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Title: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: gloriousbattle on 04 June 2010, 12:37:28 PM
War, Sherlock Holmes, VSF, whatever.

Mine:

First Men in the Moon
Khartoum
55 Days at Peking

Yours?
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: RapierMiniatures on 04 June 2010, 12:51:54 PM
Man who Would be King.

Can't beat it really.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: zuluwar on 04 June 2010, 12:52:12 PM
for me

zulu dawn

four feather (1939)

fort saganne with gerard depardieu

gunga din

le beau geste

 a french serie => mission marchand (expeditionnary from the french column go to fachoda)

the legion story ( with terence hill ) a great batlle in the end of the film

adventure in phillipines (with gary cooper)

best regard

gerard



Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: NickNascati on 04 June 2010, 12:56:17 PM
Easy,  "The Man Who Would Be King"
         "Gunga Din"
         "Four Feathers (1939)"
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Orctrader on 04 June 2010, 01:00:58 PM
"Gaslight."

Though I like both versions I slightly prefer the one with Anton Walbrook.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: VSF Gamer on 04 June 2010, 01:45:32 PM
Most of my favorites have already been listed but I must add Lord Jim. Another is 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea for VSF.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 04 June 2010, 01:51:19 PM
55 Days at Peking

Sherlock Holmes (the new one without a doubt)

The Man Who would be King

Zulu Dawn

Pretty much in that order  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: General Roos on 04 June 2010, 02:21:32 PM
Greystoke - the legend of Tarzan

From Hell
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: shadowking1957 on 04 June 2010, 02:48:52 PM
Well im sorry but my favorites are

The Land That Time Forgot (1975)
At the Earth's Core (1976)
The People That Time Forgot (1977)
Warlords of Atlantis (1978)

they are inspiring, and Peter  Cushing in at the earths core is brilliant.

Tony
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 04 June 2010, 03:00:33 PM
Ranked from most favourite, going down:

20'000 Leagues (with James Mason as Nemo, the Disney version)
Journey to the Centre of the Earth (with James Mason)
The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes

Following that, I wouldn't want to really rank them; too difficult because I sometimes like others more depending on what mood I'm in. And although it certainly isn't Victorian, but hits that "Costume Adventure" vein, "The Assassination Bureau" because it's such a hoot.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Plynkes on 04 June 2010, 03:40:20 PM
The Land That Time Forgot (1975)
The People That Time Forgot (1977)

Those aren't set in the Victorian era.

Mine is Unforgiven.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: THE CID on 04 June 2010, 03:49:48 PM
 FROM HELL.
ZULU.
THE MAN WHO WOULD BE KING.
CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE. [ TREVOR HOWARD VERSION ]
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Svennn on 04 June 2010, 04:03:01 PM
Young Sherlock Holmes ;)
Once Upon A Time In China
Fistfull of Dollars

Dark Beginnings TV movie
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 04 June 2010, 05:06:13 PM
Ooo, Once upon a time in China, good choice, forgot that one  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Ignatieff on 04 June 2010, 05:41:30 PM
Zulu
Zulu Dawn
The Man Who Would be King
Charge of the Light Brigade
Four Feathers (1939)


Anyone seen Laurel and Hardy in 'Bonnie Scotland'?  some absoultely fabulous military scenes set in the NW Frontier (inter-war mind you).
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Colonel Tubby on 04 June 2010, 05:43:53 PM
Plynkes
I didn't want to point that out. It is quite bad enough they have Doug McClure in them.

Are you trying to say that 'Warlord of Atlantis' of is pants?  :'(

How dare you Sir!  lol
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 04 June 2010, 05:59:33 PM
As well as the other obvious ones mentioned such as Zulu, The (1939) Four Feathers etc etc, I also enjoyed Khartoum and Young Winston. Some good action scenes in both. Sergeants Three was also very enjoyable, as was The Man Who Would Be King. Anything based on Kipling, in fact.

We doneed more Victorian films with gunboats in, though  ;)
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: colin_baillie on 04 June 2010, 06:56:39 PM
I'm surprised that nobody on here ever mentions "Jules Vernes' Rocket to the Moon"!

