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Miniatures Adventure => Call of Cthulhu => Topic started by: Malebolgia on 14 June 2010, 11:52:08 AM

Title: Suitable planes?
Post by: Malebolgia on 14 June 2010, 11:52:08 AM
I have enough cars for the 20s era...but I want to add a plane for certain scenarios in Cairo or jungles. But what kind of plane would fit the 20s well? And what scale works best for 28mm miniatures? Cheers!
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: chicklewis on 14 June 2010, 12:55:41 PM
I feel that modern 28mm figures are about 1/56th scale.  However, you will not find any commercially available planes in that scale.  Many people use 1/48th scale planes, which, while too big, don't look badly at all next to 28mm figures. 

Two models, both in my collection, jump out as perfect for jungles, etc.  You would want either a floatplane or a flying boat, since jungles are notoriously lacking open flat landing strips, and have plenty of nice open flat rivers. 

ERTL has produced a perfect 1/48th scale Keystone flying boat in a number of color schemes.  They are easily available on ebay.  Here's one for $15.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-Keystone-Loening-Airplane-Chevron-Authentic-Paint-/380150771749?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item5882c07025

Franklin Mint released the Junkers F-13 in 1/48th in float plane version, and it is very nice.  Also available on ebay, usually can get one for $40, which is not cheap. 

There are zero on ebay at this minute, but here's an advert for one at list price for $80.  Within a week they will show up on ebay, so no need to buy the one linked below, wait a bit and put in a search on ebay for 'franklin junkers float':

http://www.3000toys.com/shop/item_detail.aspx?itemfind=ARMOURB11E737

Hope this helps, Chick
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Malebolgia on 14 June 2010, 10:36:52 PM
Good info Chick! Cheers! I'm looking for a 'regular' plane...not a big fan of the boat-planes lookwise. But they do give me loads of new ideas. I'm off to eBay 8)
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: chicklewis on 15 June 2010, 12:30:17 AM
Tell me more about what you want, and I can likely give more recommendations which are not floatplanes or flying boats.  That Junkers F-13 is much easier to find in wheels version than floats, for instance. 
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: dreamingleopard on 15 June 2010, 02:03:28 AM
Riversco asserts that S scale (1/72) is perfect for 25-28mm... and yes, they've several planes, blimps, boats...  In fact, this one was designed specificly for a Call of Cthulhu adventure!

http://www.tin-soldier.com/sm1-2.jpg (http://www.tin-soldier.com/sm1-2.jpg)

Riveresco's store link:
http://www.tin-soldier.com/
Just type plane into the search box and see what comes up!
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: dreamingleopard on 15 June 2010, 02:06:41 AM
Sorry... S scale is 1/64th scale, but the best scale for RP minis is 1/72.  Riveresco has vehicles in S mostly, and are still very suitable.
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Malebolgia on 15 June 2010, 10:00:24 AM
Fantastic plane! But unfortunately it's paper...and I prefer plastic/metal/resin. But cheers for the input. The S scale is useful to explore further.
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Malebolgia on 15 June 2010, 10:02:02 AM
Tell me more about what you want, and I can likely give more recommendations which are not floatplanes or flying boats.  That Junkers F-13 is much easier to find in wheels version than floats, for instance. 

Basically a small airliner with space for several people. So not a big one, and not a biplane, but something inbetween. Yesterday I saw a nice Junkers, but it was only at 1/44 scale by Revell. Real shame!
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Commander Vyper on 15 June 2010, 11:47:24 AM
A boat plane would make a fantastic deep ones gaming table though if you did it right, denizines of the deep crawling up the side, tentacled horrors from the abyss threatening to drag the plane down to the sunken city below...

NO I'M NOT DOING ANOTHER PROJECT THIS YEAR!! ;)
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: chicklewis on 15 June 2010, 02:09:03 PM
Well, if you are willing to stretch out to the 1930s, a 1/60th scale (good enough) Lockheed Electra model 10 exists in Snap Together plastic.  Here's one on eBay for $15.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-RAY-DELTA-AIRLINES-LOCKHEED-10-ELECTRA-MODEL-KIT-/120581690691?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c133a9543

It looks good with our minis.  You must realize, however, that one never could stand up in 1920s/30s airliners, moved about all crouched over even in the passenger compartment.  If you don't know this then the door looks too small.

Gotta disagree about 1/72nd scale being right for our minis, however, it is much too small.  Good for 20mm figures, not our 28mm and aboves. 

