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Title: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: phreedh on 23 May 2010, 02:37:43 PM
I've been taking inventory of sorts, and unearthed these... anyone know what they are?
(http://www.godzilla.se/tmp/trades/unknown.jpg)

The two guys to the right have no markings on their bases. The left guy reads GW 84 (or 1984, don't have it in front of me) and what seems to be "UGBASH". Googling a little, I see he's mentioned as a White Dwarf personality in WD#50 from... 1984. =) Haven't been able to find him on SOL or CCM-wiki. Anyone got pics/info?
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: phreedh on 23 May 2010, 02:43:07 PM
Found a mail order flyer entry for him:
http://www.solegends.com/citfly/citfly84/198402/images50/fly8402-fx1-50.htm
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Hammers on 23 May 2010, 03:17:54 PM
Miniatures sculpting has, for the most part, come a long way since then.
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: phreedh on 23 May 2010, 03:20:44 PM
Miniatures sculpting has, for the most part, come a long way since then.
True that... I do like the bug-eyed freak to the right though. If only I know what he was, I could paint him the appropriate colours. =)
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: manic _miner on 23 May 2010, 04:24:29 PM
 I think the bugeyed one is a bugbear,dont hold me to that though..I used to have him,sure he came in a monsters box set.
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Svennn on 23 May 2010, 04:42:25 PM
I think it is a bugbear too

http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/c2monset.htm
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Red Orc on 23 May 2010, 05:32:11 PM
If you're still looking for info on Ugbash, his stats for Runequest (IInd Edition I think) and AD&D were in White Dwarf 50, with a little bit of background info for use as an NPC. He's a sort of Chaos Warrior-cum-slaver, who in the old backstory to White Dwarf managed the Mail Order Department (I think).

I want to say that the one that isn't Ugbash and isn't the Bugbear is a Hobgoblin, but I don't know why I think that.

The page Svenn posted with the Bugbear also has a Chaos Warrior called Vandamar. I happen to know that was the name of the first D&D character Manic_Miner rolled up, I guess shortly after he bought the boxed set (about 1983 would be right, MM?)
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: phreedh on 23 May 2010, 05:35:08 PM
Yep, that's him - it's a bug bear... no wonder he's bug-eyed! =) Thanks guys!

I think I'll paint it up as some sort of troll half breed, depending on how it cleans up. It's a pretty neat model in hand, really. Ugly bastard, but he's got potential.

Thanks for the extra fluff on Ugbash, Red Orc!
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: manic _miner on 23 May 2010, 06:05:23 PM
 The Bugbear miniature would make a great troll halfbreed.

 I cant remember seeing the one in the middle.He might not be a citadel miniature.

 I still have a few of the white dwarf box set miniatures.

 @Red Orc you have a great memory for all things old.Still never really got into RPG's.My brother play's/played quite a few of them though.

 I just love the little miniatures.

 Wait until you see what I have to release in June  :D.
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: manic _miner on 23 May 2010, 06:32:12 PM
 Here you go if you want a full set.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITADEL-MINATURES-DUNGEON-MONSTER-STARTER-SET-/250637943133?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item3a5b2f815d
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Sangennaru on 23 May 2010, 08:31:21 PM
Found a mail order flyer entry for him:
http://www.solegends.com/citfly/citfly84/198402/images50/fly8402-fx1-50.htm

lol, there's also the hasslefrian thrudd the barbarian! :)
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Doomhippie on 23 May 2010, 08:37:16 PM
The bugbear's name by the way is Gobslob. I remember him fondly, as one of my cousins used the miniature for his D&D character in the early 80s. Don't ask me, why we never had any objections to the critter in our group...  :D
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Heyer on 23 May 2010, 11:52:32 PM
The first one can be found here,in the WHITE DWARFS PERSONALITIES BOX SET:

http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/c2wdperson.htm

The second one i don“t think it is a citadel mini.
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Erny on 24 May 2010, 08:48:15 AM
Are you sure you don't have any lead rot there phreedh? I know some of the alloys used with old castings are quite dark but the first and last mini there look suspicious.  At the very least make sure your undercoat is complete and covers the bottom of  the base as well. If there is any graininess to the mini at all just get rid.
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: phreedh on 24 May 2010, 09:13:33 AM
Are you sure you don't have any lead rot there phreedh? I know some of the alloys used with old castings are quite dark but the first and last mini there look suspicious.  At the very least make sure your undercoat is complete and covers the bottom of  the base as well. If there is any graininess to the mini at all just get rid.
Quite possible. =) I got these recently in job lots. Correct me if I'm wrong, but lead rot doesn't spread like a virus, ravaging your entire collection - it just affects all susceptible models under certain storage conditions?

The guy to the right is pretty grainy, hence my "will see how it cleans up". The one on the left does not look affected, just dark but unblemished surface. There's no dusty residue to any of them...
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Hammers on 24 May 2010, 10:08:41 AM
Quite possible. =) I got these recently in job lots. Correct me if I'm wrong, but lead rot doesn't spread like a virus, ravaging your entire collection - it just affects all susceptible models under certain storage conditions?

The guy to the right is pretty grainy, hence my "will see how it cleans up". The one on the left does not look affected, just dark but unblemished surface. There's no dusty residue to any of them...


As a matter of fact I think it can jump from one mini to another as the process is a self feeding chemical process. I think the conditions you store old +75% lead minis is more the culprit than the proximity of afflicted miniatures. Humidity and environmental acidity are the main culprits lead carbonization.
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 24 May 2010, 10:47:34 AM
I'd give them an undercoat, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: phreedh on 24 May 2010, 11:20:19 AM
I'll try to paint the bug-eyed freak, the others I'll just chuck. Unless someone wants them, that is. =)
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Red Orc on 24 May 2010, 11:52:25 AM
 :o

You're going to chuck Ugbash Facesplitter?!?

I don't need him, I have one of my own, but even so...
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 24 May 2010, 01:41:39 PM
Send them to Thansants, I'm sure he'd love em.  :)
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: phreedh on 24 May 2010, 01:45:37 PM
Send them to Thansants, I'm sure he'd love em.  :)
Allready sending a few minis his way... Steve, if Rob is right and you'd like a bit of Ugbash, let me know and I'll include him.
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Thantsants on 24 May 2010, 06:28:38 PM
Hehe - he did catch my bug eye!  ;D

Don't mind if I do!
Title: Re: Help me identify a few old minis
Post by: Peter pumkinhead on 31 May 2010, 03:08:58 PM
The mini in the middle is a middle earth orc of red eye but i cant for the life of me remember who made it, i have about 30 of them amongst other lotr stuff i can't identify all from the early 8o's.

Edit.
Found it, no surprise as it was in the asgard orc horde box only a line drawing in lost minis wiki
FG-5 Giant orc in plate armour
got 28 of them  ::)