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Title: Subway Platform build (SMALL UPDATE - 9/18/10)
Post by: Big Sexy on 17 May 2010, 07:31:41 PM
Here's the beginning of the underground subway station I'm working on for some pulp gaming.  I'm not sure if it too big a representation.  The minis look tiny in there but might look better when I add some benches and trash cans and stuff.  Is the track too small or is the trench(?) too big.  Basically I want lots of pillars for models to hide and shoot from and rails to leap across.  Mind the gap...and the bullets.

(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab358/BigSexZ_BB/100_2872.jpg)

(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab358/BigSexZ_BB/100_2869.jpg)

(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab358/BigSexZ_BB/100_2870.jpg)
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Aaron on 17 May 2010, 08:18:50 PM
I'm in a large urban subway station daily and this looks right on as far as your proportions go. Man, that will be a fun game!
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: ushistoryprof on 17 May 2010, 09:23:01 PM
Now that looks Cool!
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: dijit on 17 May 2010, 09:33:15 PM
That looks good, looking forwards to seeing some paint on this.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Mancha on 17 May 2010, 10:08:10 PM
Looks great.  You'll have a subway car, with doors, open, on the tracks, right?  And I see advertising posters on the walls.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: dijit on 17 May 2010, 10:42:03 PM
and neon lighting!
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Big Sexy on 17 May 2010, 11:14:35 PM
Thanks for the comments guys. It was looking off to me but sometimes you need another set of eyes.
Looks great.  You'll have a subway car, with doors, open, on the tracks, right?  And I see advertising posters on the walls.

Probably no car at this point for the game I have planned but it would look cool.  Yes, I plan to have posters as well as signs pointing
up to the streets.
and neon lighting!
  Yes, the whole board will constantly flicker with a sickening washed out hue with "bzzzt, bzzzzzzt" sound effects or we'll just play in my basement.   ;D

Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: archangel1 on 18 May 2010, 12:18:04 AM
Coming along nicely but I think your trench is too wide.  If you take a look at the attached pics, you can see that it is barely wider than the car itself.  You can see the third rail is almost directly under the far edge of the car (silver train) with probably less than a two-foot gap between it and the wall.  The 'Red Rocket' shows it from the other side in an open-air station.  The empty station pic was taken in the Toronto 'ghost' station, now used mainly for movie shoots.  Guillermo del Toro (Hellboy) shot Mimic there.  Notice, there are no ties under the rails in the stations, either, only 'fishplates' on concrete.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Big Sexy on 18 May 2010, 04:24:58 AM
Yes, I was planning on adding some diamond plate along the edge as in the top picture and what I might do is have it come out a bit to take up some space.  You can see in the second picture there is a bit of space underneath the platform.  In fact I believe there was a story a year or two ago where someone had fallen on the tracks and someone had jumped down and dragged them aside before the train got them.  It would be nice for the models to have someplace to dive into should they find themselves on the tracks.  Like that would ever happen, bwuhahaaaaahaahhahaaaaaaa.  Thanks for the pics.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: archangel1 on 18 May 2010, 05:38:02 AM
There is a recess under the near edge of the platform that's just wide enough to crouch under in an emergency.  Wouldn't want to be be carrying any excess weight, though, if you did find yourself down there!
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: former user on 18 May 2010, 08:37:18 AM
looks pretty cool and convincing to me.

What's the platform in the middle for?
And
have You considered stairways?
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Dr. The Viking on 18 May 2010, 08:52:14 AM
Wow!

Very nice modern scenery!

I agree with Duncan - Flickering Lights!
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: supervike on 18 May 2010, 01:40:38 PM
That's awesome!

I immediately thought of Hellboy, the Matrix, hell even GHOST!

Wonderful stuff.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Black Cat Bases on 18 May 2010, 01:42:38 PM
How about a subway kiosk ala Underworld and newspapers/cans on the track, But other than that very cool. would love to play on a board like that.
Ben
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Uncle Mike on 18 May 2010, 03:43:09 PM
Great idea and looks fab so far!!! can't wait to see more...
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: archangel1 on 18 May 2010, 04:04:45 PM
...What's the platform in the middle for?...

