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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: loki on 11 August 2006, 06:25:20 AM
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lookhere:
http://www.helldorado.fr/
http://www.gamingreport.com/gallery/v/gencon/GenCon2006/Games/Minis/Hell/
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the first link :
I do not speak french but this mini is just fantastic !
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id26/img-0763.jpg)
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That figure is fantastic!
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That is a terrific find, the figures and terrain are superb! :o
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If you would like to see more from Helldorado, have a look here:
http://www.ttcreation.com/modules/galerie/index.php?id=17
This is the page of one of the most creative group of gamers/modellers/painters/sculptors I've ever seen, Team Toulouse. They built the demo-tables for that game for GenCon. If you would like to brouse their pages, you'll need some time ... And you don't need to read french to just enjoy those pictures! :o
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More Pitcures:
(http://www.gamingreport.com/gallery/d/12737-4/heldaradoFlyer.gif)
(http://www.gamingreport.com/gallery/d/12746-4/IMG_7184.JPG)
(http://www.gamingreport.com/gallery/d/12743-4/IMG_7183.JPG)
(http://www.ttcreation.com/modules/galerie/17/3_tables_helldorado.jpg)
(http://www.asmodee.com/dl/news/le-pretre.jpg)
some infos from french translated with babelfish:
Hell Dorado will be thus a play of strategy in which the players will compose of the frank companies of ten members. They will be able to then clash the ones the others in skirmishes as epic as bloody, within the most hostile universe which is: hells themselves. These companies will be made up of metal figurines painted by the care of the players. The four basic factions will leave at the end of October in the form limp containing a playable company as well as the rules of initiation. As of November, the book of rules of 192 pages entirely colors will be available with the first wave of innovations. These last will be marketed out of boxes containing one or two preset figurines.
The four principal factions of the play will be the Westerners, coming from the four corners from Europe, aguerris by interminable conflicts of religions, Buckwheats?uvrant with the achievement of a spiritual search started at the time of the crusades, the Demons, simple autochtones resistant to the invasion of their grounds, and the Stray ones, demons and damnés having lost their Masters and formant of the independent clans. By the continuations, mercenaries will be able to join some of these four factions. The opening of the passage is imminent, which faction will you join in the fight for the domination of the hells?
(http://www.asmodee.com/dl/news/bohemienne-couleur.jpg)
(http://www.asmodee.com/dl/news/assassin-demone-crop03_1.jpg)
(http://www.asmodee.com/dl/news/dsc05947_1.jpg)
(http://www.asmodee.com/dl/news/dsc05945.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id28/-mg-0768_3.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id29/dsc05066.jpg)
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Hmm, a sort of historical fantasy, looks good! Looking forward to see more
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This is the answer from an e-mail to asmodee:
Hello,
We are actually working on an english release. The game has been
displayed at Gencon Indy, last week, and will also be in Essen.
Best Regards
Nicolas Benoist
Asmodée Editions
ZAC le Mérantais
Angle Rue aux Fleurs/Rue des Tilleuls
BP 00037 - 78960 Voisins le Bretonneux
Tél : 01 34 52 19 81
Fax : 01 34 52 20 70
e-mail : n.benoist@asmodee.com
web : www.asmodee.com
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Burkhard Hannig [mailto:Hannig.Bu@Cityweb.de]
Envoyé : vendredi 11 août 2006 18:07
À : asmodee@asmodee.com
Objet : Hell Dorado
Hello,
is there an english release planed ?
Will you be with this game at the Spiel in Essen ?
Yours
Burkhard
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Now I'm looking forward to Essen even more! :love:
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New pictures:
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id31/tour2-02-suite.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id31/tour2-04-bretteur-et-l.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id31/tour2-05-fin-une-ligne-du.jpg)
there is also a new gamereport (french only :( )
http://www.helldorado.fr/
and here to translate :wink:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
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Looks interesting, I'm not so fond of the french figure style though. Hope it doesn't drift too much into the fantasy and comic corner.
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Wow!
This loks really interesting, I love the figures. Are they 28mm or larger, in keeping with the Rachkam figures?
I could be tempted to dive into this. :P
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OOps, please excuse my spelling!
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OOps, please excuse my spelling!
You can edit your posts using the edit button on the right of the message :wink:
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not 17th century but rather late 18th or early 19th check these guys out, straight form Brotherhood of the wolf
http://www.thehobbybox.biz/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=789&strPageHistory=cat
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Just found this Helldorado pic on www.conceptart.org :)
(http://www.marcsimonetti.com/images/illustrations/enfer.jpg)
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New Pictures look here:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.polesimulation-grenoble.org%2findex.php%3fpage%3dGalerie%26picRep%3dPhotosTournois%2f2006_05_Printemps_du_jeu%2fHellDorado
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If those are 40mm round bases, those are going to be some big figures. Not sure how I feel about that.
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If those are 40mm round bases, those are going to be some big figures. Not sure how I feel about that.
I do not know, why you think these are 40mm bases ? These are the normal
Warmachine 30mm bases.
And I also heard, that the figures will be metall not resin.
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[quote="loki]I do not know, why you think these are 40mm bases ? These are the normal
Warmachine 30mm bases.
And I also heard, that the figures will be metall not resin.[/quote]
Why do I think they're 40mm? Because I'm an idiot, it seems. :oops: I forgot the Warmachine bases were 30mm.
Okay, so they're generously proportioned 28mm.
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I'm just :D :love: over these models/scenery! Can't really tell you why, cuz I don't know, but damn! I can't wait!!
I need to see the bare metal to cool my jets a bit...
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Me too, I am really taken with these miniatures. More expense!
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I will get some of these in Essen for sure...
... if they are available :mrgreen:
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New picturers:
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id36/hsa006-combattant-sanctifie_2.jpg)
You believe the Westerners only beings human to press the infernal extents? That nenni good people! Since the time of the crusades, the wire of Allah traverse the hells in search of the doors of the Paradise. Only the pure hearts will be likely to achieve the ultimate goal. Misfortune with those which will have the madness to be involved in the search of Buckwheats! The sanctified combatants constitute the backbone of the Moslem armies of In Bottom. A rigorous organization, allied to the weight of the number, returns coriaces, these heavily protected troupiers maliciously. Take guards with these men stripped of artifices... The swirl of their scimitars is perhaps the last thing which you will see of them, arrogant warriors!
(babelfish translation)
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/854/paysagelt2.jpg)
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4614/2zp9.jpg)
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/718/allredmu1.jpg)
(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6324/lemuressy0.jpg)
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Updates :love:
"My father, I transmit to you these some lines concerning a infernalist of the name of Sara Zingaresce, originating, according to my sources, of an obscure village of Moravie. I will like that it is transmitted to the file, concerning the impious activities of the above-mentioned individual, testimonys of several people worthy of faith. This adoratrice of the demon controls the invocation of lémures (annotation 3), with a predisposition for the explosion and impious fire. Per hour that it is, if you do not find attached the consents of this creature infernal, it is that it has assets at the very least diverting. First of all, it seems that it has a strong capacity of subjugation on the individuals of the male sex. Only a man equipped with a faith without fault, can hope to resist the call of the flesh which this pecheress exhales. It then used of its dark capacities to assume the protection of a frank-capitaine called Francisco Vargas. This last in an access of madness, even was until loosely assassinating two members of the order of the Jesuits. My father, I await your instructions concerning action to be taken for this business. Will know that I have myself, in one moment of madness of most unforgivable, yielded to the insults of the flesh. I await from now on your sanction for elementary failure in the exercise of my duty and beseeches your leniency... Note of the brother inquisitor Guido Bertucci with the large inquisitor Alvaro de Balaguer."
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id38/hoc004-sara-zingaresce_3.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id38/sara.jpg)
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Is there any real info on this game yet, like $$, release dates, etc.?
I'm :D over this. I need something fancy after all these Arthurians...
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This is my own version of Vargas from Hell dorado. Very pleasant to paint.
(http://www.hazgaard.com/FORUMTOUTATIS/vargas.jpg)
(http://www.hazgaard.com/FORUMTOUTATIS/vargas2.jpg)
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Very nice paint job :D
I also like the gypsy dancer. :D
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Great job, Erwan! I like his hair and eyes very much.
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(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id39/hde003-succube.jpg)
If you had the displeasure to fight against this creature, believe me kid, you should not dare about the thousand of pleasures succubus gave you…
Even the best sword master is not protected from the furry burning in her veins. And what to say about their whips, living by their own, punishing the unwise person who makes trouble to his mistress…I could feed your spirit during hours with words relating the symbiosis between succubus and their whips, about the basic hate they seem share…
Take care Mister ! As soon a succub turns around you, fast as a stallion on the plain, the Death will hardly call you…you idiot!
This day, if Sergeant Saint james didn’t be so accurate, I had lost more than one eye.