For me this is THE Victorian Science Fiction movie. Phineas T Barnum and friends finance the first flight to the moon but find the task a little above them. They attempt to blast their rocket into orbit from a massive gun barrel built into the side of a Welsh mountain, but money troubles, spies and saboteurs ensure that the plan is doomed before it starts.

It stars Burl Ives as Phineas T. Barnum, Troy Donahue as Gaylord Sullivan, Gert Fröbe as Professor Siegfried von Bulow, Lionel Jeffries as Sir Charles Dillworthy and Terry-Thomas as Captain Sir Harry Washington-Smythe.

Best bits... Professor Von Bulow's inventions, including a Prussian Helmet Cannon that nearly kills the Kaiser, and the highlight of the film... Terry Thomas' gas powered car that he "refills" using street light gas. Lionel Jeffries "I'm not sure I approve of a vehicle that relies on stolen gas?" Terry Thomas "That's not the point. It's very economical!"
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: gloriousbattle on 04 June 2010, 07:25:16 PM
I'm surprised that nobody on here ever mentions "Jules Vernes' Rocket to the Moon"!

Isn't that also the one where Terry Thomas is about to roll a huge boulder down on the heroine, and when Jeffries objects, Thomas replies, "It won't kill her, it'll just stun her a little."?

Great film!
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Ignatieff on 04 June 2010, 07:55:16 PM
Isn't that also the one where Terry Thomas is about to roll a huge boulder down on the heroine, and when Jeffries objects, Thomas replies, "It won't kill her, it'll just stun her a little."?

Great film!

hmmmm.  Need to look that one up.  All Terry Thomas movies are tops
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Bako on 04 June 2010, 07:57:14 PM
The Land That Time Forgot and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea are the only ones that come to mind at the moment for me.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 04 June 2010, 08:10:55 PM
hmmmm.  Need to look that one up.  All Terry Thomas movies are tops

He is (was?) the arch cad! A great comedy actor  :)
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Cory on 04 June 2010, 08:41:06 PM
My favorite, mainly because it was the movie that introduced me to VSF when I was 7, is Disney's Island at the Top of the World. After all it mixes Victorian bravado with Vikings!
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Ignatieff on 04 June 2010, 09:01:19 PM
He is (was?) the arch cad! A great comedy actor  :)

'Ding Dong!'
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: archangel1 on 04 June 2010, 11:58:30 PM
..."Jules Vernes' Rocket to the Moon"!...

In the same vein, and just coming in at the wire (1901), First Men in the Moon, a real classic.

The Wrong Box, with Michael Caine, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, among others (amazing cast, including a Dame and a couple of Knights!)

One I haven't seen for decades - East of Sudan, with Anthony Quayle, although it unfortunately 'borrows' considerable footage from The Four Feathers.  Jenny Agutter's first movie. 

Just a bit too late for Victorian (1905) but definitely colonial, Northwest Frontier, with Kenneth More and Lauren Bacall.  I think the train engine is named after the Queen, though, Gawd bless 'er.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Helen on 05 June 2010, 01:47:07 AM
In order:

Far Pavillion,

Stardust, and

Utu.

Helen
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Fjodin on 05 June 2010, 05:34:47 AM
Zulu
Man who Would be King
Gunga din
Khartoum
55 Days at Peking

but actually I like all colonial/victorian/acw movies/wild west This is my favourite time period (1860-1914)
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Ignatieff on 05 June 2010, 08:59:49 AM
As well as the other obvious ones mentioned such as Zulu, The (1939) Four Feathers etc etc, I also enjoyed Khartoum and Young Winston. Some good action scenes in both. Sergeants Three was also very enjoyable, as was The Man Who Would Be King. Anything based on Kipling, in fact.