Here in Toronto, the middle 'platform' usually holds steel support girders for the roof, as well as safety cages for trackwalkers who may be on patrol.

Or, maybe, to paraphrase Victor Borge's explanation for the three piano pedals, ''The one in the middle is to separate the other two''.  :D
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Michi on 18 May 2010, 04:19:25 PM
Warriors, come out and play...
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: former user on 18 May 2010, 05:00:35 PM
''The one in the middle is to separate the other two''.  :D

 :D
THX
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Aaron on 18 May 2010, 06:08:18 PM
We've got a center island like that in the station I use also. Aside from having pillars supporting the roof ours seems to serve no particular purpose.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Doomsdave on 19 May 2010, 07:18:19 PM
Warriors, come out and play...

Dammit.  You beat me to it.  This would be great for a Warriors type game.  Didn't someone on here do some Warriors gangs?
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: kidterminal on 20 May 2010, 06:31:22 AM
Hi these pictures of one of the oldest stations in NYC might help you out.
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/kidterminal/LAF%20hosted%20images/OldChambers3.jpg)
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/kidterminal/LAF%20hosted%20images/OldChambers1.jpg)
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/kidterminal/LAF%20hosted%20images/OldChambers4.jpg)
Rob
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: former user on 20 May 2010, 08:16:01 AM
Hi these pictures of one of the oldest stations in NYC might help you out.

wow, this looks spooky
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: myincubliss on 20 May 2010, 11:07:40 AM
How big is that board? 2' x 2'? I may have to shamelessly rob inspiration (aka 'wholesale') from you...
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Michi on 20 May 2010, 05:57:42 PM
wow, this looks spooky

Then you´ll love this site: http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: joroas on 20 May 2010, 08:40:20 PM
Damn, I just spent an hour wading through that site.  Nice find.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Michi on 20 May 2010, 09:14:28 PM
Damn, I just spent an hour wading through that site.  Nice find.

I spent several hours there yet. Most inspiring! You´ll find abandoned NYC subway stations too if you google for "ghost stations"...
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: commissarmoody on 21 May 2010, 02:47:48 AM
you should look up the Moscow Metro, I took a trip there a while back and its vary pretty. Even with all its old communest era art.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Big Sexy on 21 May 2010, 05:50:50 AM
looks pretty cool and convincing to me.

What's the platform in the middle for?
And
have You considered stairways?

Really no reason for the middle, just though it should be there.  there will be stairs in the archways and am considering putting some on the other side maybe coming down from the sides.

How big is that board? 2' x 2'? I may have to shamelessly rob inspiration (aka 'wholesale') from you...

Yes, it is 2' x 2', intended for .45 Adventure. Wholesale all you want.

Then you´ll love this site: http://underground-history.co.uk/front.php

Very cool.  And thanks for those pics Kid.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: archangel1 on 21 May 2010, 12:26:22 PM
...The empty station pic was taken in the Toronto 'ghost' station, now used mainly for movie shoots...

Just as a coincidence...due to turnout repairs on the line, all east-west trains this long weekend will be rerouted through our ghost station! It's been closed since 1966.  Wonder if I can find an excuse to take a trip downtown over the next couple of days? 'Ghost' may also be literal in this case.  Apparently it's supposed to be haunted, as well as abandoned.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Red Orc on 21 May 2010, 07:22:06 PM
... Victor Borge's explanation for the three piano pedals, ''The one in the middle is to separate the other two''.  :D

I love the LAF. Name another forum where people quote Victor Borge...
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: kidterminal on 22 May 2010, 08:15:07 AM
Very cool.  And thanks for those pics Kid.
I can take more or pictures of specific things if you like I pass through there every day.