I was close to be defeated by this bitch. I could feel the infinite pleasure the promised me…all my desires…imminent…so easily! So my fighting skills were decreased, and I could not hit anymore. Brusquely her body shacked, her muscles grew, her glance became red ! My eye was taken off from a whiplash. Aidan asked all his men to shoot this demon. Badly touched, I just had to achieve her before I burned her dead body. Just after a red veil obscured my glance…and this emptiness feeling…
Gonzalo, my kindness makes me prevent you, do what you have to do during the last moments you’re still alive.
Text from Captain Francisco Vargas to Sword master Gonzalo, aka “El loco”, dead now.
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id39/succube-sketch2.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id39/succube-sketch.jpg)
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Needs less bondage, more swashbucklers.
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I must disagree... :love:
Now for some gore, and we're on our way!
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Needs less bondage, more swashbucklers.
I agree on that... that´s more of a "21st century interpretation of a 17th century interpretation of hell tabletop game".
I like the swordsmen, and that gipsy lady is just luvverly, but that succubus... ah well.
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Hell is timeless, boys. BnD chicks can torment souls from any era, and hopefully will in this game!
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(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id40/hoc001-francisco-vargas-a.jpg)
The French pavilion into the council palace was unusually agitated. The room of war, colossal in its dimensions and luxury, made two of the most powerful persons of the two worlds look tinny. The Cardinal De Richelieu, prime minister of His Majesty Louis, the 13th, and Henri II de Bourbon, General of the French group of explorers in Hell. “Monsieur de Bourbon, I would strongly appreciate it if Mister Vargas fights for us, from now”
-Eminence, why so fast, there is others person to complete this task, some noble heroes less…
-Spanish? Completed the Cardinal. Henri smiled
-I see His Eminence can still read in the heart of men with accuracy answered De Bourbon
-Henri, make me the pleasure to stay attentive and listen to me carefully.
-Eminence, you know your advises are always followed, by myself as by the King…
-Right! I will be direct with you. Yes Vargas is Spanish, unfortunately, but nothing could change it. Agree he is a good catholic at least, which is not right for every of our allies. And also, I prefer known him occupied to fight some demons as free to come in our lands as a foe.
-Continue My lord, please -Thanks Henri. The most important thing is this guy is a genius. Every report we had about him confirms he is a great warrior, he can adapt himself to every new situation, and respect his men. He is more than a warrior, he is a Weapon himself.
-A lethal weapon, Eminence, who dispenses discord and destruction where it comes, objected Henri.
-You’d better believe it Henri! We are in our World, who will complain about some devotees killed or tortured? -Nobody, of course nobody…whispered De Boubon. But why Vargas ? I suspect you are hiding some information that make you appreciate this Spanish.”
Richelieu stopped, massaged his face, looked left and right, and answered: “You’re right, I could choose another Spanish as you said. My Friend, you have to understand this quest in hell may became a crusade a any moment, and I can confirm than, when it will be, I hope be assisted by people from my own house. By persons who fight to defend interests more human and reasonable than spirituals. Look the Von Holbein, or the Balaguer, there are competent, even brilliant ! But they are exalted, furious, crazy, totally devoted to a God they imagine their ! Observe their reactions when they discovered the existence of a Sarasin Kingstown in the other world ! They immediately declared a war rather than try to defend a common interest. What a waste! They put the entire colony in danger. One day, the council of the six will have to take decisions against them or will be defeated.
-That’s it Cardinal, I follow you and am ready to help you. Vargas is waiting for you in the maps room, escorted by a musketeer of the King.
-You already knew what I would say about all this, Henri, you surprised me acting as you did with me, answered the cardinal smiling.
-You’re the genius, not me. In fact I just thought than a “Richelieu” warrior under the orders of a “Richelieu” orator was a pleasant idea…”
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id40/capitaine.jpg)
A few informations I found about the release of the game:
Release is sheduled for the end of may 2007 (gen con france) for the french version. 4 basics sets with quick start rules and one month later, rulebook with the first wave of new miniatures. An english version is sheduled few month after the french… :)
Regarding your non-asking questions, I send an e-mail to a commercial from Asmodee to obtain some answers.
this is a copy of his message:
“A ce jour:
- le jeu est assuré de sortir fin mai pour la gen con Paris … si tout va bien (on n’est jamais sûr à 100%)
- les magasins anglais (grossistes ou non) qui bossait avec nous pour Ilyad games, travailleront avec nous pour les figurines…
- pour les règles, il est prévue que notre filiale AsmodéeUS la fasse à quelques mois d’intervalles avec la VF.
Les premiers produits disponibles fn mai seront des starters avec des quick start rules. On proposera ces QSR en plusieurs langues dès le début, certainement en téléchargement… Le livre de règles, est prévue fin juin.
Pas d’extension prévue la première année, si ce n’est la centaine de ref de figs.
cordialement
Nicolas”
In english now:
“-It’s confirmed the game will be available in the end of May…if every continu going well (we are never 100% sure)
-You’ll be able to find items from this game in the same shops you generally found Ilyad games products (they will sell our miniatures as usual)
-Regarding thew rules, they planed do to a English translation via Asmodee US, but with probably some interval (few months)
The first items available in May will be starters including quick start rules. These rules should already be proposed in different language in these packs. the Rulebook will be in stock in June.
No extension planed during the first year, excepted the hundred of miniatures we will produce.
Best regards
Nicolas”
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(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id41/hsa002-chams-al-majid.jpg)
Sculpted and painted by Thomas David.
I only remember this brown twister moving against the wind to our position. The ground before our improvised parapet was a mix of dark sand and small rocks. Something was really going wrong this time. Our musketeers took aim, ready to face the demonic group. We wanted to feed these foes born in the abyss with our bullets and soon enjoyed our easy victory. At about 600 yards away there was silhouettes wearing long tunics, progressing in our direction. We could clearly see their scimitars. Sarrasins !
We prepared to make fire. 400 yards from us and we already could see the light reflecting on their bronze made shields. It was ordered to everyone to shoot at the same time, creating a devastating charge. But we were wrong again. The wind was so strong than bullets changed direction and disappeared into the vortex. We reloaded as fast as possible but, as the dust felt down, we discovered a Demon of sand next to us. He wore a turban made from sand decorated with an emerald. One of his hands carried a scimitar which presented no well defined edges. By opposition to the others, this demon was fascinating as terrifying. On his side were armed Sarrasins wearing green and bronze colors.
Suddenly he whispered something. It seemed he was talking to the wind. He request was visibly accepted. So a warm and dry air strongly pushed the Moorish army. They entered in contact so hard our warriors were reversed. I learned, after our army retreated and during my captivity, that the demon is called a Djinn, and he helps the Sarrasins in their quest of paradise. I still don’t know what to think about it but I’m sure of one thing, this ally is certainly a gift from their god.
Sergeant Paulus, from the army of Kohut.
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id41/djinn-et-guerrier-sarrasin.jpg)
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id41/djinn.jpg)
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I don't care what the rules are like.........................I WANT THOSE MINIS!!!!! :o
PM
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yes, now i'm ready to buy too :mrgreen:
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:love: :D :P :mrgreen:
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The Jin is perfect as a pulp monster I must have him !!!!!!!!
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wow. just wow. :love:
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A few more informations:
four factions (for begin):
- Westerners (warriors of all corners of europe)
- saracens
- demons
- surprise :)
and fluff:
darth-swen Says:
January 12th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
I just found a new text about Hell Dorado. It’s the introduction of this game.
Find translation below
Hell has its own laws !
The 30 years’ war is intensive for the living persons; men kill other men just to solve some religious concerns. We, demons, take advantage of their stupidity. Every day lot of dead comes to complete our armies. But now we start to be worried. Gates have been opened…and humans found them.
Already some scouts came in our world. Already some armies took position to prepare the invasion. Already mercenaries attack our positions to steal us. For the humans our world is an untouched country where the first to come in is the first to collect want he wants.
Worst, Sarrasins, hidden since centuries into our world show themselves. We still don’t know what they really want but we know they are ready to fight to find it. The lost souls, formerly our slaves, group together to fight for their freedom.
More, some damned, some humans and even some demons leave us to join groups who pay well, or to be free from their old allegiance. Fallen angels are worried and happy at the same time. They are worried because the gates should have never been opened; never humans should have been able to come in our worlds.
But they are also happy to see they have their revenge, they will have the opportunity to listen again the sound of battles, the opportunity to see people loosing blood and suffering. They enjoy because a new period of war has already started.
Aahnou le vil, devil ambassador.
