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Title: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: Hammers on 03 May 2010, 10:16:55 AM
Who makes one?
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: Svennn on 03 May 2010, 10:19:56 AM
Presuming you want 28mm? (and not knowledgeable enough to know what is an early or a late) surely there is one here?

http://www.diewaffenkammer.com/_germany.html
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 03 May 2010, 11:28:27 AM
The "C" and "D" versions would be the ones used in the mid- and late war and probably the most numerous.

Solido make a SdKfz 251 which LOOKS like a "B" (that is, with the bumper bar and the edge higher up in the front). I think it also got some rivets (had two but sold them). That said, the tracks are the single-link Solido type and make it look rather toy-like.

C-variants, however, were used from as early as the latter half of 1940, so I guess that one works for WW2, but for pre-war and France settings, you would probably need an A or B. AFV Club make a superb kit of the C in 1/48th scale. I got one but didn't yet get around to building it.
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: Hammers on 03 May 2010, 01:07:19 PM
Right thanks. I am not well read up on the differences but something that may have been used in Operation Weserübung or perhaps the invasion of Greece, so a C model may work. I would however prefer a resin model, so thanks Svenn.
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 03 May 2010, 02:27:23 PM
Right thanks. I am not well read up on the differences but something that may have been used in Operation Weserübung or perhaps the invasion of Greece, so a C model may work. I would however prefer a resin model, so thanks Svenn.

If you want to go for authenticity, an A or B would be the one for Weserübung. A C would be fine since most people except for some like rivet-counters wouldn't complain, even if they noticed the difference, and for Greece, C would pose no problem at all.

This is a B:

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Restricted%20Access/sdkfz251a2.jpg)

From what I can see, Army Group North's SdKfz 251/1 and /10 (command vehicle with a 37mm AT gun in place of the MG34/42) seems to be the B variant.

http://www.agnminiatures.com/html/germany.html
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: Hammers on 03 May 2010, 02:32:07 PM
If you want to go for authenticity, an A or B would be the one for Weserübung. A C would be fine since most people except for some like rivet-counters wouldn't complain, even if they noticed the difference, and for Greece, C would pose no problem at all.

This is a B:

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Restricted%20Access/sdkfz251a2.jpg)

From what I can see, Army Group North's SdKfz 251/1 and /10 (command vehicle with a 37mm AT gun in place of the MG34/42) seems to be the B variant.

http://www.agnminiatures.com/html/germany.html

That's perfect WeyKey! Is there anyone carrying them in Europe?
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 03 May 2010, 03:23:49 PM
That's perfect WeyKey! Is there anyone carrying them in Europe?

Bolt Action used to carry some, but ever since Warlord Games took over the range, they are not in the catalogue. That said, the BAM vehicles are excellent themselves, but their current model lineups are more skewed towards late-war.
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: Mainly28s on 03 May 2010, 06:44:57 PM
If you want to go for authenticity, an A or B would be the one for Weserübung. A C would be fine since most people except for some like rivet-counters wouldn't complain, even if they noticed the difference, and for Greece, C would pose no problem at all.

From what I can see, Army Group North's SdKfz 251/1 and /10 (command vehicle with a 37mm AT gun in place of the MG34/42) seems to be the B variant.

http://www.agnminiatures.com/html/germany.html

The AGNM one is an A- the extra vision ports on the rear hull sides are the give-away. Shave the rear two on each side off, and you have a B...
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: CompanyB on 03 May 2010, 08:09:41 PM
Yep...I was going to mention AGN....  They have the early versions.

JTFM does have the early C as well. 
Title: Re: Early Sdkfz 251
Post by: jtrnka on 03 May 2010, 10:20:18 PM
We make the SdKfz.251/1c, 2c, 7c, and 10C.

Cheers,

Jeff @ JTFM Enterprises/Die Waffenkammer