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Title: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on April 30, 2010, 10:23:50 AM
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/Zulu%20War/P1030140.jpg)
The second figure in the Col Durnford set I got at Salute.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 30, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Is he missing a hand?
Good job on the horse, I hate painting them.

Actually, not seen this figure before. Was he a Salute release that's not on the site yet? I've just had a look and can't see him.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: former user on April 30, 2010, 10:43:25 AM
was this a limited release?
spiffing paintjob!

 
Is he missing a hand?

lol He had a limp arm and in the movie version Burt Lancaster tucked it into his jacket lol
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 30, 2010, 10:45:39 AM
Yeah, just noticed in the other thread. Apparently the new figs just aren't on the site yet.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Malamute on April 30, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
was this a limited release?
spiffing paintjob!

 lol He had a limp arm and in the movie version Burt Lancaster tucked it into his jacket lol

As he did in real life. An Assegai wound to his elbow left him with a paralysed arm which he would support by sticking it in his jacket.
He's a lovely figure, the dismounted version is great with his revolver hanging by a cord. Paul Hicks has captured the look perfectly with his long drooping moustache.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 30, 2010, 10:56:47 AM
and a slouch hat........
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Chairface on April 30, 2010, 12:39:06 PM
Gorgeous!
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Calimero on April 30, 2010, 02:26:12 PM
As he did in real life. An Assegai wound to his elbow left him with a paralysed arm which he would support by sticking it in his jacket.
He's a lovely figure, the dismounted version is great with his revolver hanging by a cord. Paul Hicks has captured the look perfectly with his long drooping moustache.

Really nice figure... forgive me if I'm thick but did the actual, real life, character had is hand amputated or not?
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 30, 2010, 02:30:14 PM
Really nice figure... forgive me if I'm thick but did the actual, real life, character had is hand amputated or not?

I don't believe so. I've been told he did keep it tucked into his jacket though.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Calimero on April 30, 2010, 02:44:06 PM
I don't believe so. I've been told he did keep it tucked into his jacket though.

:o Oh my God! So Paul Hicks isn't perfect? I'm shocked! lol

Once again, that’s a really nice figure… as always with Paul’s stuff… My wallet really hate him ;)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 30, 2010, 03:25:24 PM
:o Oh my God! So Paul Hicks isn't perfect? I'm shocked! lol

No he's not. If he was perfect there'd be a head sprue wearing slouch hats to convert the other troops...
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: joroas on April 30, 2010, 03:31:56 PM
So he's not 'armless then?  lol
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Helen on April 30, 2010, 11:14:56 PM
Nice work David on Dunford. Paul has scupt a lovely looking miniature.

How are you incorporating the single figures in the rule set you developed? Counters for some reaction?

Cheers,

Helen
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Mark251054 on April 30, 2010, 11:53:07 PM
Hi David,

Wonderful paint job....

Did Durnford carry a sword after Bushmans Pass, when it was so bent that it would not fit in to its scabbard?

Also I believe that 'Chieftain' (his horse) was a grey.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on May 01, 2010, 08:23:53 AM
Hi David,

Wonderful paint job....

Did Durnford carry a sword after Bushmans Pass, when it was so bent that it would not fit in to its scabbard?

Also I believe that 'Chieftain' (his horse) was a grey.

No idea about the sword, I'm afraid and hate painting greys period! ;)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Plynkes on May 01, 2010, 08:54:47 AM
Don't feel bad. Seems like Burt Lancaster don't like Greys either...

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Durnford.jpg)
 :)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Mark251054 on May 01, 2010, 10:13:47 AM
Ah the late great Burt Lancaster who's 'oirish' accent (in Zulu Dawn) has only been equalled in modern times by Val Kilmer in 'Alexander' (who one presumes was trying to keep up with Colin 'feckin' Farrell).