May this help you to find the fourth group. (I will not help you to keep the surprise…)
Darth-swen
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(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id42/hd-logo-apla_3.jpg)
The blog of Hell Dorado will be closed soon to be replaced by an Internet site entirely dedicated to Hell Dorado and its universe. In addition the play and the figurines starting soon production, we will speak to you today about what will be Hell Dorado on next 27 May! Hell Dorado, the infernal set of figurines, will consist of 5 factions, and at the time of its exit on May 27, 2007, four factions among them will be available in boxes of company. Each box of company will contain approximately ten figurines (according to the size of the parts), and will make it possible to play immediately. These four boxes of company will be presented at the time of Gencon France in Paris from the 25 to May 27, 2007. At the same date the book will leave rules, of approximately 200 pages entirely colors. It will contain the whole of the rules of the game, but also of the specific rules on the use of decorations in the infernal circles, of the scenarios, a guide of painting and nearly a hundred characters and units with their complete characteristics. The framework of the play will be also described there as well as the internal fights of the factions to the c?ur of the Hells of the XVIIe century. Additional figurines of all the factions will be available in the shape of boxes of reinforcement (of 1 or 2 figurines), and each faction will have an innovation every two months. Here is for the program of the rejoicings! To have patience from here at the exit of the play, Internet site of Hell Dorado will replace this present blog. On this site you will find all the old contents of the blog but also quantities of new functions: a super forum high-tech, a gallery of the figurines, a presentation of the background and universe of the play, five factions of Hell Dorado presented camp by camp, all the technical part of the rules of the game to be downloaded, the news, the illustrations and much of others surprised! We also prepare an application on line for the constitution of the companies. It will be matched of a data base on the figurines containing all their characteristics. We soon will raise the veil on the two still mysterious factions of Hell Dorado, then a council: supervise the blog well hell!
(translated with babelfish)
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May this help you to find the fourth group. (I will not help you to keep the surprise…)
Angels ?
And the fifth has to be the Great Old Ones.. :o
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Fourth group should be the damned, fighting for their release.
:x Arrgh! I can't wait!!
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(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id47/hoc003-anna-bogna-pavlova.jpg)
The quest was quite easy: take back a strategic note from the dead body of its current owner. Lanzhar, our demon lord, was affirmative about this: We had to find and keep this letter regardless the price to pay for it.
Our first strategy was a total failure. Our assault force was devastated by the defensive line armed with guns…
The plan “B” was more perfidious, and definitively more in accordance with our demonic spirit: it’s not for nothing human named us demon, isn’t it. Rapidity and discretion were our key words. Our objective was to softly stole the paper. Two poor guys were designated, me and an old killer called Maxence.
We discretely entered into their camp. We cut the throat of the human vigil who fall on the ground sounding like somebody regurgitating. We detected the tent where our objective was and slowly moved in its direction, clever enough to escape some vigilant guards.
Penetrate into the tent was a piece of cake.
The poor light from a finishing candle showed us the face of a man by intermittence, his head concealed in a large arm. His one-night-girlfriend wasn’t really attractive: a large fat woman, hairy, snoring and twice bigger as him !
My friend went to the messenger and promptly killed the man. Half our quest seemed achieved when a enormous hand caught his!
The ugly women spoke in a strange dialect and hardly pulled my unfortunate companion to her. In the second he touched her, she strangled him so hard I could hear his bone breaking. Throwing away his dead body, she took a mace. I don’t remember to already have seen a so impressive weapon during all my life.
Like if her face deformed by her angry wasn’t frightening enough, I discovered she was absolutely naked…Ultimate horror.
Not really brave by nature, I appreciated my life even damned, and at this moment my only thought was to keep it as long as possible. I quickly retreat and ran as fast as my poor leg permitted myself to do so when I faced a group of enraged warriors. I understood I had no more choice than to give up. They bound my hands and my foot but it wasn’t visibly enough to calm down the repulsive woman. Only a direct order from the officer stopped her to transform my head into a cauliflower. I still remember her expression, her deformed face, her breath saturated by the alcohol and her smell of blood…
At least Father I hope my confession will definitively save me from her. Thinking about it, that will be the second time I will die burned alive. Ironic isn’t it?
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id47/greens-occ.jpg)
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id47/anna-concept.jpg)
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For the parisian Demo are provide in Starplayer shop 4 rue Dante every saturday. I will test it next week i think.
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Be sure to give us a report if you do test it, Poulppy!
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Be sure to give us a report if you do test it, Poulppy!
i will, next monday i think.
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i will, next monday i think.
Yes, please :love: :D :love: :D :o
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Nazir bin Hamid
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id48/nazir-bin-hamid.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id48/sarrasins.jpg)
Story:
What a strange vision! There definitely are some odd persons in hell.
Our leader asked a scout group to go to Witte and report why activities have stopped into the mine. This mine, based in Kohut, was constantly attacked by daemons. A small garrison was already in position inside with order to protect it and be sure daemon slaves don’t revolt. Indeed, working conditions were sometime - how can I say - inhuman.
When we arrived, everything was destroyed and still burning. Dead bodies of our soldiers were everywhere, there entrails taken off.
Suddenly we earned sounds of battle inside the mine. Some of ours were alive! As soon my company came inside to check it. Sounds stopped but our motivation was intact. These evil demons have to pay for their unnamed crime! But as long we were progressing we understood we were walking on dead demons. Unbelievable! And we saw them!
There were warriors wearing turbans and luxury clothes, light armours, bronzed skin…A Saracen army faced us. The mythic Saracens…To lead them was a blind honourable man. His tunic was so immaculate it seems he was illuminated. The very old leader stayed on the shoulders of a dark skin guy. Regarding his scimitar, his musculature and his aggressive glance, there was doubt about it, this slave was a great warrior…The noble man studied us for one moment and finally said in our language:
“You warriors of the Westland’s, what’s happening here is not of your business. And we’re not in to fight you. Leave now and take care of your dead. May Allah show you mercy…”
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damn, i wish i could get my beard to come to a point like that -and as long!
as it greys it may help intimidate the sugar-powered anoyance-maximized 12 year olds at the conventions (i speak of developmental age, not necessarily chronological)
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wow! another must-have one, beautiful model!
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I'm really sorry, I didn't have time to test this rules this week end.
Too many people on the demo and not enought time :x :x .
indeed I see a little action on the game and I'm not convince :
This game seems to be designed for "gros bill" (well "Gros bill" is a french term for the D&D guy with full equipements, full competences and full magic stuffs) I'm Not convince by the games mecanism. For exemple Initiative for the next turn is for the player who killed the greatest number of minis !!!
But the minis are really beautifull :)
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For exemple Initiative for the next turn is for the player who killed the greatest number of minis !!!
Wow, that sounds wacky. What size are the minis? Could you use them to play other stuff?
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I'm really sorry, I didn't have time to test this rules this week end.
Too many people on the demo and not enought time :x :x .
indeed I see a little action on the game and I'm not convince :
This game seems to be designed for "gros bill" (well "Gros bill" is a french term for the D&D guy with full equipements, full competences and full magic stuffs) I'm Not convince by the games mecanism. For exemple Initiative for the next turn is for the player who killed the greatest number of minis !!!
But the minis are really beautifull :)
The mechanism sounds strange, will you make a second try next week?
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Wow, that sounds wacky. What size are the minis? Could you use them to play other stuff?
The minis are 28-30mm they looks like Confrontation minis.
the humans will be difficult to mix with anothers minis, but the posseded are great for Zombies, genetic horrors and others flesh monsters.
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I'm really sorry, I didn't have time to test this rules this week end.
Too many people on the demo and not enought time :x :x .
C'est la vie. I hope you get another chance.
indeed I see a little action on the game and I'm not convince :
This game seems to be designed for "gros bill" (well "Gros bill" is a french term for the D&D guy with full equipements, full competences and full magic stuffs) I'm Not convince by the games mecanism. For exemple Initiative for the next turn is for the player who killed the greatest number of minis !!!
But the minis are really beautifull :)
Ah! More more Language Adventures! "Gros Bill" is called a "munchkin" in English. There are other names, too.
The game mechanics sound very strange. The initiative rules sound rather peculiar. Suppose nobody kills any minis? Who gets initiative then? Or suppose I want to try to design a team that will win by taking control of other miniatures, or win by something other than combat? Will I never have initiative?
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Here's the "Gros Bill" as he first appeared in Casus Belli in 1981 (Casus Belli was one of the french RPG / Wargames magazines in the 80's.) The writer created this encounter from one of their clubmates.
http://perronny.free.fr/rpg/pic/grosbill.jpg
Olivier
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Gros Bills !
For the AD&D nostalgic, check this video. :lol:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5825493270005637835&q=farador
"- OK you've been playing...
- ...once a week for fifteen years"
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Wow! The figures just keep getting better and better! Is there a release date?