Rob
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: uti long smile on 22 May 2010, 05:38:35 PM
I want one of those... :o
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 31 May 2010, 04:42:08 PM
looks great... if you are going to add carriages that can be entered, I've leave the trench as it is and make your tracks wider...
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Thom on 08 June 2010, 05:41:27 AM
Lovely! Looking forward to seeing more.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: myincubliss on 05 September 2010, 11:31:39 PM
Did any more ever get done on this board? I'd love to see...
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Alfrik on 06 September 2010, 02:26:22 AM
The columns need to be removable to be replaced with shot up stubs and rubble! Every time there is a gun battle, each side manges to shoot the columns and not each other , to the point the colums collapse! Mahahahaha, destructing terrain.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Big Sexy on 06 September 2010, 05:49:35 AM
Sadly no, I haven't got any more done which is pretty disappointing considering the time span.  Problem is I'm good at getting inspired to start a project, but am totally lacking on the follow through.  I have a whole slew of half finished terrain projects and primed miniatures I could use as an example.  The subway is not totally shelved however.  I want to go back and do some more scribing to make the tiles smaller which is pretty daunting.  Then some plactic work on beams and the edges above the tracks.  I think I found a decent glue to bond plastic to foam.  I wasn't sure if white glue or wood glue would hold plastic well and I'm pretty sure superglue eats through foam.  I tested some Elmer's Ultimate High Performance Glue which is their version of Gorilla glue and it held pretty good.  I had to apply a bit of pressure to pop a piece of plastic from the foam and it took some foam with it.  Anyway, I'm going to get cracking on it.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: myincubliss on 06 September 2010, 07:54:16 PM
Haha, I'm exactly the same - starting at least three times as many miniatures as I finish, and I've only got two pieces of terrain that I actually finished... Let us know if you do any more though, as it really is quite a splendid board...
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Sangennaru on 06 September 2010, 08:33:20 PM
that reminds me of max payne's first level. do you know it? :)
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Big Sexy on 07 September 2010, 05:40:48 AM
I played Max Payne a long time ago but can't recall the subway or much else for that matter.  Fun tho'.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: mrborges on 12 September 2010, 02:58:50 AM
That is seriously impressive!
I've always thought a subway platform would make for some great battle sequences in a minis game.
Now I get to see it!
Keep it up.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build
Post by: Big Sexy on 18 September 2010, 07:36:05 PM
Did a little more work on the platform.  Added some support beams between the tracks.  Put a ledge on either side of the tracks along with some diamonds plate on the boarding side.  Put some stairs in the entry ways. Added a third rail down the middle which I know probably isn't accurate.  I wanted to have it on the outside but wasn't much room on ties so this was easier.  Made some spots where the tiles have fell off just to show some neglect.

(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab358/BigSexZ_BB/102_3219.jpg)

(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab358/BigSexZ_BB/102_3221.jpg)

(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab358/BigSexZ_BB/102_3224.jpg)

(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab358/BigSexZ_BB/102_3222.jpg)

(http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab358/BigSexZ_BB/102_3223.jpg)
Title: Re: Subway Platform build (SMALL UPDATE - 9/18/10)
Post by: myincubliss on 18 September 2010, 08:22:05 PM
 :-* :-*

This is looking amazing, keep up the good work! The little details like the loose tiles are great!
Title: Re: Subway Platform build (SMALL UPDATE - 9/18/10)
Post by: kidterminal on 18 September 2010, 08:47:48 PM
Wow the diamond plate really makes it realistic.

Rob
Title: Re: Subway Platform build (SMALL UPDATE - 9/18/10)
Post by: Colonel Tubby on 19 September 2010, 08:57:39 PM
This is a great project, don't know how I've missed it!

Has great deal of uses from gangster shootouts to Werewolf hunting Vampires!

Can't wait to see the finished product!
Title: Re: Subway Platform build (SMALL UPDATE - 9/18/10)
Post by: uti long smile on 12 December 2010, 03:21:46 PM
Great additions. Keep 'em coming.
Title: Re: Subway Platform build (SMALL UPDATE - 9/18/10)
Post by: ballistic_bro on 14 December 2010, 11:45:38 PM
I missed this before, this is shaping up to be a nice board. :)
Title: Re: Subway Platform build (SMALL UPDATE - 9/18/10)
Post by: Rob_bresnen on 15 December 2010, 12:02:08 AM
Great stuff- lets see more!
Title: Re: Subway Platform build (SMALL UPDATE - 9/18/10)
Post by: widgren on 15 December 2010, 10:32:20 AM
it looks great! if you paint it up in the style of the pics of th NY subway then you have a gorgeous piece of gameboard:)