We doneed more Victorian films with gunboats in, though  ;)

Prompted by this, I made the family watch 'Young Winston' again last night.  Apart from the Omdurman scenes its pretty weak.  Always a shame when you remember something as better than it was  :'(
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Captain Blood on 05 June 2010, 09:44:27 AM
'Zulu'

Nothing else comes close  ;)

Although the Stewart Granger 'The Prisoner of Zenda' is a personal favourite of mine, and I do agree 'The Man Who Would Be King' takes some beating for Kipling-esque atmosphere.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: archangel1 on 05 June 2010, 01:02:18 PM
Archangel
1925-6 I think so a couple of decades out...

You may very well be right but I was going by this statement in a review - 'During a bloody revolt in 1905 India, a British army officer guides a young Hindu prince to safety on a dilapidated train.'

I can't remember where I've buried my copy to doublecheck.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: argsilverson on 06 June 2010, 01:00:02 AM
I also like most of the films already mentioned above but there are a couple of other films, set in Ewardian time, but could be counted as "Victorian" or be used as a good inspiration like:
Mary Poppins
Those magnificent men in their flying machines
and similar ones.
and a whole bundle of Jules Verne based films made by the czechs, (in front of the flag, something about a comet and space travel of Sahara etc).
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 06 June 2010, 01:48:39 AM
The Man Who Would be King
Steamboy
The Time Machine, both versions, Guy Pierce is an excellent actor.
The Warlords of Atlantis
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Will Bailie on 06 June 2010, 08:04:39 AM
Great suggestions already.

If you can find a copy somewhere there was a CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) miniseries from 1979 or so called 'Riel' that was pretty darn good.  Dramatic story, relatively few inaccuracies (Louis Riel's story was pretty impressive as it was, so that reduced the need for the screen play writers to 'embellish' it).  Quite the cast, too, for a Canadian made for tv movie, including Christopher Plummer, William Shatner, Leslie Nielson and more.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Pentaro on 06 June 2010, 09:09:45 AM
Mountains of the Moon

Edit: I tried to link the trailer, but the video itself appears in my post, instead of just the link :-[
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 06 June 2010, 09:10:22 AM
The Time Machine, both versions, Guy Pierce is an excellent actor.

I'd initially dismissed him as just another Aussie soap actor, but you are right. From what I've seen of him in post Neighbours he is very good.

For some reason I've never seen his version of the Time Machine  :?   Must get that sorted.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 06 June 2010, 09:14:02 AM
Prompted by this, I made the family watch 'Young Winston' again last night.  Apart from the Omdurman scenes its pretty weak.  Always a shame when you remember something as better than it was  :'(

Oh! I must admit it's been a good few years since I last watched it. That's not good news, then. A bit like "Cromwell" which I saw at the pictures in the early 70s. I loved it as a nipper, but in later years I find I can't watch it  :(
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Ignatieff on 06 June 2010, 09:25:11 AM
Oh! I must admit it's been a good few years since I last watched it. That's not good news, then. A bit like "Cromwell" which I saw at the pictures in the early 70s. I loved it as a nipper, but in later years I find I can't watch it  :(

I thought Cromwell was pants from Day 1....those battle scenes.  All lined up nice and regular like and then 'WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!'  a rushing mass of half-cut extras across the screen!  Urgh.  Young Winston is much better than that, despite what I said.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: mondria on 06 June 2010, 01:07:59 PM
Sherlock Holmes adventures
From hell
Sweeny Todd (new one)
Also Fullmetal Alchemist not really Victorian as its in an other dimension but right time frame   
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Galloping Major on 06 June 2010, 03:48:16 PM
Excluding Westerns I'd say, in no particular order:

Zulu
Zulu Dawn
The Man Who Would be King
Mountains of the Moon
The Proposition
Breaker Morant (although it's just about sliding into the Edwardian period at the end of the Boer War).


I've probably left some out, but I'll have to think about that a bit more.


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: von der Tann on 06 June 2010, 04:32:34 PM
Probably everyone will start laughing at me now ... but I like

[wiki]The Deceivers[/wiki] (1988), starring Pierce Brosnan

Actually I like it very much. All the other favorite movies have already been quoted, so no need to list them again.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Galloping Major on 06 June 2010, 05:39:23 PM
Oh yes, the Deceivers, that's one that should certainly have been on my list.  8)

Great film from a great Masters novel.