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I am not sure if we had those ones:
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics11/img458aac7aa1262.jpg)
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics11/img458c23a8ecd35.jpg)
(http://allanc.art.free.fr/images/images%20figs/damne-paresse-fin-02.jpg)
(http://meneursdeleu.free.fr/galerie/cmon/j%e9r%f4me/Nazir%20bin%20Hamid.jpg)
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The painting is really excellent! Any idea who's the painter?
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Wow! The figures just keep getting better and better! Is there a release date?
"Release is sheduled for the end of may 2007 (gen con france) for the french version. 4 basics sets with quick start rules and one month later, rulebook with the first wave of new miniatures. An english version is sheduled few month after the french…"
The painting is really excellent! Any idea who's the painter?
"Painting and sculpture: Thomas David"
- A true master in every field!
I don't think it is right to tease people that much and then let them wait for months... I want to hold one of this starterpacks in my hands, now!
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some great demon/creature:
(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id50/heg-001-bran-carnoth-01.jpg)
Can’t you perceive the thunderous sounds far away? Can’t you feel the coming events that will happen when the sun of the revolt will be at its zenith?
Do you hear the rumour? The one about thousands, about ten thousands of millennium voices on the way to the war.
The without masters start to move ! Everywhere, In every dark corner in Kohut, Ampharaüs, Thébaïde, the damned are waking up from a long night during they fought together without reason.
Men, by their success, show them the way, my friends!
Each tear from their burden stops on a dry branch of a sulphuring tree. And one by one they move and group together forming a strong torrent nothing can stop.
Do you know the leader of this revolt? Do you know this Spartacus from a proud people fallen in disgrace?
They name him Dux bellorum, and before him all prostrate themselves and furiously hail his name!
Glory to Bran Garroth, Lord of the Lost, War Master invincible and merciless.
People of New Jerusalem, open your minds, open your doors, they’re coming!
Don’t be scary, Lord Carnoth and his army are very old men, wise and respectful…they never kill in hazard. Nothing common with these humans, puppets at the sold of the Council of the Six. In oppositions of human Christians, Bran Carnoth and his men don’t live in luxury and lust…
Rufus, exalted orator from New Jerusalem, executed for heresy.
By Arnaud Romonat, aka Ramon.
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Ok...now you got me...:What a great Demon Figure. WOW !!!!
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I could watch a 4 turn game on Saturday in the Cannes game festival. It was played on the first board of the set (astounding).
(http://www.ttcreation.com/modules/galerie/17/3_tables_helldorado.jpg)
2 small groups of 6-8 minis. One priest+adventurer+gipsy sorceress+2 arquebusiers against a fallen angel, a succubus, 3 damned and 2 laziness demons. The minis look smaller than Confrontation. More like standard 28mm to me.
Every turn, you activate one mini, then your opponent one, and so on.
Each group receives a number of action points every turn (about 8, depending on the quality of the characters in the group ad the total number of the minis).
You can use these points in three ways :
- vae soli : the opponent looses his turn : you play two of your minis without the opponent being able to react
- vae victis : bonus to shooting or fighting
- some characters can get special ability for the reste of the game (like frenzy, ..), but you have to sacrifice your action points permanently.
Every mini has his card, ala Warmachine. You stick off hit points using a white board marker. Below a certain threshold of hit points, the mini becomes wounded and has decreased characteristics.
Shooting is simple. You throw a number of dice, depending on the firer's quality, the presence of some inspiring characters nearby, the activation points you use to boost the attack. You always keep the 5 best scores. The difficulty (eg. 4, 5 or 6) depends on he quality of the target and its cover. Each die that scores greater or equal than the difficulty is a hit and removes 2 hit points from the target.
Arquebusiers need two full turns to reload.
Close combat is resolved like two simultaneous shootings. But you ignore the damages done by the mini who looses.
Magic works through lemures (sorts of hell basic spirits) holding a spell and invoked by the magicians during the game. In the game, there were spells of explosion and possession. Then the lemure can be moved like another mini towards its target and has an effect only when it reaches it. Lemures are rather slow and can't run, but they can be activated twice in a turn, so the opponent have time to try to counter them.
Magicians have a maximum number of lemures thay can control simultanously (in the game, 1 or 2) and a max number they can invoke in a game (in the game, 2 or 3).
Some minis have special hatred properties. The priest hates all the demons and so has a 2 dice bonus against them. The demons, knowing that the priest hates them, have a 1 die bonus against him.
A simple fast game.
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Every mini has his card
Crap. I hate this "you need the card, so you have to buy our minis, to play the game" system. So this is going to be another one I never play because I only buy figs I like, not those I need.
Thanks for the report. The rule mechanics don't sound that bad, even thogh they aren't much original.
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The mechanics sound ok.
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Found a new picture:
(http://www.ttcreation.com/modules/galerie/3/squamat_manumilitari.jpg)
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Game play example found on The TGN page:
Helldorado game comments
TGN reader Darth Swen passed along some comments about the gameplay of the upcoming Helldorado game based on the games he was able to play recently. Many thanks to him for sending us these comments.
It is an alternative rounds game: Each player does all the actions available for one miniature alternatively during the turn. Note you may choose to pass and allow your foe to activate another miniature just after his round as long you have less miniatures to play than your opponent.
The unit for the distance is the “Toise”, more accurate regarding the background. (I don’t know yet the equivalent in centimetres or inches). Some players complained about this point, judging it disturbing…
Be aware you can check distances before every action you would like to do. No more charges stopped by a wrong evaluation or a spell to short to be effective… again some players disagreed with this specific rule (generally the same who can easily estimate distances without tools)
Movement. Each miniature can move its Mvt value and do another action (shot, close combat or cast a spell). You can double this Mvt value, as long you do nothing after. Note by moving so far you loose one dice on Fight skills (too “out of breath” to act normally)
Each miniature has a “control area” around its position. You can’t go through it without engage the miniature.
Combat: The principle is really simple. Each player throws number of dices equal to his fight skill. It’s a hit when the result is bigger than the opposite defense. The damages are relative to the delta between the attack and the defense. Damages may also vary considering specific attacks (poison for example)
Your fight skill could be increased by using some feats, if an ally assists you or by spending “authority points”. If you got more than five dices for the same action, every dice after the 4th one is considered as a possible re-roll. Note combats are simultaneous. Each player fights in the round regardless if the previous attack in the same round killed him or not. Wound points are noted on the character card. Human fight skill is affected when he has no more than one point.
Range attacks are powerful but limited. You have no choice; you have to shoot the nearest miniature. Difficulty level is determined by range or foe defense (higher is considered)
Spells
There is two families of spells in this game: “Aura spells” and “lemurs” invocation.
The wizard cast “aura spells” by spending “authority points”. The effects are for every miniature inside a specific area or responding a specific criterion. With these spells you can cure, increase your defense, armor value or weapon damages)
In opposition a wizard can cast a “lemur”. This funny creature gets its proper abilities and a determined spell/power (fire ball, mind control, poisoned cloud…). The lemur will move in direction to its target the turn after it arrived on the table. As an individual miniature the “lemur” can be attacked and killed before it activated its power. This is in fact the only way to counter the spell.
“Authority points”. These points are used to temporary (given back at the beginning of the turn) or permanently increase a skill or cast a spell. Note the number of point you got determines the initiative during the turn. All your strategy will depend of these points. This will probably also determine the cost of the character as well.
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The unit for the distance is the “Toise”, more accurate regarding the background. (I don’t know yet the equivalent in centimetres or inches).
une toise = one inch
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You know these miniatures are beautiful but for some one like me, the average gamer who using a highlight and oil wash is adventurous :o they frighten the hell out of me and so I would avoid buying them. They are definately in the French confrontation vein etc, beautiful little works of art :)
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(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id53/hde001-asaliah_2.jpg)
Anyway, find below the translation describing Asaliah, the rebelled angel.
The first time I heard her name was during an expedition in High Kohut.
Our leaders wanted a deep report regarding the activities of the damned living into the swamp of the possessed. This long piece of land, next to one of our main resupplying road, was absolutely not safe. Lots of convoy were attacked by a dark guy, devil or great devil, or something similar…
The expedition was a success after only two weeks: we properly killed the damned. We decided to save the one who looked cleaver than the others, and leaved him with the exorcists of our group.
Priests interrogated him showing no mercy and it was with a real pleasure they tortured his body. At least they asked him to recognise our God. Even there they ask to respect rules…what a strange people!
The damned appeared more resistant than we were expecting. Close to death he kept telling obscenities and laughed before his judges. I should say I was amazed by this weird situation.
Suddenly, time stopped and the poor guy stared at me and whispered something:
“It’s time Soldier, she’s coming! She wants what own her! She asks revenge! Take care; she has lot of armies under her control! Asaliah is our saviour. May her name be venerated in Hell”
Priest decided to achieve him. But before they advised him God will protect us. The damned said them Asaliah was an angel, and has already denied God a long time ago.
