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Title: vehicule weathering
Post by: tsar1701 on 06 May 2010, 01:26:00 PM
Hi everbody,
here's my second test of vehicule weathering.

Is it realist ?
Any comments are welcome.  :)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_u-nYQjb4kE0/S-KtF4yg2aI/AAAAAAAADhw/txrQ_RpoIMo/AC-lancia5.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_u-nYQjb4kE0/S-KtGcMk5BI/AAAAAAAADh4/6Irm1vPxoHY/AC-lancia6.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_u-nYQjb4kE0/S-KtDQ8thLI/AAAAAAAADhQ/Kfbve0a_40s/s912/AC-lancia1.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_u-nYQjb4kE0/S-KtD8PnrqI/AAAAAAAADhY/2_VmoB69MIg/s912/AC-lancia2.jpg)
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: Hammers on 06 May 2010, 01:36:59 PM
That's a real beauty! Did you use the Maskol trick for the peeling paint?
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: tsar1701 on 06 May 2010, 01:45:36 PM
Thanks  :)

Yes it was maskol.
I saw another method on the web with water and cooking salt, but it need waterproof paint and I have only acrylic.
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: Ignatieff on 06 May 2010, 02:21:45 PM
That's a real beauty! Did you use the Maskol trick for the peeling paint?

What's the Maskol trick?  That's a fabulous finish!
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: Mr.J on 06 May 2010, 02:26:22 PM
That looks absolutely spot on!
A walkthrough of the techniques you used would be good.
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: cheetor on 06 May 2010, 02:35:40 PM

Very impressive, nice work!


A walkthrough of the techniques you used would be good.

Seconded.
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: tsar1701 on 06 May 2010, 02:41:26 PM
What's the Maskol trick?  That's a fabulous finish!

It's a sort of liquid latex, you put it between two coats of paint, then you remove it to make visible the color of the first coat.
(hope my english is comprehensive)

That looks absolutely spot on!
A walkthrough of the techniques you used would be good.

Very impressive, nice work!


Seconded.

Thanks a lot :)
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: Malamute on 06 May 2010, 04:50:59 PM
Wow, thats very convincing I like it alot. ;D

Don't have much need to paint rust on things myself, but If I did I would surely try this approach :)
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: former user on 06 May 2010, 05:41:31 PM
Quite good actually
The only thing - the rust colour beneath the Maskol spots is a bit too blueish red.

I did experiment a lot myself before I got it acceptable (for me)
I finally came up with a mix of plain dark brown and orange. The trick is to avoid any blue component in the rust colour.
here are results:
(http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac61/former user_the_anarchist/Railway/RW-WIP/29HMFC-Fallerf.jpg)
(http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac61/former user_the_anarchist/Railway/RW-WIP/28HSUM-Fallerbc.jpg)
(http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac61/former user_the_anarchist/Railway/RW-WIP/Rigadawnmed.jpg)

my impression is that I got the rust colour on the tracks best, while the hopper was corrected because I found it too orange. The sel-discharging hopper is made with salt and water.

As a result I use both salt and water and Maskol - I don't have pictures for this yet
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: Axebreaker on 06 May 2010, 11:12:49 PM
Nice,it's looking pretty effective. 8)

Christopher
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: cuprum on 07 May 2010, 03:52:32 AM
Beautiful work!
But coaches and armored car look abandoned. I seem, it is necessary to show and fresh damages of the paint. The Upper band of the rail must be a polished metal if on she moves the train.  ;)
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: Johnno on 07 May 2010, 04:47:01 AM
Looks good to me!
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: bluewillow on 07 May 2010, 08:24:21 AM
excelent job,

As a suggestion, I would add worn metalic shine on the door hinges and edges to give it a more lived in look.

cheers
matt
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: former user on 07 May 2010, 10:26:56 AM
thx
Sorry, I did not intend to hijack this thread, only to give examples
As a suggestion, I would add worn metalic shine on the door hinges and edges to give it a more lived in look.
I have considered that, and have done it with the wooden cars. The hopper is not yet 100% finished, since I rebuild the first vesrion due to technical problems

But coaches and armored car look abandoned. I seem, it is necessary to show and fresh damages of the paint. The Upper band of the rail must be a polished metal if on she moves the train.

the rail is indeed silver polished on top, not very visible on this picture, but here
(http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac61/former user_the_anarchist/Railway/RW-WIP/track.jpg)
you can see the whole collection here
http://s886.photobucket.com/albums/ac61/former user_the_anarchist/Railway/RW-WIP/
the wooden cars have all freshly peeled paint spots on the wood.
It is meant to look "abandonded" as in a war. I chose a medium state of weathering - there are worse examples than this even from peacetime pictorial reference. The metal waggons are alway very rusted because they are constantly used with loose freight like stones, coal etc which scratch the paint. The waggons are in a better state on the chassis and also the liquid tank.
If You mean the green armoured train, yes, I wanted this to look very used, with damaged paint where it was struck by bullets and ordnance, same as with the armoured car shown above  ;) However I am not 100% content with it and it already has been overworked several times
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: Bako on 08 May 2010, 07:47:52 AM
As a result I use both salt and water and Maskol

For the salt and water technique would one apply the salt to presh paint and later apply salt after the paint has dried to simply dissolve the salt?

The Upper band of the rail must be a polished metal if on she moves the train.  ;)

Indeed. The more used the rail the smarter the shine!
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: Calimero on 08 May 2010, 03:31:21 PM

Look good to me :-*
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: tsar1701 on 10 May 2010, 12:31:44 PM
Thanks for all the comments  :)
I'll try to applie yoour suggestions on my next one: the Garford-Putilov from Mr Coppelstone.

Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: former user on 10 May 2010, 01:46:14 PM
Thanks for all the comments  :)
I'll try to applie yoour suggestions on my next one: the Garford-Putilov from Mr Coppelstone.

please let us participate to Your experience and show the result  :)
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: tsar1701 on 11 May 2010, 11:59:02 AM
sure !
Any comment will be welcome.
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 11 May 2010, 12:07:42 PM
Would this technique be easy to do with normal latex? There's plenty of it at uni. I could stock up now for the summer... :)
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: former user on 11 May 2010, 03:37:53 PM
hard to say
@Admiral Benbow uses some tire repair stuff for bicycles, so I'd say, why not?
the trick is more about in which shapes You can apply it  (surface tension) and can You rubb it off?

otherwise anything could work, even toothpaste or grease just give it a try and show us the results.

I had a hard time experimenting with all the stuff until I got something that suited me
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: tsar1701 on 11 May 2010, 05:59:59 PM
Would this technique be easy to do with normal latex? There's plenty of it at uni. I could stock up now for the summer... :)

Same as former user, hard to say.
In my optinion it'll be okay, as the product must just protect one part and be remove easly when finished painting.
Title: Re: vehicule weathering
Post by: DowVooVoo on 12 May 2010, 02:22:06 AM
very nice