_22_12_4.JPG)
Now on to the roof.
But first I am going to watch some tele, haven't seen any for 10 weeks :D
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Colin, this is cracking stuff! A town house is on my list of things to build but was dreading it so hats off to you! Looking forward to seeing this one finished.
For inspiration you've got Google images but you can also take a wander around the local town and it wont be long until you see something that catches your eye.
As the other chaps have said books are a great source. Nip down to your local libaray and in the reference section they should have books like those 'Then and Now' publications or 'Such and Such Town as it was', you know the sort I mean.
I'm a bit lucky as I have access to the university library and there are shelves of books with images of Victorian Britain, I've literally spent days trawling through them! ;D There's even books for the architectural boffs with floor plans etc of Victorian housing. If you get desparate get yourself down to Chez Thunderchicken for a weekend and I'll take you there so you can have a trawl yourself..... via the pub of course. ;)
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Chez Thunderchicken
Why does that sound not quite right ;D
cheers
James
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Why does that sound not quite right ;D
cheers
James
Because your mind works on a disturbed level ;)
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Thunderchicken Arms has a certain dignity to it.
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Because your mind works on a disturbed level ;)
;D
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The parts are now glued together. PVA glue doesn’t work great but I have found out that superglue works well! Normal plastic cement sticks to it as well.
For foam I use UHU Por or Foam2Foam.
(http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/gbu0-catshow/glue.html - Far right, rows 3 & 5)
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Gamer Mac, how come your Tesco pizza base doesn't seem to have an annoying raised circle in the middle of it? We had pizza for our tea the other night, so I grabbed the packaging as I'd been reading this thread earlier in the day, but the polystyrene tray has a circle in the middle of it, about 50mm diameter. Have you cunningly disguised this, or am I eating the wrong pizza?
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Some of them have but it is not very pronounced and usually only on one side.
The cunning trick is to use the flat side :D
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lol
I think, but I could be wrong, that he's telling you to turn it over Orc. ;)
Genius lol
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lol
I think, but I could be wrong, that he's telling you to turn it over Orc. ;)
Genius lol
lol lol lol
Have you heard the prank phone call by the Asda customer who complains that his pizza has nothing on it, goes on for a bit then relises it's upside down, priceless :)
Very nice build by the way, how well does the foam hold it's shape. I get the immpression that over time it would 'form' back to it's original shape?
cheers
James
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Made this one last summer
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=12124.msg139204#msg139204 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=12124.msg139204#msg139204)
and it is still fine.
Hasn't been used much just sat on a shelf.
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That's got quite a good texture on it when it's painted.
cheers
James
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Some of them have but it is not very pronounced and usually only on one side.
The cunning trick is to use the flat side :D
OK, I'm going to call this as 'the wrong sort of pizza' because this has a raised bump on one side, and an indentation on the other. Though it isn't very pronounced in either case, I reckon I can work round it. I think your raised entrance is great, and maybe just the thing to disguise the lumps and bumps.
Everyone else - thanks guys, really helpful :P
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Just a small update.
Started working out the paint scheme. Also added some embellishments to the front.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_30_04_10_11_03_53_0.JPG)
Started work on the roof s well
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_30_04_10_11_03_53_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_30_04_10_11_03_53_2.JPG)
Also working on some other bits and pieces
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_30_04_10_11_03_53_3.JPG)
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Niiiiice! :)
What material are you using for the embellishments?
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wow just wow
excellent everything there
dodge
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Bloody 'Ell, it just gets better and better :-*
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That's looking impresive :o - I like the wall and railings as well.
RMZ
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The detailed bit and pieces are made from pink high density foam.
More of the fence
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_01_05_10_11_40_43_0.JPG)
Roof finished
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_01_05_10_11_40_44_2.JPG)
Front stair put together with the fence
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_01_05_10_11_40_44_1.JPG)
More detail on the front and the roof in place
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_01_05_10_11_40_44_3.JPG)
and it all together
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_01_05_10_11_40_46_4.JPG)
Still got the windows to do. I am going to paint them before I glue them in place. A couple doors to build and few more details to add including some gas lamps at the door.
Going to paint the main bit before I glue it all together.
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It just gets better and better! :-*
I'll have to give that high density foam a bash, where do you source yours from?
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I got four big sheets from B&Q.
It was while ago but I think it was £20 for the four, 2' x 4' x 2" thick.
I split a pack with my brother and have used loads of it so far.
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I got four big sheets from B&Q.
It was while ago but I think it was £20 for the four, 2' x 4' x 2" thick.
I split a pack with my brother and have used loads of it so far.
What are you using to cut it so neatly? I seem to find it cuts nicely in one plain but then snags a little in another
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Nice piece of work you had done there!
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Ooooh, nice embellishments!
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What are you using to cut it so neatly? I seem to find it cuts nicely in one plain but then snags a little in another
Exactly the problem I've been having. I bought some styrofoam and the results were embarrassing. Thought about using a hot knife but not sure what fumes I'd gas myself with.
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Just a normal modelling or Stanely knike.
Nothing special.
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Just a normal modelling or Stanely knike.
Nothing special.
I find its not so much which knife, as how sharp it is. Use a sharp blade and replace it frequently. The snagging/ripping occurs as the blade dulls. The foam (and foamcore) kill blades fairly quickly.
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A small update on my progress with my house.
Not convinced that the paint job on the front looks quite right yet? I am trying for a brown sandstone sort of look.