This day our priest discovered terror and felt deep fear inside their body.
Legends start growing, and not every one was benefit to us.
I can say this damned scarred me. Since this day I can feel a shadow, a spirit coming to me. And the feminine voice always tells me the same thing: “Aidan, be ready to welcome me. I’m coming…”
Aidan Saint James, memories of an old soldier
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:o WOOOW :o
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The painting is very impressive, very smooth shading.
Olivier
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The unit for the distance is the “Toise”, more accurate regarding the background. (I don’t know yet the equivalent in centimetres or inches).
une toise = one inch
I always belive that one toise (from Paris not from Tour) or another county) for 1,92m in the real live. But in game, with 25mm scale, it's more near one inch may be :wink:
Stéphane
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:o :o I can't wait for this to be released. Anyone have any idea as to the cost. I may have to have a weekend over the water to pick some up Starters before the English version comes out
Fritzy
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An english Blog ist out not much information at the moment:
http://www.asmodee-us.com/games/hell-dorado/hell-dorado.php
(http://www.asmodee-us.com/ressources/gallery/image_id91/image_large.jpg)
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(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id55/hoc009-arquebusier-3.jpg)
The arquebusiers constitute large troop of the Western faction. These troupiers are however an elite from their presence in the Hells. They have strong experience of the battle fields and are very skilful with the sword and the arquebus. Protected behind their iron armours, they are directed by sergeants like celebrates it Aidan Saint James.
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This game looks very promising. I love the miniatures (The Arabian faction so far looks fantastic, I think) and the background mixing historical and fantastical ideas sounds really cool.
The English book will arrive somewhere between august and octobre IIRC, and I guess the visitors at Essen Spiel will see some new eye candy this year...
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(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id56/heg007-retiere.jpg)
The Retiarius
These bullies look like humans excepted their head, which seams covered by a strange helmet. Looking closer, helmet and skin join together, as it generally happens for the damned: It is like if their pugnacity, their killer instincts and their malevolence were impregnated in their body, like if their demonic soul took a physical form…
The face leaves place to two big fangs, like some insect gets. They present some parts of armor that don’t cover all their body, and wear a spare that resembles to enormous pliers. They also fight with a heavy net they use to catch their foe before they charge and eviscerate him…
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:o :D :love:
That last one is just amazing! Even if I don't play, so far I must get all the demons...
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New infos from TGN:
Regarding the miniatures and the prices I collected more details:
The rulebook will be 35 Euro
Note a free version of the rules only (no background or illustrations) will be available to download on the website as soon the game will be sold out.
Starters (8 to 12 miniatures inside) will be 40 euro
Extensions (blister of one main character or up to three basic warriors) to come every two months will be 8 to 10 euros
Note it seems each extension will be collectors: Asmodei will produce it again when it is out of stock.
Every miniature is metallic.
Be aware there is no “twins” into an army, even basic soldiers are different.
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The first two boxes:
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id58/boite-3d-demons_2.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id58/boite-3d-occidentaux.jpg)
Each box set will have a set of quickstart rules and enough minis to field a complete warband. Extra troops/charcters will be available in blisters.
So yes, if you just want minis from a faction, you can just get those alone.
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These really look amazing- those boxes have me salivating. Has any of our French members seen the free rules yet? I may have missed a scale mention but are these 'trad' 28mm or 'heroic' 28s-32s?
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These really look amazing- those boxes have me salivating. Has any of our French members seen the free rules yet? I may have missed a scale mention but are these 'trad' 28mm or 'heroic' 28s-32s?
I see the minis they are Heroic 32mm size, like confrontation's one
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Are the boxes already for sale?
The "Occidental" set looks like it can be used for Swashbucking Adventures!
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the next two boxes:
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id59/boite-3d-egares2.jpg)
The Stray ones, slaves released their infernal chains and carried out by Bran Carnoth, the terrible lord of war.
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id59/boite-3d-sarrasins2.jpg)
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:o
Yep, this is gonna cost me a bit...
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A slinger with its victim:
(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id62/heg002-frondeuse.jpg)
(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id62/heg003-porteur.jpg)
(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id62/heg003-porteur-dos.jpg)
(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id62/079-coul-traqueur-frondeuse_3.jpg)
It seems Hell is filled of dead body, putrefaction and worms…
Take as example this unfortunate creature who looks like an obese corpse slowly eaten by maggots as big as a human fist. It always follows its master, an evil preacher who gets some daemonic traits. Her right breast has been removed the same way it was done for the amazons in the past, and you may now see there a large pink scar. But the most disgusting trait is certainly her left arm similar to an insect one, made from a dark and shiny matter. She visibly doesn’t matter about it and uses it with ease, showing more dexterity than a human with his hand.
Her slave follows her everywhere she goes. The surface of its skin is constantly agitated. It skin and its abdomen undulate as the surface of the water when you throw a rock into it. It’s because enormous worms always on the move fill its stomach and all its body. These are repulsive predators with their small but incisive teeth, and they are agitated as long they can feel human flesh, attracted by the blood.
However the mistress hands the worms showing no fear and place them in her slingshot she can project them on her foes. When they hit, they provoke panic and dolor as they start swallowing the skin and penetrating into the body to slowly eat every organs.
The slingshot holder speaks sometimes with the “Audacious” (Noted as a name in the text, not as a adjective) but never gives attention to somebody else, even her servitor who cries next to her. This one never speaks, sometimes because of its permanent pain or because of a worm staying into his throat or eating his tongue. But strangely, like Prometheus, he is eaten alive but heals every day. In the evening his condition is so poor you may see some organs or bones of its body and his face is so damaged you can’t recognize him. I don’t mention his members just strong enough to allow him to move. But in the next morning he magically gets back his fat body so the worm still have some meat to eat. His pain is endless and his agony is perpetual. Most unbelievable, you may sometime notice a quick smile on his face, like if he understood a truth we will never understand…
Text from “Story of a journey in Hell”, from Antonio Guccini, mercenary at the sold of the Captain Eduardo Spada.
an assasin:
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id61/066-coul-maure_2.jpg)
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I never liked splatter movies and have no real affinity towards zombie movies but this is just great stuff! I just love the Dante Alighieri-like theme and concepts which have to be derrived from Hieronymus Bosch and Gustave Dore. That last maggot-swinging greek godess is definitely one of my favorites.
I wonder if I can issue a restraining order on myself?
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Box contents info:
Helldorado Westerners box set contents
TGN reader Darth-swen has sent along a translation of the contents of the Westerners box for Helldorado.
Musketeer: basic warrior armed with a musket, common weapon at this period. Note you need two rounds to reload it and be aware you can’t do anything else during this time. The range of the weapon is not unlimited but still impressive (8 toises/inches=short, 16 toises=long => +1 DEF of the defender).
The musketeer are quite weak with only 4 Vitality points, which means he can easily die in one single round. Musketeers are good gunners with 3 attack dice when static and only 1 after a movement.
Preacher: a priest with “aura” spells (direct effect on a specific area, in opposition with “lemur” spell which are cast via a small creature). He may heal or increase the Attack of a character. The preacher is really weak but got specificity. His capacities increase when he is close to die (probably no more than one or two Vitality points)
He hates daemons (2 dices bonus against them). Note Daemon also gains one dice bonus against him.
Sara Zingaresce: Wizard who uses “lemurs” to cast her spells. Be aware she can control one lemur only on the table and she is limited at two invocations per game. Her spells are really powerful but remember the lemurs are easy to kill even if they are not an easy target. Sara is quite weak but has some specific skills for the hand-to-hand combat (the foe is in fire when she touch him).
Sergeant Saint James. Champion musketeer. By spending 4 activation points (which is a lot) he gives you the ability to reload all the muskets (his and the one of his soldiers) instantaneous.
Francisco Vargas: really strong and great leader. As commandant he allows you to activate a Via Sali (1 commandment point spent = gain of 1 activation point) or a Via Victis (1 commandment point spent = 1 dice bonus in HtH skill), as long he is alive. Note as Hero he also gives a +1 dice bonus in a specific range around him.
Anna Bogna Pavlova (aka the Fat Lady). A real killer with a range of 2 toises in HtH, a regeneration capacity and skills increased when close to die. She has a specific rule to make Body Guard of a designated character.
The “Gascon” duelist: this nice looking guy with his mustache is quite powerful. Good fighter who may ask his foe to re-dice a winning attack. He has a counter attack with his pistol before he starts the HtH. A really interested capacity: He may definitively gain a 2 dice bonus to most of his skills by spending 2 commandment points (definitively lost for the game)
Lemurs: two lemurs in this box. Note all lemurs are different regarding their capacities: for example one is really fast but with only one vitality point, another may move underground and another may climb…Note lemurs of each team are available for every wizard so you may choose the one your wizard summoned even if it is not initially from your army.