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Old Goat on 07 June 2010, 09:48:38 AM
Charge of the Light Brigade (Tony Richardson version)
Zulu (Well it's almost the perfect war film)
The Man who would be King
Breaker Morant (No one misses a slice off a cut loaf sir)

I was pleasantly surprised by the new Sherlock Holmes and have yet to see the Ballad of Mangal Pandy...

But the best, for a number of reasons, no doubt most of them wrong, has to be....drumroll pleeeeas....

ROYAL FLASH Henry Cooper as Tom Cribb, Oliver Reed as Bismark and of course Malcolm McDowell as the man himself...Worth watching for the 'defence' of Pipers fort alone...

I remain your humble and obedient servant.

Old Goat.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Galloping Major on 07 June 2010, 12:49:50 PM

But the best, for a number of reasons, no doubt most of them wrong, has to be....drumroll pleeeeas....

ROYAL FLASH Henry Cooper as Tom Cribb, Oliver Reed as Bismark and of course Malcolm McDowell as the man himself...Worth watching for the 'defence' of Pipers fort alone...

I'd agree but I've always been a big Flashman fan, the only thing I didn't like about the film - and probably one reason no more were made, was Malcolm McDowell as Flashy.  :-[

The whole premise of the books is that Flashman appears to be the archetypal Victorian hero, a handsomely moutachioed, dark, six-footer etc; while unfortunately McDowell looks the very picture of the inner Flashman - a little scaredy-cat, where's the fun in that - maybe it was to make it easier for cinemagoers who had never read the books?  ::)
They should have cast someone who looked the part, Timothy Dalton or the like.

Other than that, a good film - especially our Henry, Olly Reed etc. The look of it is really good.  :)
 
I'd put "The First Great train Robbery" with Sean Connery in there as a similarly good-looking romp.  8)


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on 07 June 2010, 02:59:35 PM
Also a huge fan of all thing Flashman, but cant really agree with views on the film, McDowel was miscast, I agree, but the whole film is of its time, and owes more to Morcambe & Wise in its direction, than to the serious (?) nature of the books... too slapstick for me....

And talking of films from great books, how about League Of Extrondinary Gentlemen ( I know its no where near the books, and Alan Moore HATES it ) still has all the elements we love...

But back to films....

Charge of the Light Brigade  - Trevor Howard as Cardigan was genius.




Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Galloping Major on 07 June 2010, 06:07:55 PM

But back to films....

Charge of the Light Brigade  - Trevor Howard as Cardigan was genius.



Great film, a pity they insisted on mixing the Light Brigade uniforms about a bit too much, but great nontheless.

My favourite character was Norman Rossington as the cashiered and re-enlisted former sergeant:
"Precious little self respect some of these officers."  lol

That's from memory, so if I got the quote a bit wrong, who cares.......


Just to go off on a tangent here, how about great books about the Victorian period that should have been made into a film:

The Siege of Krishnapur by J G Farrell

Anyone who hasn't read it yet - go on - you owe it to yourself  :D


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Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 08 June 2010, 06:27:28 PM
Quote
Just to go off on a tangent here, how about great books about the Victorian period that should have been made into a film:

War of the Worlds

It's never been done right! (and probably never will  >:( )

cheers

James
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Justin Buck on 08 June 2010, 07:20:26 PM
I think my favorite movies would be:
Zulu -I don't care if its mostly Hollywood
Zulu Dawn
The Wind and the Lion
Rough Riders
Sherlock Holmes -the new one
A Fist Full of Dollars, For a Few More Dollars, and the Good, the Bad, the Ugly -for my nameless bounty hunter fix
The Wolfman -the new one
Dracula
Tombstone
Just to name a few off the top of my head
Justin
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: ushistoryprof on 08 June 2010, 07:47:01 PM
War of the Worlds

It's never been done right! (and probably never will  >:( )

cheers

James
  Oh, how true and so sad.  Why can't some one do this right!