And I know I've mentioned it twice before, but the wheeled version of the Franklin Mint Junkers F-13 IS a small airliner, with four passenger seats in the back and a two-seat tandem OPEN cockpit in front.  I really like it, and hundreds were sold all over the world in the 1920s. 

Here's a photo

http://cgi.ebay.com/RPPC-People-Boarding-JUNKERS-F-13-ca1930-/220455079900?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3354258fdc

Chick
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Malebolgia on 15 June 2010, 02:22:57 PM
Cheers! That is exactly what I'm looking for. Fantastic plane. Now I'll look for one with cheaper international shipping. Thanks man, you've been a great help 8)
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: chicklewis on 15 June 2010, 02:25:30 PM
Most welcome, Malebolgia, I know you would do the same for me.

Chick
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Malebolgia on 16 June 2010, 09:50:44 AM
In the end settled for this one:

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/7/0/9/7/9/webimg/179796679_tp.jpg)

Really like it! It has the right size for an adventuring party entering an unkown area in Peru, the Amazon or maybe even the Great City of the Old Ones in Antarctica. With some quick weathering I think it's good for gaming 8)
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: chicklewis on 16 June 2010, 02:32:00 PM
Nice little kit, easy to assemble, no glue required, I've got two of them on the shelf. 

But it DOES look too pristine. 
Please post photos once you have 'weathered' it so I can borrow your ideas.

Chick
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on 24 June 2010, 06:20:48 PM
Nice pick. Nice pic.  ::) :?
Is that the New Ray Delta Lockheed 10 that Chick posted?
It would look great with some minor weathering.
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: gharak on 25 June 2010, 02:14:20 PM
I fancy one of those myself for 1930s pulp gaming. Anyone know of any sources in the UK? Shipping from the US is a killer.

Alternatively can we get a comparison shot to some 28mm minis and some dimensions so I can try and match up some kits I have found but don't mention scale.

Ta
G
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Malebolgia on 25 June 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Will do once I receive mine. I hope my Foundry Darkest Africa bearers will arrive quickly. A decent MU professor needs his stuff carried around from the plane...no way he will do that himself. ;)
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Smokeyrone on 25 June 2010, 02:55:39 PM
I fancy one of those myself for 1930s pulp gaming. Anyone know of any sources in the UK? Shipping from the US is a killer.

Alternatively can we get a comparison shot to some 28mm minis and some dimensions so I can try and match up some kits I have found but don't mention scale.

Ta
G


Why is that?  I have shipped stuff from  Florida, to LAFers in Germany, and even Guam, and the shipping was so cheap, it was basically free.

England to the US, and US to England seems like a mutual scam (I think our poatsal services are sandbagging). 

Same with AUS.  Bought some Australian made fishing rods, and the shipping was more than the rods cost. :(
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Malebolgia on 25 June 2010, 03:28:30 PM
Shipping from the US to Europe usually is cheap...unless ordering from stores and some eBay sellers. Whenever I bought stuff from forum members the rates were always very good. But somehow some stores have real issues with international orders. Really a shame, as they won't sell to me.

For example, I once wanted to buy two Raphael brushes. The store said shipping would be $25 to ship them. 25 BUCKS! I immediately cancelled the order. Insanity!
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: gharak on 25 June 2010, 07:29:15 PM
Aye it was an ebay seller that was over charging, I took a look at one of the planes on Ebay and they wanted $30 to ship it to the UK.. Bit daft for a $15 plane.

If anyone knows a US retailer with reasonable shipping rates to the UK I'll consider that too.
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: Snowdogs on 10 July 2010, 12:05:45 PM
These Sky Pilot planes turn up in Lidls about twice a year, I have a DC3 in close to 1/100 for use with 15mm figures and they cost about £3.00 at the time.
Title: Re: Suitable planes?
Post by: warrenpeace on 10 July 2010, 10:09:37 PM
I have one of those Franklin Mint Junkers F-13 floatplanes.  It's spectacular, and I think worth the price.  That was actually the world's first commercial airliner, although it could only carry 4 pasengers in the small cabine.  A late 1920's airplane with much bigger capacity is the famous Ford Tri-motor. Also, I believe there were later larger Junkers leading up to the Ju-52 of WW2 fame.

I'd suggest that plane selection should depend on the size of the group of figures to be transported.  If you want a couple of figures, then there's plenty of 2 seat airplanes.  For a group of six figures, that F-13 is perfect.  For a group of a dozen figures, a Ford Tri-motor would be a good choice.

Given the scale, a scratchbuild would be a real possibility, especially since these 1920's aircraft were somewhat boxy.  The plane could be stated to be an experimental model, so it wouldn't have to be modelled on a historical plane.