Note only to army boxes get lemurs: the daemon and the westerners. Lemurs could be available for lost army in a future extension. Saracens don’t use daemonic spells so they will not need similar extension.
Helldorado Daemons box set contents
In addition to the Westerners box set contents we also have a list of the units in the Daemons boxed set for Helldorado.
Damned of the Laziness: slow (2 toises movement, could not run), attractive (his Lazy zone covers a 3 toises area around him. When a foe enters into this zone it has only three choices: to fight him, to do nothing or to retreat - giving the daemon one attack of opportunity without riposte possible). The daemon is very static but really resistant (14 vitality points, which is the average value of a human hero)
Damned of the Anger: the perfect opposite of the Laziness: this guy is a berserk who will fight without malus. (Remember there is a malus when you move and charge in a round)
Succubus: Good fighter, even better against males who need a 6 to hit her. She may sacrifice some command points to increase her skills, including her movement. Specific and dangerous rule: If she lost more than one vitality point from the same foe, he automatically loses one vitality point as well.
Fallen Angel: this hero is a better wizard than Sara. She may control up to two lemurs on the table (but may only cast one per turn). Also receives a lot of spells based on faith. These spells are various: one spell of mind control, one spell for a Napalm Bomb (the effects of this bomb increase every turn). As a Healer she may spend 4 command points to give back up to 8 vitality points to all the members of her team. Be aware by doing this she will have only 2 or 3 commandment points max until the end of the game, which is really low.
The Infernal Negotiator: Strong commander. Gets a really amazing ability: may cancel a Vae Soli and Vae Victis. (See Vargas from Westerners list for detail). Note that in this case Vargas doesn’t have his command points back.
And finally two lemurs. (See Westerner list for detail)
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Damn, this will be expensive, I think I need one box of each faction! :D
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I'm leaning more and more towards the Occidentals: rapiers, catholic priests, sorcerer babes (shwing!) and the Fat Lady, what more could you want? Plus, they sound like a pretty variable faction, with lead-from-afar, coruscating-pain-from-a-wand and knuckly-pain-in-your-face capabilities.
On the other hand, daemons are eeville. Ach, the pain of decision!
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I might get the Westerners. The demons aren't doing anything for me.
"Demons of Laziness" might be what is preventing me from getting anything painted this week! :lol:
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"Demons of Laziness"
That would be the cardinal sin of sloth, and you're going to Hell(Dorado?) for it :P
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That would be the cardinal sin of sloth, and you're going to Hell(Dorado?) for it :P
Yes, but my grave will be marked by two massive standing stones: One made from my pile of unpainted lead, and one made from my online postcounts. Tourist guidebooks will talk about the Peterbarrow and there might even be a little archeological museum next door.
Oh god, how depressing.
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Sara Zingaresce: Wizard who uses “lemurs” to cast her spells.
What is this "lemur" thing? Why are they throwing primates at each other?
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What is this "lemur" thing? Why are they throwing primates at each other?
"Lemur" is Latin for devil or demon or something (which I wouldn't have known either if I hadn't played a lot of D&D back in the days of the first Monster Manual!) So they're sort of demons that work like magic spells.
Although the idea of hurling primates has considerable appeal.
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Although the idea of hurling primates has considerable appeal.
Yes, for a moment there I was hoping. There are, after all, plenty of "kriegs affe" and Soviet gorilla hybrids in the Weird War II setting.
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Actually, it wouldn´t be too far off to consider them monkeykin...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/Monkeys.jpg/250px-Monkeys.jpg)
(http://madarts.wamigge.de/images/blog/061004_monkeys.jpg)
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Actually, it wouldn´t be too far off to consider them monkeykin...
Right and Eurekas is actually making them.
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Thank's for that Simpsons picture Chris! I remember this scene very well and I was laughing till it hurt.
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Helldorado Lost and Saracen box contents
Darth Swen has sent along a list of the contents for the Helldorado Lost and Daemon boxed sets. These are not as detailed as the previous boxed set lists as Asmodee appears to not have released as much information
The Lost
* Bran Carnoth: the commandant of this faction.
* 2 “crocodile men”
* 1 dog with two heads
* The slingshot holder and her slave
* 2 Retiare with insect traits
Saracen
* A panther with six eyes
* Nazir bin Hamid: The wizard on the shoulders of his slave
* 3 Sanctified warriors
* 1 large warrior wielding a halberd
* 1 similar warrior but with a scimitar and a shield
* 2 additional warriors
* 1 assassin (see concept art on the Helldorado blog)
* A Djinn
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Crocodile men, retarius, and close-up of the first board here:
http://www.creafigs.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=181546
Some more Alkemy as well...
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Terrain building, the french way :love: :love:
(http://www.ttcreation.com/galleries_evenmts/printemps_du_jeu/images/IMG_4912.jpg)
:D
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*insert gratuitous ambiguous comment on hills et al*
Dead serious, now: That gorge terrain piece looks very nice, although I suspect it might be a diorama? Even with single-figure skirmish games, it might prove difficult to place minis on...
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I don't think the French way of terrain building is so much different to the way all other people do it...
You're right, this is only a diorama (http://www.ttcreation.com/galleries_evenmts/printemps_du_jeu/images/IMG_4969.jpg). Either that or the French way of gaming is without bases under their figures.
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The master, Thomas David, at work:
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id37/thomas.jpg)
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I don't think the French way of terrain building is so much different to the way all other people do it...
You're right, this is only a diorama (http://www.ttcreation.com/galleries_evenmts/printemps_du_jeu/images/IMG_4969.jpg). Either that or the French way of gaming is without bases under their figures.
Yes, but they do it with panache and elan. :lol:
They're also very experimental. I'm sure there are some French gamers who are trying to figure out how to game without bases.
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(http://www.ttcreation.com/galleries_evenmts/printemps_du_jeu/images/IMG_4903.jpg)
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A busty French girl who makes great terrain?....
I'd better leave now, as those Japanese triplets in schoolgirl uniforms should be arriving...right... NOW!
:roll:
Back to reality, I really want these minis! I may just pony up for the 4 starters, and work my way from there. :D
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Mercenary faction:
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id65/icone-mercenaires-grand-a-p_2.jpg)
(http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id65/voyageuse.jpg)
A mercenary is not just somebody who fights only for money. My opinion is if God should remove from earth every guy who uses his sword to earn some coins, believe me there will be no place in this world where you may find an army, and no place secure anymore. The truth is there is no warrior if there is no payment.
So do we have now to say a mercenary is somebody who doesn’t fight for his King and his country? It was right yesterday, but if it is still right today, our New Jerusalem province is most certainly a mercenary province where you may see warrior from lots of different countries serving the same King, our King.
Now if you consider that a mercenary is somebody who fights taking no care of his friends/foes traits (human, daemon, Christian, Saracen, living or dead…), then YES, I am proud to call myself a Mercenary.
It is fair to say our corporation counts a lot of rogues. I agree this point and will not debate about it. But accept it is exact for most professions, even for the religious. I am not saying that to hurt you, Father, but I met some who were not as kind as you. You may argue every bad guy can sold his services for money. But to become a leader into a mercenary group, you have to show more than fighting skills. You need a perfect ethic as I will explain you now.
Let me explain it taking the Damned Gilles de Rais as example. You must know his name: this Lord scandalized so much when he was alive, and more after his death, than he became a legend everybody knows. Father Boniface is right when you consider his history so I will not lie about Gilles de Rais: He was an evil foul who loves nothing more
than kill for pleasure and deal with Satan…
After the raid we did in Neuva Cadix, a Spain city, Gilles decided to play “mystère de Lilith” every day for the prisoners. Remember he loved theater. The story of this play, horrible and totally unmoral, presented some sacrifices and we lost actors every days. Of course these actor were Spanish prisoners and Gilles de Rays, hidden behind the curtains, enjoyed to see the face of their friends looking them suffering and dying this way. But believe it or not, he was also the best leader I never met, and probably one of the best in New Jerusalem. He is strict, he his rude, he could be cruel and merciless, but every decision he took for he men was fair and just. He never blame a soldier if he didn’t deserve it. This is why no men from his company tried to desert but always followed him everywhere he gone. And believe me, this is not a easy thing with mercenaries…
Letter from Rogue Etienne Pinsol to Father Alois, priest who took care of him when he was younger.
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Nice mini, although I was hoping for something more interesting than a merc faction for the mysterious 5th...
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And she's a limited edition when you buy the rulebook? Probably only the French version months before I can get it. (not to mention my French is poor enough, esp. to test it against wargames rules...)
:x :cry:
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That kukri looking thing, what's that called? Glaive?
Anyway, great looking.
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That kukri looking thing, what's that called? Glaive?
That "kukri looking thing" is a kukri. A glaive is a blade on a pole.
