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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Hammers on April 29, 2010, 12:14:09 PM
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Does anyone know? A very high proportion of the existing German tanks were scrapped or used in research after the war so there are not many in circulation.
Which also makes me wonder, authentic looking tanks in films like Saving Private Ryan, are they all replicas?
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I know that the Tiger tanks in SPR was a mock-up build on a Russian tank chassis… can’t help you for other films/series though
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I sense the beginnings of a cunning evil ploy leading to swedish world domination, here... NO, I tell you - we want our beer!!! lol
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I sense the beginnings of a cunning evil ploy leading to swedish world domination, here... NO, I tell you - we want our beer!!! lol
If there ever was a country which could be tagged 'Mostly Harmless', it is us. All you have to fear from us is a limp hand shake. :)
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and Music by ABBA ;)
I read about Russian workshops that dig out old tanks from rivers and marshes, renovate and sell them
there's a lot rotting around there
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I know that the Tiger tanks in SPR was a mock-up build on a Russian tank chassis… can’t help you for other films/series though
That's right; some of the others were Swiss "Hetzer" chassis retrofitted to look like Marders, I think. For Band of Brothers, they mocked up StuGs by chopping old FV432s in two and adding a section with a sixth roadwheel, then adding a new superstructure. Very well done, those.
As for purchasing WW2 tanks, it depends on the model. As one would think, German tanks would be amongst the most expensive, for the reasons given above, and very rare. American Shermans are more plentiful, although I think there are more of the upgunned 76 variants than the original 75ers. Remember that Brazil (?) used those until the 1980s. Similar thing for T-34s, the /85 was very numerous, and I think you can get them from Russian stockpiles (depending on your wallet and your country's laws).
I guess it's easiest to get post-war armoured cars.
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There's a WW2 reenacting unit here in California, Hammers, which purchased a T-34/85 from Russia, intact, with a 1944 construction date, for 5,000 dollars us. Of course, part of the deal was that they had to foot the bill for the shipping, but it was quite a steal.
A few years ago, there was a private gentleman on Guam who had access to two Type 95 Ha-Go light tanks (Japanese). He was offering them at the AFV trader site as is for 9,000 dollars each.
More practically, there are a few companies here in the US that make fiberglass mockups of armored vehicles for semi-reasonable prices. I know that some of the reenacting groups on the East Coast have Tigers, Panthers, and at least one Puma. Another company was selling complete buildups of "kit car" BA-64s - 10,000 dollars each. Could install an air conditioning unit, stereo, etc, if you wanted;)
As I understand it, Hetzers are the easiest of the German vehicles to find, since they had a long post-war shelflife and were used until the 1970s in some countries. Hell, the Mexicans were still using their Stuarts to suppress the Zapatistas in the late 90s.
-Doc
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Another company was selling complete buildups of "kit car" BA-64s - 10,000 dollars each. Could install an air conditioning unit, stereo, etc, if you wanted;)
Bourgeois luxuries. ;) lol
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Bourgeois luxuries. ;) lol
HAH;)
Actually, being an armored vehicle crewman at a reenactment is pretty sweet. Everybody wants you to be at his event, and if you're willing to get the thing dirty, it can be a real blast. Especially with air conditioning;)
I still want to build a CV33 and go tooling around some Eastern Front event shouting epithets in Italian;)
-Doc
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I still want to build a CV33 and go tooling around some Eastern Front event shouting epithets in Italian;)
So that means you'll be wearing out the reverse gear really quickly?
;)
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So that means you'll be wearing out the reverse gear really quickly?
;)
I notice they were used in China by the nationalists. Interesting. 1/56 scale, anyone?
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I've seen pictures of German halftracks and some of the early war tanks that are owned and operated by private collectors, but I don't recall seeing any of the big late-war German tank like Panthers or King Tigers in private hands. There could be some around, but they seem to have mainly survived in museums.
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I've seen pictures of German halftracks and some of the early war tanks that are owned and operated by private collectors, but I don't recall seeing any of the big late-war German tank like Panthers or King Tigers in private hands. There could be some around, but they seem to have mainly survived in museums.
Most of the "half-track APCs" around nowadays are in fact Czech post-war OT-810 models, which are then re-modelled to look more like WW2 halftracks (i.e. by removing the closed roof and possibly modifying the hull sides). Half-track tractors (of all sizes) are usually authentic and highly-prized, from what I know.
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IIRC there was a (very, very) short article in White Dwarf that mentioned that the Perry Brothers had bought a Sherman tank… Anyone know if there is any truth in that?
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I notice they were used in China by the nationalists. Interesting. 1/56 scale, anyone?
http://www.forceofarms.co.uk/
Empress also has a CV 35.
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There is a set of LVT2 landing craft on Ebay motors right now for $6k. I mentioned it the the rest of the guys here at Company B if it's worth sticking our sales shop in the back of one and driving it to the cons! The owner used it to dig ditches!
As for italian tanks...we carry all the models created by Ian Crouch, including both versions of the CV33. Not to mention, China is our next theater... with KMT troops already available through Brigade Games.
I have been scouring as many sources as I can for Chinese created armored cars and trucks...
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IIRC there was a (very, very) short article in White Dwarf that mentioned that the Perry Brothers had bought a Sherman tank… Anyone know if there is any truth in that?
I *think* it was a Stuart.
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Bourgeois luxuries. ;) lol
I'm half expecting one to appear on 'Pimp my ride' now... :D
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At the tank museum in Danville, VA, there is a wonderful Mk IV Panzer on display. The history of it is the Russians captured it during WWII, gave it to the Syrians, the Israelis captured it from the Syrians, and then traded it to the tank museum for another tank. So its been around.
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I occasionaly pick up the "Classic Military Vehicle" mag when there is an interesting article or two in it. The last one I got back in October 2007 had a Chieftain ARRV going for about £ 15,000 and loads of Willy's jeeps with an average tag of about £ 6,000 - but no german armour listed.
Ramirez
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There's a WW2 reenacting unit here in California, Hammers, which purchased a T-34/85 from Russia, intact, with a 1944 construction date, for 5,000 dollars us. Of course, part of the deal was that they had to foot the bill for the shipping, but it was quite a steal.
A few years ago, there was a private gentleman on Guam who had access to two Type 95 Ha-Go light tanks (Japanese). He was offering them at the AFV trader site as is for 9,000 dollars each.
More practically, there are a few companies here in the US that make fiberglass mockups of armored vehicles for semi-reasonable prices. I know that some of the reenacting groups on the East Coast have Tigers, Panthers, and at least one Puma. Another company was selling complete buildups of "kit car" BA-64s - 10,000 dollars each. Could install an air conditioning unit, stereo, etc, if you wanted;)
As I understand it, Hetzers are the easiest of the German vehicles to find, since they had a long post-war shelflife and were used until the 1970s in some countries. Hell, the Mexicans were still using their Stuarts to suppress the Zapatistas in the late 90s.
-Doc
Those California guys do some battles near where I live at Camp Roberts. I think they had some of the tanks that were used in Saving Private Ryan as well. They've got all sorts of vehicles. Check around on some of the WWII reenacting sites.
Price? No idea, but I'm sure it's a huge investment and labor of love.
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I once found a centurion in a little old lady's side garden! :o
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A good condition Schwimmwagen goes for about 100.000 €. Imagine what a Panzer will cost...