Still to paint the stairs
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_09_05_10_11_31_28_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_09_05_10_11_31_28_1.JPG)
Started work on the windows
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_09_05_10_11_31_28_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_09_05_10_11_31_28_3.JPG)
First one tested into place
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_09_05_10_11_31_28_4.JPG)
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I think the sandstone colouration is good; painting the stairs a similar colour will pull the whole facade together.
Ramirez
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Looking good GM. I'm never sure if the colour has worked until I've painted all there is to paint on the building. Are the lintels and window sills going to be a different colour?
The windows are looking good too, it's all coming together rather splendidly! ;)
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Looks great!
I'd say paint all the window ledges and lintels another colour (grey maybe) and you are set.
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Are the lintels and window sills going to be a different colour?
Looks great!
I'd say paint all the window ledges and lintels another colour (grey maybe) and you are set.
I don't know most of the building I have seen around here this colour have the ledges and lintels made of the same material as the rest of the frontage.
I have just looked at some more on the web and can see that a lot of them are a different colour. What colour do you suggest. A light stone colour?
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A light stone colour might work, I paint mine the same colour as the mortar and then give it an ink wash. I'll PM you with some pics, dont want to hijack your thread.
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Absolutely wonderful GM. A fantastic piece, I can't wait to see half a dozen of them in a row ;)
The sills and lintels would be single piece stonework in order to support the gaps and would more than likely be made from local stone. Sandstone would be my choice for the nice contrast as already mentioned but you could have a real myriad even without factoring in that they could be painted.
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Small update
I was away working last week and never got much done
Bricks painted. Trying to copy Thunderchickens colours
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_18_05_10_8_08_44_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_18_05_10_8_08_44_1.JPG)
Painted the window sills
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_18_05_10_8_08_45_4.JPG)
What it looks like with the window just in place. Still to paint them.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_18_05_10_8_08_45_3.JPG)
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Oh yes, that's bloody marvellous GM and really looks the part :-*.
Do you mind if I nick some of your ideas?
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No problem Neil.
I will return the favour.
As far as I managed tonight
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_19_05_10_12_55_48.JPG)
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It's looking very good Colin :-*
One thing I might try is a bit of stained weathering coming from the eave edging and some of the window corners, I always find it adds that little bit extra :)
cheers
James
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Great job!
Am particularly loving that sandy brown to the brickwork - very evocative of the East End (pre slab-concrete tower blocks and glass-fronted river-side apartments, etc, etc).
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Just keeps getting better and better
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absolutely loving what you are doing with this project :-*
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OK, I'm going to call this as 'the wrong sort of pizza' because this has a raised bump on one side, and an indentation on the other. Though it isn't very pronounced in either case, I reckon I can work round it. I think your raised entrance is great, and maybe just the thing to disguise the lumps and bumps.
Everyone else - thanks guys, really helpful :P
Nope right pizza, I've been using these myself for a similar job. Some are flat both sides, some are raised on just one side but most for me have the bump and the indentation meaning available surface is much reduced. I guess you just have to get lucky or eat more pizza which is a win, win.
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I had a look at the pizzas in Tesco's last night, most of them had the indentation. The Italian style, thin based pizzas all had the flat bases without an indentation.
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I had a look at the pizzas in Tesco's last night, most of them had the indentation. The Italian style, thin based pizzas all had the flat bases without an indentation.
You mean you went through the pizza isle opening all the packets much to the consternation of the staff lol lol
cheers
James
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meh, they were about to close anyway :D
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Finished the front now
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_21_05_10_8_22_49_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_21_05_10_8_22_49_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_21_05_10_8_22_49_2.JPG)
Close up of my attempt at a gas lamp
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_21_05_10_8_22_50_4.JPG)
What do you think? Does it work?
Just the back windows and door to paint, then add some chimneys
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Great work Colin. Small details make a huge difference to the finished model and you've covered that nicely. Go on, spill the beans on the lamp, it looks very good and could save me splashing out for my next build.
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Great stuff old boy. ;D
The gas lamp looks excellent. The whole model is a triumph :-*
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Modeling to perfection, the lamp really makes the difference. Great idea and well executed!
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Is the lamp a clear plastic bead that you painted some brass fittings on?
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Nothing says Victorian to me like Gas lamps. So when I was thinking about making some Victorian buildings I started looking for them but I thought that the ones available were very expensive for what you actually get.
I thought is should be quite an easy shape to make so I have been keeping my eye out for a suitable shape for the actual lamp. I went to Hobycraft the other day and found these.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_22_05_10_11_54_58_0.JPG)
From a company who make beads for Jewellery
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_22_05_10_11_54_58_1.JPG)
I have seen similar stuff before but very expensive these were only just over £1 for a packet of 22.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/1912_22_05_10_11_54_58_2.JPG)
I am intending to make street gas lamps using bits of plastic and brass rod as well
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An inspired idea Colin to use those Crystals. :)
You have got to love Hobbycraft for what it can offer, its a veritable oasis of hidden treasures for the wargamer :D
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Yes the lamp works, that's brilliant :D (big cheesy grin at how ace it looks)
And everything else about it is super too!
... I guess you just have to get lucky or eat more pizza which is a win, win.
That is of course the upside. Hmmm, Tesco's pizza, there's a thing to have in front of t'telly watching Dr Who...
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Really nice work, gamer Mac 8)
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The building is superb and the crystals inspired. Just brilliant.
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The whole project looks great. Kudos for the crystal-to-gas-lamp idea. Much loveliness.
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That is of course the upside. Hmmm, Tesco's pizza, there's a thing to have in front of t'telly watching Dr Who...
I can think of better things...
cheers
James