Damn, another box, this is getting much too expensive.
Uh, if I only had read that website earlier! Today I could have gone to Strasbourg and watched some games of Helldorado!
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New Pictures of the painted Saracen box.
Sorry can not post pictures here it is in a Flash player:
http://helldorado.fr/la-compagnie-du-nazir-ibn-hamid-ibn-hajjad-news.php
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I'll get the Saracens, lovely set of figures.
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Yep. those Saracens are gunna make great Turanians for my Broadsword Adventures games.
Chuck
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Asmodee will be at Canadian BayCon, right up in Hamilton, Ontario, abt 1 hour's drive from me, but the con organizer dosen't know if they'll have Hell Dorado!? :x :roll:
I'm dying to take a chance, but it would mean 2hrs roundtrip w/ a 3yr old. :D
If it was just me, sure, drive up, check out the place, get my HD or not, and have a few games and/or swell Canadian brews before heading home, but w/ the lad, it really would be a chore, not that he isn't a fun guy, but once that 8:00 bedtime passes, his mood steadily worsens...
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but the con organizer dosen't know if they'll have Hell Dorado!?
Probably not. I think the Asmodee overseas hasn't to do anything with the game development either.
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Photos of the Demons box are up at the site. Just :o ! This is the first time I want every mini from a line... Just amazing stuff.
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Photos of the Demons box are up at the site. Just :o ! This is the first time I want every mini from a line... Just amazing stuff.
here is the link (sorry Flash again):
http://www.helldorado.fr/asaliah-et-sa-horde-demoniaque-news.php
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pictures of the Conquistadore:
http://helldorado.fr/la-compagnie-franche-du-capitaine-francisco-vargas-news.php
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Just need a confirmed price in US$, and I can decide...
if I need a second mortgage. :D
This is really the least interesting of the sets so far, but the gypsy and a few others are still very nice.
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Here are the pictures from the last starter Box the Lost Faction:
http://www.helldorado.fr/bran-carnoth-et-ses-affranchis-news.php
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Rule book cover:
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id71/couv-helldorado.jpg)
The book of rules of Hell Dorado is a work of 208 pages, entirely color. It contains the complete rules to play, compose its army, to paint its figurines and to create its own decorations. The backround of the play is completely presented, as well as the various involved forces. The characteristics of the combatants of the 5 factions (demons, mislaid, Western, saracen and mercenaries) there are described with precision, decorated each time of a short news. The guide of play also includes/understands a selection of scenarios as well as specific instructions of the decorations. The book of rules of Hell Dorado will be available in all the good crèmeries (like in Gencon Paris) as from May 26. The exit of the book of rules of Hell Dorado is associated an offer of launching: for the purchase of a specimen of the book, you will receive an exclusive figurine, Voyageuse. You near your retailer inform to profit from this offer (valid until exhaustion of stock).
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The book of rules of Hell Dorado is a work of 208 pages, entirely color. It contains the complete rules to play, compose its army, to paint its figurines and to create its own decorations. The backround of the play is completely presented, as well as the various involved forces. The characteristics of the combatants of the 5 factions (demons, mislaid, Western, saracen and mercenaries) there are described with precision, decorated each time of a short news. The guide of play also includes/understands a selection of scenarios as well as specific instructions of the decorations. The book of rules of Hell Dorado will be available in all the good crèmeries (like in Gencon Paris) as from May 26. The exit of the book of rules of Hell Dorado is associated an offer of launching: for the purchase of a specimen of the book, you will receive an exclusive figurine, Voyageuse. You near your retailer inform to profit from this offer (valid until exhaustion of stock).
Boy! i love to read English translated by a non-native speaker or a software package! seriously, i do! it reminds me of speaking with my great-grandmother, and her reading the Polish Daily newspaper to me. it was written inPolish and she would translate to broken English for me. ah, memories!! :cry:
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for the purchase of a specimen of the book
Oooohhh... Evil plot....
The book is a living entity who will steal your soul and make you compulsory buyer of Helldorado miniatures...
Clever frenchs... :D :D :D :D
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Boy! i love to read English translated by a non-native speaker or a software package! seriously, i do! it reminds me of speaking with my great-grandmother, and her reading the Polish Daily newspaper to me. it was written inPolish and she would translate to broken English for me. ah, memories!! :cry:
For such kind of not topic relevant comments we have the Open talk section :twisted:
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Will the game be available through the asmodee online store, or do you know where I might I get the game afterwards (the 26.)?
I *do* know my usual stores (in Germany) have not yet received informations about availabilities.
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Will the game be available through the asmodee online store, or do you know where I might I get the game afterwards (the 26.)?
I *do* know my usual stores (in Germany) have not yet received informations about availabilities.
Try this shop:
http://www.philibertnet.com/jeux-figurines-hell-dorado-c-1_715.html?osCsid=64ac9d7cf0c83a5481ecba1618e1d3d7
I send him an e-mail in english and told him what I want to have and he send
me an invoice - the product arrived quite fast.
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Two example pages from the rulebook :D
(http://storage.canalblog.com/68/19/299441/13244685.jpg)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/24/78/299441/13244704.jpg)
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Try this shop:
http://www.philibertnet.com/jeux-figurines-hell-dorado-c-1_715.html?osCsid=64ac9d7cf0c83a5481ecba1618e1d3d7
Thank you much. Just placed my order. My, he has some interesting pre-order sets. Loki you are my hero (today :D )
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Thank you much. Just placed my order. My, he has some interesting pre-order sets. Loki you are my hero (today :D )
No problem :wink:
When you receive the stuff - tell about them or the rules.
Do you come from Germany - if yes which area ?
Greetings
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When you receive the stuff - tell about them or the rules.
Do you come from Germany - if yes which area ?
Greetings
Will do. Since I saw the first artwork in Ravage I was intrigued and it slowly became clear for me to get my fumbling hands at those minis :D
Originally I come from Luxembourg but since a few years we have moved to Hesse, roughly between Cologne, Wiesbaden and Francfort. Talk about history it turned out that the greater Region where we live in (Nassau) has still a relationship with our luxembourgisch Grand-ducal house. :wink:
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Hello,
artshiraz was so kind and did this great translation job for us.
Thanks to him :mrgreen:
Recruitment card analyses
Today we will present you the caracteristics of a recruitment card with the help of our friendly missionary who's always happy to act.
Each combatant on the battlefield is defined by a series of coded caracteristics which you'll find on all recruitment cards.
On most cards these caracteristics are printed in two different colors: in black and green. The value in green is the important one when the the combatant is hit. Exception: in case of life points the value in green means the time from which on the combatant is supposidly hit.
(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id70/carte_4.jpg)
Movement (DPT)
This value indicates the number of fields the combatant can move in a play turn, when moving normally. This value can be changed regularly depending on the combatants actions and the orders they receive.
Schoot (TIR)
This value represents a D6. It means the number of dices used by this combatant when he makes an attack with a long-range weapon (arrows, throwing knifes, grenades, etc) This caracteristic shows the markmanship with this weapon.
Combat (CBT)
This value represents a D6 number. It shows the number of dices used. This caracteristic shows the hand-to-hand combat profience, the physical battle abilities and equipment of this combatant. It shows both the beserk furie and the cold-headed experience.
Defense (DEF)
As the name says, this caracteristic shows the difficulty to hit the combatant while in combat. It is against this caracteristic that adversary forces will make their attack rolls in hand-to-hand (and to a certain extend long range). This caracteristic shows everything at once. Rapidity, agility and martial art of a combatant. Normally Defense can't be higher than 5. In very few cases though -and every time pointed out as such- Defense can be 6.
Protection (PR)
This value means armor (natural or not) and the ability to stomach hits. It will be discounted against total damage points after an attack.
Life Point (PV)
This value shows the number of damage points the combatant can stomach before dying in battle. If this value is accompanied by a second value in red print, this last (red) value will mean an injury value (VB). The initial life points value will diminish after each taken and accounted damage. This new life point value will then be considered actual life point value. A combatant is dead when his total life point value is equal or below 0 (zero).
A combatant is considered injured if his life point value is equal or below the value in red print (VB).
Faith (FOI)
This value shows the spiritual force of the combatant and can be considered a bonus in respect of the magical effects of the combatants own faith (creed). But it is also an instrument to resist hostile magic powers. A combattant who has the keyword "disbelieving" (faithless) doesn't have this caracteristic. Each game procedure using this caracteristic doesn't affect such a combatant.
Command (CMD)
This caracteristic shows the ability of the combatant in affecting his allies in combat. This value is added to the command total of the company -at the game start. When a combatant with command value (at least 1) is eliminated, this value is instantly discounted from both the base command value and the actual command value.
Weapon caracteristics
Powertable
The power of the weapons is shown by a powertable, showing the number of damage done after a damage roll.
