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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Weird WWII on 22 June 2010, 02:50:39 AM
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Anyone know how the Mexican army was uniformed and equipped during the war era? I know the nation was a mess but there were still some sort of uniformed military presence, or was there?
Any help would be appreciated,
Brian
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From my book "Uniforms of the World 1700-1937" by Knotel & Knotel it states;
From 1925 up to the late 1930's the Mexican Army was greatly influenced by the United States of America. A gray-brown service coat was worn with brown leather equipment. The officers wore a a Sam Browne, with the brace over the left shoulder.
I know this is not WWII info, but it could help.
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There's a short discussion on this at; Axis History Forum (http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=147525) which might help.
There is also some detail on the army in 1940 at Orbat.com (http://orbat.com/site/history/historical/mexico/army1940.html)
(http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=164655&sid=8da4aa436dc28fe3f63ec6c23dd291ca)
Mexican soldiers 1940
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I take your word for the army.
Navy: similar to us sailors.
Police: I think federal police looks like the spanish "assaltos"
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You might gain some info from; http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=18086.0
Certainly there's some SCW Asaltos painted as Mexicans on there. You might even get away with using Empress SCW CTV as helmeted infantry?
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The pic above makes them kinda look like early WWII french but with jack boots. Can anyone make out the rifles in the pic?
Brian
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I suspect the ones in the pic are artillerymen, it looks like spurs on one set of boots. I'll guess that infantry would wear their trousers loose over gaiters (or no gaiters). I think the rifles are Mexican made Mausers.
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I think Jim is right. It would also explain their weapons (which I also think look like Mausers) being carbine-length.
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Guys, I have a plethora of stuff about this.
I'll dig it up. They had Dauntless Devastators in a neat camo scheme, and General Grant tanks too.(rode in one, they still use them, I could barely fit in the damn thing)
In the Pacific Islands, there was actually some Mexican troops and planes. They were dressed in US uniform, in the pics I have.
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Smokeyrone is right about the Mexicans, but that was after they entered WW2 in 1942. They went over wholly to being equipped by the USA. The only troops to go overseas though is the squadron that he mentions (201 iirc).
Prior to 1942 the army was using WW1 era equipment. With the exception of the Mondragon Light Machine Gun, which by all accounts was all that the BAR should have been but wasn't.
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Thanks, Jim ;)
Brian, how about I pick you up in Texas, and we go to Mexico and see all the stuff ourselves? (We rode Mexican Hummers, some Ford F-250 military truck, and Grant tanks last time)
I'll take you to the best taco joint on the planet, too! They have a seafood cocktail, in a huge glass goblet, with so many tentacles and parts sticking out of it, it looks like something you'd see on the Cthulhu board!
:)
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If you can swing by PA on the way I'm in. Two things at the top of my likes list are Grant tanks and seafood! :-*
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If you can swing by PA on the way I'm in. Two things at the top of my likes list are Grant tanks and seafood! :-*
Find me OSU vs Miami tickets, and some goons that will prevent me and my mouth from getting beaten up in the parking lot beofre the game by OSU fans, and I'll make sure you see a Grant, eat the best seafood,
AND meet senoritas con pantalones dela jamon! (that means "Cute, chubby Mexican girls" to you and me)
lol
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And then of course there was the Mexican Spitfire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5DhF5hS9Ek&feature=related
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qPiVQGDoURc/SZFDML_POrI/AAAAAAAABIA/vahbQw-TOLE/s400/1941.jpeg
http://myvintagevogue.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Lupe_Velez_1932.62162618_large.jpg
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/3421959.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834D45BDED7A35219698B5C49F038E8FC08F8D143FD4AE7FC81B
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Thanks, Jim ;)
Brian, how about I pick you up in Texas, and we go to Mexico and see all the stuff ourselves? (We rode Mexican Hummers, some Ford F-250 military truck, and Grant tanks last time)
I'll take you to the best taco joint on the planet, too! They have a seafood cocktail, in a huge glass goblet, with so many tentacles and parts sticking out of it, it looks like something you'd see on the Cthulhu board!
:)
Just wait tell august and I will head down there with you guys.
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...and back on topic. ;)
I found an interesting article here (http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/678-mexico-forgotten-world-war-ii-ally). I was particularly intrigued by the thought of Spanish Falangists being sent over to ferment unrest against the government.
This (http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/) site is always worth a look. Most of the vehicles are Second World War vintage, but towards the bottom is the Tempo G1200 staff car, which is accompanied in the picture by Marmon Herrington CTVL Tankettes.
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I'd love to go Bart but the boss (Amy) held up the Red Card on me cause it just ain't safe for a load mouth, fearless, Texan gringo nowadays. I would most certainly get in trouble down there with the mowhawk and cowboy hat by itself. However, if you ever find yourself in the piny woods of NE Texas shoot me a line and we down a gallon of beer and a few pounds of BBQ and TexMex.
Brian
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This (http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/) site is always worth a look. Most of the vehicles are Second World War vintage, but towards the bottom is the Tempo G1200 staff car, which is accompanied in the picture by Marmon Herrington CTVL Tankettes.
I would buy those tankettes hand over fist if someone brought them out in 28mm!
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A guy on the Interwar Board has scratchbuilt one...
(http://rotanddrivel.com/CTVL.jpg)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=18086.0