As to other movies most have been listed, I might add "Lives of the Bengal Lancers", "Drums", and "Northwest Mounted Police"  fun to watch for the uniforms and battle sequences.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Galloping Major on 09 June 2010, 01:05:27 PM
Old Goat
Did anyone else (apart from me) fancy Jill Bennett who was playing Fanny Dubberly in that film?


Not quite what you'd call conventionally pretty, but she did have a certain something, especially in the 1850s undies  ;)

Peter Bowles was good as her hubby, didn't fancy him at all though  lol


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Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Galloping Major on 09 June 2010, 01:08:26 PM
War of the Worlds

It's never been done right! (and probably never will  >:( )

cheers

James

I've always thought that would be brilliant; Hollywood always seems to find it more viable to set these things in "present day" sad, cos 1890s a la the recent Sherlock Holmes would be wonderful.


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 09 June 2010, 01:57:32 PM
I've always thought that would be brilliant; Hollywood always seems to find it more viable to set these things in "present day" sad, cos 1890s a la the recent Sherlock Holmes would be wonderful.

Yes, I agree. Quiet, safe England about to been shaken to it's very foundations. Cracking stuff  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Plynkes on 09 June 2010, 02:23:17 PM
Jill Bennett was playing Fanny Duberly? I thought she was meant to be one of the horses.

Can't say I liked that part of it. They made her seem like a sex-mad airhead bimbo with no opinions of her own (with all that "Duberly says..." stuff). Something of a disservice to the real Fanny Duberly, one might venture. Still a very enjoyable film though (I rarely get agitated about trousers, so that part doesn't bother me much).

Her Crimean journal is available online, if anyone is interested:
>>link<< (http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/duberly/journal/journal.html)
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: gloriousbattle on 09 June 2010, 06:18:36 PM
Oh yes, the Deceivers, that's one that should certainly have been on my list.  8)

Great film from a great Masters novel.


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com

Just saw this one through for the first time because of your post.  Great stuff!  If I become a Thug, do I get to "date" Kali too? ;D
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Tommy20 on 09 June 2010, 06:58:30 PM
Agree with most of those listed above, and would add The Lighthorsemen.  Although not Victorian, it has all the elements I look for in a Victorian advernture.
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: argsilverson on 10 June 2010, 12:29:38 PM
Gentlemen and ladies,

On my earlier post on this I did mention some Czech films inspired by Jules Verne stories.
fellow LAFer Donpimpom was kind enough and started a new topic called "Karel Zeman VSF films"
here is the link:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=19821.0;topicseen

it is very interesting have a look!
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Shikari Sahib on 10 June 2010, 01:12:24 PM
My list is like this:
the Drum
Four feathers ,Korda version
Gunga Din,
Lives of a bengal lancers
Zulu
Zulu down
The man who would be king
Beau Geste ,Gary Cooper version
Kim
Young Winston ,but just the parts on NWF and Sudan
Far Pavillons
La Bandera - march or die
the Wind and the Lion
Braeker Morant
Lawrence of Arabia
Mogambo
King's Solomon's mines , Stewart Granger version


Piero



Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: Shikari Sahib on 10 June 2010, 02:06:35 PM
Lawrence is obviously WWI but I know what you mean...it's in the spirit of the era, but Mogambo with Ava Gardner and an ageing Clark Gable?

Leave aside it is rubbish (which I admit is a subjective judgement) but it's not even close to Victorian?  ???

I agree with you , partially, but is a movie that always push me to arrange a game for big hunt  lol
yes some are  out of Victorian period, I mentioned more movies connected to Colonial than Victoria period. :(

Piero
Title: Re: Your favorite Victorian Era Movies?
Post by: bandit86 on 13 June 2010, 04:50:01 AM
Gunga Din
Man who would be king
Beau Geste (I really like the one with Tele Savalis I know purist will hate me)
Master of the world
Zulu/Zulu dawn
Breaker Morant
King of the Khyber rifles
Any Sherlock Holmes
Khartoum
And one that I remember as a kid but could never remember the name a British Vs Arab type.