For contact (hand-to-hand) weapons, this value means power of the combatant as well as the weight of the weapons and the ability to "hit".
For long-range weapons, this caracteristic is, at once, an account/affinity of the combatant for certain weapons (bow, sling, throwing weapons, ..) and the natural impact power of the said weapon (crossbow bolts, frontloader bullets).
Each powertable shows the damage from 1-5 hits, even if the combatant can't be hit that often. This is made so that possible positive modificators might negate the hits.
Some special effects can be released after a number of hits has been reached.
The player controlling the combatant can always choose to inflict fewer hits than his attack roll has shown (even no hit at all).
Example: a sucubus using her whips will have the following powertable
Number of hits / Number of damage
1 / 3
2 / 4 + pain 2
3 / 6
4 / 8
5 / 6 + putting down
In her attack roll she gets 3 hits against an adversary. So she can cause 6 damage points. She also has the possibility to consider causing only 2 hits, but giving "pain" for 2 turns. Or she might choose inflicting only 1 hit and 3 damage points or even 0 hits and so no damage at all.
Range (for long range weapons)
This value is used for long range difficulties. It shows the amount of fields. This value is multiplied to get the difficulty threshold in relation of the distance between assailant and objective.
Type of damage
Most weapons have a keyword telling the type of damage the weapon causes. Most often this will be piercing, carving or blunt. But you might find more exotic ones like stare, breathing, etc.. This keyword doesn't (generally) affect the game directly, but is used to release some special skills. Some weapons have a few types of damage.
(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id70/spadassin.jpg)
Weapon skills
Some weapons have special skills which can be used to differentiate them.
Nature of the combatants
Each combatant is defined by a certain amount of keywords
used to define him more corectly. These keywords are used to decide if the combatant can be the aim of a special attack, if he is affected by magical effects, etc..
Practical Magic
*Infernaliste x/y
These are the combatants controling lemures. This keyword is particular in the way that the word is followed by two values telling the amount of lemures the combatant can control at the same time (x) and the total number of lemures he can use during the game (y).
*Mentaliste
Combatants having one or more auras
Base width
Each combatant in Hell Dorado is placed upon a base corresponding to their own height and weight. There are three base types and certain game mecanics use them ( see fig.1)
-middle sized base (30mm)
-large sized base (40mm)
-huge sized base (50mm)
(http://www.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id70/fig1.jpg)
Worth (Value), faction and singleness (of combatant)
each combatant is worth a certain amount of army points. This represents the power of the combatant on the battlefield. Normally a company is composed by miniatures whose army points totalis not higher than 200.
Each combatant will be member of one of the five different factions (westerners, crusaders, demons, damneds and mercenaries). Mercenaries have a certain tolerance against the other factions and can thus be employed by each of them (with certain conditions).
Each combatant has a singleness which represents the way he can be recruited into a company.
*Unique
This combatant is named. There can only be one of this name in a company no matter the size of said company.
*Limited x
This combatant can be used a couple of times in a company. It is possible to recruit x-times this combatant for each (200 army point) part.
*Unlimited
There is no limitation of use for this combatant. He can be recruited as often as the company allows. This is the default value for each combatant.
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Upcomming minis :love:
(http://www.massimilianobussi.com/gencon/DSCN1213.jpg)
and a new demotable:
(http://www.massimilianobussi.com/gencon/DSCN1212.jpg)
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new models wave 2:
Samael (officier démon)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/01/50/299441/13573711.jpg)
Foulques le noir (indépendant dans la boîte de Samael)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/00/50/299441/13573738.jpg)
Baptiste (officier occidental)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/16/24/299441/13573774.jpg)
Messire Valet (indépendant dans la boîte de Baptiste)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/71/65/299441/13573797.jpg)
Tarik (officier sarrasin)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/82/77/299441/13573822.jpg)
Aigle de Chasse (dans la boîte de Tarik)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/85/47/299441/13573858.jpg)
Isha (officier égaré)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/02/36/299441/13573949.jpg)
Isaia (indépendant mercenaire)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/93/75/299441/13573930.jpg)
Golem (indépendant mercenaire dans la boîte d'Isaia)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/63/29/299441/13573972.jpg)
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New Models wave 3:
Grand damné de la colère (indépendant démon)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/06/91/299441/13574159.jpg)
Gueule des abysses (indépendant égaré)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/24/94/299441/13574266.jpg)
Don Quichotte (officier mercenaire)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/00/67/299441/13574286.jpg)
Alchimiste (indépendant sarrasin)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/95/48/299441/13574334.jpg)
Lancier (indépendant sarrasin)
(http://storage.canalblog.com/20/05/299441/13574355.jpg)
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This is all looking so great
BUT
I WON'T order a book I can't read just to get a limited miniature! Damn!! :x
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The blog diary (http://helldorado.fr/) about Helldorado folds. With the release of the game they won't update the site anymore.
Last piece of news though is (http://test.helldorado.fr/ressources/medias/news_id74/golden-ticket-4.jpg)
the release of the Golden Tickets.
Four (4) golden tickets have been hidden in the different boxes (one per faction).
The lucky devil(s) (pun intended 8) )
will receive one miniature of their corresponding faction...
painted by Thomas David or Jacques-Alexandre Gillois,
the two in-house painters of asmodee.
AND NO... I didn't get one :cry:
:lol:
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Can anybody make out what this Baptiste mini (you know, the monsterhunter chap) has on his back?
btw, I love the inscription on the Golem.
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Can anybody make out what this Baptiste mini (you know, the monsterhunter chap) has on his back?
btw, I love the inscription on the Golem.
A "Stalin Organ". :)
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btw, I love the inscription on the Golem.
What does it mean?
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I am no real authority on jewish folklore but I know my Terry Pratchett:
It must it's chem (name), which is one of the many names of God, most often the word "Emet" which means "Truth". By erazing the first syllable you get "Met" which means "Death" and thus you immobilize it.
I wonder if they are going to make a rabbi to go with it.
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My degenerate knowledge of French would seem to imply the Golem is some sort of bodyguard or special figure summoned by the independent mercenary, Isaia.
The eagle is very cleverly engineered. Kudos to the sculptor for that one.
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And they've done el Hombre de La Mancha with the proper shaving basin headgear. Rosinante looks quite characterful, too.
I had promised myself not to buy any more minis based on the "but Mom, it's so COOL" argument, but that good intention's just gone out of the window at something approaching Mach 2.
On a more serious and less fannish note: do other people share my perception that Hell Dorado is going to become something of a surprise hit? When I first saw the minis, I said to myself: "Yeah, I'll get some, but the game? Yet another fantasy skirmish? Ain't gonna fly, no way."
But nowadays in the few forums I frequent, there's a substantial proportion of users that have bought into the starters and are clamouring for rules tidbits. That may be helped along by the fact that (the online community's perceptions of) Confrontation in Germany is in its death throes, but still. Quite a surprise for me.
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Unofficial Hell Dorado English translation available
June 4th, 2007
Mathieu Thérézien has posted a PDF version of an unofficial English translation (PDF link) of the recently released Hell Dorado core rules. THe translation was produced by himself and and Sébastien Longuet.
To aid in using this translation with the French cards, some French terms have been included in the translation along with their English equivalent. So when you see Charge tumultueuse on a Hell Dorado card you’ll know that it refers to Frenzied Charge in the translation.
from Tabletop Gaming News:
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=7985
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Thanks Loki- these look good
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new miniatures on their website :
my favorite : (http://helldorado.fr/ressources/secteur/article_id140/alchimiste-news.jpg)
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/secteur/article_id142/damne-news.jpg)
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/secteur/article_id144/gueule-news.jpg)
(http://helldorado.fr/ressources/secteur/article_id146/don-quichotte-news.jpg)
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Once more some fantastic stuff coming from France... I even like the baddies in this game!
Koen
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Love the last one, very Don Quixote :love:
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Love the last one, very Don Quixote :love:
Yep, toatally agree on that one and the half animal/half armoured beastie reminds me of the lion from "The Brotherhood of the Wolf" film :)
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I do like Don Quixote and that armored beastie thing. The big meaty demon less so, but the Arab Alchemist is a pretty cool pose.
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Love the last one, very Don Quixote :love:
Yep, toatally agree on that one and the half animal/half armoured beastie reminds me of the lion from "The Brotherhood of the Wolf" film :)
Ooh Yes you are right :) now, Laughing Monk miniatures produce some suitable figures for the hunter characters I think Fighting 15s and Hobby Box carry these...now look what you have started :D
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Here you go
http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/highwaymen-526-c.asp
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It's not as cool as the Helldorado version but the Company That Shall Not Be Named did a "Brotherhood of the Wolf" Thing-in-the-Woods a couple of years ago:
(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1566/newimagehg0.gif)