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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: joroas on 04 May 2010, 10:12:07 PM
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News from Warlord:
Warlord Games We've been entertaining royalty today - Charles I was being pressed into a master mould. And no, he doesn't come with a detachable head...
lol
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Lol, very good!
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I've seen him, I'm sure you'll like him, but he's not got a detachable head! :D
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"The man of blood", pre being improved by head detachment.
Should be popular with womantically wong woyalists lol
Look forward to seeing the figure.
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I've seen him, I'm sure you'll like him, but he's not got a detachable head!
Nothing a sharp razor saw couldn't correct........ lol
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About the time the good guys got representation....
Dig up Cromwell and fill him full of more holes, I say;) If there's anything left of old Wartyface.
-Doc
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Too late mate: isn't that pretty much what Chas II did after the restoration?
Actually, during the part of the First Civil War I find most appealing, Cromwell was 2IC of the Eastern Association Army, Thomas Fairfax, William Waller, Philip Skippon etc were far more prominent than he.
The King, however, was still the king, not neccessarily the worst monarch we ever had, but not far off - certainly far from being a good guy.
To paraphrase 1066 and All That: Woyalists, womantic but wrong. lol
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Good guys, my arse.
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Too late mate: isn't that pretty much what Chas II did after the restoration?
Actually, during the part of the First Civil War I find most appealing, Cromwell was 2IC of the Eastern Association Army, Thomas Fairfax, William Waller, Philip Skippon etc were far more prominent than he.
The King, however, was still the king, not neccessarily the worst monarch we ever had, but not far off - certainly far from being a good guy.
To paraphrase 1066 and All That: Woyalists, womantic but wrong. lol
Yes, he did indeed.
My Irish grandmother had a particular love of Cromwell... or was that a particular hatred?;)
I'm not saying Chaz was fantastic, but I don't think the fellows who replaced him were any better.
-Doc
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not neccessarily the worst monarch we ever had, but not far off
Not sure that I agree, a typical younger son left with a job he was not prepared for, having had an upbringing that told him he was a little god and having been ashamed of his father's dissolute lifestyle and adopting, therefore, an incredibly moral stance. Misguided, maybe, shy and uncomfortable, certainly, stubborn, absolutely, but a bad person, I'm not sure. I liken him to Nicholas II, a good guy but in the wrong job at the wrong time and inheriting a wealth of bad karma from previous monarchs.
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Not sure that I agree, a typical younger son left with a job he was not prepared for, having had an upbringing that told him he was a little god and having been ashamed of his father's dissolute lifestyle and adopting, therefore, an incredibly moral stance. Misguided, maybe, shy and uncomfortable, certainly, stubborn, absolutely, but a bad person, I'm not sure. I liken him to Nicholas II, a good guy but in the wrong job at the wrong time and inheriting a wealth of bad karma from previous monarchs.
I must say, that's about the most reasonable defence of him I've come across so far ;)
Still, you have to have an enemy to fight in a war, so no doubt he'll be a popular choice. :)
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About the time the good guys got representation....
Dig up Cromwell and fill him full of more holes, I say;) If there's anything left of old Wartyface.
-Doc
Then hang and tar the body-death is too good for him. (He was a good general though too damn good actually).
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Funny how these Yankee-Doodle-Dandies are so keen for us Brits to be saddled with an absolute monarchy and the Divine Rights of Kings. Weren't so damn eager for it for themselves, as I recall.
Bleedin' hypocrites. ;)
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Funny how these Yankee-Doodle-Dandies are so keen for us Brits to be saddled with an absolute monarchy and the Divine Rights of Kings. Weren't so damn eager for it for themselves, as I recall.
Bleedin' hypocrites. ;)
Better you than us, besides tradition is so much more important in the Old World, to many over here have no respect for the ideas of the past.
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Funny how these Yankee-Doodle-Dandies are so keen for us Brits to be saddled with an absolute monarchy and the Divine Rights of Kings. Weren't so damn eager for it for themselves, as I recall.
Bleedin' hypocrites. ;)
I'd be more than happy to be declared absolute monarch over here. Anyone else would just be a pretender to the throne. lol
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Funny how these Yankee-Doodle-Dandies are so keen for us Brits to be saddled with an absolute monarchy and the Divine Rights of Kings. Weren't so damn eager for it for themselves, as I recall.
Bleedin' hypocrites. ;)
In high school my AP American History teacher instructed the class to write a short paper explaining the causes of the rebellion and why it was justified. I shocked the teacher by being the only student (ever in his career) who actually argued that it was unjustified. He gave me an A, but he did call me a "Tory creep".
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I shocked the teacher by being the only student (ever in his career) who actually argued that it was unjustified. He gave me an A, but he did call me a "Tory creep
Yay, good on you. What you thought we would defend you from the natives for free?
The republic was founded on a lie, all men are created equal- what hypocricy in a slave owning country that went on to steal the natives' land after they killed them? Charles doesn't look to bad now
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In high school my AP American History teacher instructed the class to write a short paper explaining the causes of the rebellion and why it was justified. I shocked the teacher by being the only student (ever in his career) who actually argued that it was unjustified. He gave me an A, but he did call me a "Tory creep".
Good man Aaron, standing up for your point of view - and often the best course to swim against the tide of general acceptance of the popularly received view - more likely to stand out that way, as long as they don't drown you first lol
To be fair, George III was nothing like the absolute monarch Charles I wanted to be - thanks to the English Revolution in the C17th. :D ;)
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Honestly I didn't do it to shock or stand out. I always thought it was amazingly cheeky of us. Washington starts the war while trying to steal land to speculate on, Britain foots the bill, and then the colonists have the nerve to gripe when asked to pay for a (very small) part of it. I know that is a gross simplification, but for crying out loud we were still paying far less in taxes than the folks back home in Britain.
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I tend to see the American Revolution as less about Mel Gibson-style teary-eyed FREEDOM! and TYRANNY! and all that rot, and more like a disagreement between friends over dividing up a restaurant bill (that got a bit out of hand).
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Honestly I didn't do it to shock or stand out. I always thought it was amazingly cheeky of us. Washington starts the war while trying to steal land to speculate on, Britain foots the bill, and then the colonists have the nerve to gripe when asked to pay for a (very small) part of it. I know that is a gross simplification, but for crying out loud we were still paying far less in taxes than the folks back home in Britain.
Actually, that sumes it up extremely well, GW even cleared off for a while until he thought he could start making good on his dodgy "investments". But let's not forget, we were all British citizens then :)
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I tend to see the American Revolution as less about Mel Gibson-style teary-eyed FREEDOM! and TYRANNY! and all that rot, and more like a disagreement between friends over dividing up a restaurant bill (that got a bit out of hand).
Brilliantly put Plynkes 8)
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I tend to see the American Revolution as less about Mel Gibson-style teary-eyed FREEDOM! and TYRANNY! and all that rot, and more like a disagreement between friends over dividing up a restaurant bill (that got a bit out of hand).
Best summary of the AWI I have ever seen! lol