Yeah greys are buggers to paint (i've cheated with my Durnford and got my mate to paint his hoss)

 :)

Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: timg on May 01, 2010, 10:40:45 AM
Strong chance he would have had one, the sword being the mark of an officer in those days and almost obligatory for a Regular to carry however impractical but whether he would have used it with his arm being cattle trucked i dont know. Never understood why Burt had to use an Irish accent in that film tbh?

I dont mind painting grey horses if i dont have to do the dapple bit, think the Scots Greys in WW1 had the best idea, paint them a darker colour..............mind they went pink under the sun afterwards so maybe not!
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Plynkes on May 01, 2010, 10:45:14 AM
Never understood why Burt had to use an Irish accent in that film tbh?

Probably because Durnford was born in Ireland. I guess he felt it gave him the excuse to not have to try and do an English accent (though as it turns out, his Irish one wasn't all that, either).


I think he should have just used his own natural voice. Robert Redford plays an Englishman using his American accent in "Out of Africa" and you don't even notice. The bad Irish accent is much more noticeable than Lancaster's own American one would have been.
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Plynkes on May 01, 2010, 10:54:32 AM
By the way, I think Richard Gere's preposterous IRA man in "The Jackal" had a far worse accent than any of the above-mentioned.  :)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on May 01, 2010, 01:06:27 PM
So he's not 'armless then?  lol

I have to hand it to you - your puns really are disarmingly bad  :-I
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Mark251054 on May 01, 2010, 01:17:21 PM
Hi Tim,

Early in January 1879, Durnford describes him self as "......dressed in a serge patrol jacket, dark riding breeches, belts over both shoulders and one on the waist, that held his hunting knife and revolver....looking like a stage brigand"

However no sword. Whilst I do not doubt that AWD would have had a sword for dress occasions, I feel it would be impractical on active service for a man with only one good arm to draw and sheath it (despite Durnford’s recorded ability to un-jam carbines etc one handed)


 :)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: timg on May 01, 2010, 01:38:23 PM
Hi Tim,

Early in January 1879, Durnford describes him self as "......dressed in a serge patrol jacket, dark riding breeches, belts over both shoulders and one on the waist, that held his hunting knife and revolver....looking like a stage brigand"

However no sword. Whilst I do not doubt that AWD would have had a sword for dress occasions, I feel it would be impractical on active service for a man with only one good arm to draw and sheath it (despite Durnford’s recorded ability to un-jam carbines etc one handed)


 :)

Well thats the answer then, cheers Mark. Out of interest was there a tendency for the carbines to jam?
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: Mark251054 on May 01, 2010, 02:06:04 PM
Hi Tim,

During the defence of the Mpofane donga at Isandlwana, it is recorded that some of the NNMC carbines jammed and that Durnford helped to un-jam them (he apparently gripped the carbine with his knees and used his good hand to remove the case)

It is probable that the bottom of the casing came away from the cartridge (caused by the brass heating up during firing), this was a problem not unknown with Martini Henry's (and presumably - I'm only guesssing here without heading for my books also with Swinburne Henry's). It could also have just been caused by the brass expaning in the breech.

That is one reason the British went from the 'rolled' cartridge to the 'drawn' one, which helped with the problem,  additionally the Mk IV Martini had a long lever to help extact the 'drawn' cartridge (which had its own extraction issues seperate from the earlier 'rolled' casing)

I do not feel the problem was as great as with the Springfield Carbine used at the 7th cavalry LBH.


Cheers

 :)
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: timg on May 01, 2010, 02:10:54 PM
Ah yes the Springfield, mind would have helped if they had been allowed to practice with it. Cheers for that, had been aware of the famous and these days it seems alleged ammo shortage but not the jaming factor.  ;D
Title: Re: Empress Miniatures Colonel Durnford ~ mounted version
Post by: former user on May 01, 2010, 02:36:40 PM
Never understood why Burt had to use an Irish accent in that film tbh?

The movie being about a british topic and casted almost enirely with British actors, there was a strong rejection for a US actor to be cast. Lancaster was forced in by the producers in order to catch US audience. So he had to do a "british" accent.