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Title: Cap Movie Concept art
Post by: Operator5 on 21 July 2010, 06:41:55 AM
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet...

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-captain-america-comic-con-poster.html

The new Captain America costume for movie.
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Post by: Weird WWII on 21 July 2010, 06:58:25 AM
The shield looks good.

Brian
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Post by: pixelgeek on 21 July 2010, 05:25:13 PM
Like the costume in general. Nice piece of art. Thanks for posting it
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Post by: Agis on 21 July 2010, 07:33:09 PM
I am sooo looking forward to this movie.
Captain America is IMO one of the most interesting characters of all Superheroes...
(OK - I am a bit exited since I am just reading the Ed Brubaker Cap stories...)

I really hope that it will not be spoiled like IM 2...
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Post by: SBMiniaturesGuy on 21 July 2010, 08:10:00 PM
Does this mean they are going to "unkill" Cap in the comic books??
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Post by: Operator5 on 21 July 2010, 08:32:58 PM
I thought they did that already.

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Post by: pixelgeek on 21 July 2010, 08:39:51 PM
I thought they did that already.

They did
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Post by: supervike on 21 July 2010, 08:46:23 PM
Looks cool as heck!
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Post by: SBMiniaturesGuy on 21 July 2010, 09:03:34 PM
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I thought they did that already.

They did

LOL! Tells ya how closely I pay attention to comics. Been a while...Marvel kinda lost me when Jean Grey turned into Dark Phoenix and was killed off, except she wasn't killed off because she had actually been cloned in secret by the Phoenix entity and then placed in a stasis cocoon at the bottom of the ocean, only to be revived after the clone that became the Dark Phoenix was killed...er...whatever...
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Post by: SBMiniaturesGuy on 21 July 2010, 09:33:42 PM
"He wants to serve his country, but he's not this sort of jingoistic American flag-waver," Johnston said. "He's just a good person....It's an international cast and an international story. It's about what makes America great and what make the rest of the world great too.""

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/captain-america-comiccon-2010-captain-america-chris-evans-joe-johnston.html

Greeeaaaattt...a nuanced hero during the fight against bloody Fascism...oh, goodie. o_o
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Post by: white knight on 21 July 2010, 09:42:50 PM
Well, I'm pleasantly surprised it is set in WW2 (I mean, I expected 10-15 minutes in WW2 to explain the origins and then back to our times, as they usually do). So this may make it sort of a Weird War II movie then.  :D

I did prefer the helmet and mask they'd given him in the Ultimates WW2 version of Cap, but you can't have it all I guess. ::)
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Post by: Jakar Nilson on 22 July 2010, 01:43:21 PM
I did prefer the helmet and mask they'd given him in the Ultimates WW2 version of Cap, but you can't have it all I guess. ::)

It beats the costumes from the 70s movies hands down.

So, fourth time the charm for Cap?
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Post by: Rob_bresnen on 22 July 2010, 02:21:36 PM
 :o herr drool drool  ;D

That looks soooooo coooool! Cant wait! thanks for the link!
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Post by: Weird WWII on 22 July 2010, 02:36:28 PM
He's not a patriotic flag waver?!  They are still going to call him Captain AMERICA, right?

Not surprised,
Brian
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Post by: white knight on 22 July 2010, 02:52:13 PM
He's not a patriotic flag waver?! 

But at least they're confident the fans are going to appreciate these changes. Really, after all, what fan would want to see a movie actually be about the thing they're a fan of? That would be crazy.
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Post by: Weird WWII on 22 July 2010, 05:09:56 PM
You hit that right on the mark!

Brian
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Post by: Conquistador on 23 July 2010, 02:09:16 AM
White Knight, So how long have you worked in Hollywood? ;)

You have the "politics" down perfectly. lol

Personally, (for you older readers,) I'd like him to be a little ethnocentric (like Steve Canyon was excessively into a zoomie viewpoint) than be corrected as to the realities of coalition warfare/sacrifice (as Steve Canyon was corrected about there being more than an "air war" going on) by one of his allies, preferably not a Brit because that's the "obvious" choice.

Nothing to belittle the UK/Commonwealth sacrifice from 1939 through 1945 intended.  It just might have more impact from a Pole/Aussie/Canadian/Kiwi/Czech character because it would be so unexpected to most of the American audience.   8)  List truncated lest the point be lost in the listing.   :)

Yeah, that's likely...   ::)

Gracias,

Glenn
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Post by: pixelgeek on 23 July 2010, 03:20:49 AM
He's not a patriotic flag waver?!  They are still going to call him Captain AMERICA, right?

I've never seen Cap as a "flag waving" hero. Maybe they have written him differently in the last little while but I always thought of him as a more serious character and not blindly waving a flag but firm and quiet in his beliefs tempered by the horrors he has seen and experienced.
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Post by: SBRPearce on 23 July 2010, 01:47:22 PM
I'm personally waiting for the scene when Cap arrives in the present-day, and we get to see a basically good person stumbling over some of his 1940s-era unquestioned mindsets as they bump up against the present day. Like, say, meeting Nick Fury.

Samuel L. Jackson: "That's Colonel Fury, Sgt. Rogers..."
Captain America: "But... you're  a negro!"
SLJ: "And still the ranking officer present... [Shakes his head] I can't wait 'til you meet the President!"
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Post by: Scorpio on 23 July 2010, 04:06:17 PM
I've never seen Cap as a "flag waving" hero. Maybe they have written him differently in the last little while but I always thought of him as a more serious character and not blindly waving a flag but firm and quiet in his beliefs tempered by the horrors he has seen and experienced.

Agreed. A lot of Cap's stories over the years have been about him questioning the status quo, and yes, even the government. He'll still be the stand-up hero everyone expects.
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Post by: Jakar Nilson on 23 July 2010, 11:13:24 PM
I've never seen Cap as a "flag waving" hero. Maybe they have written him differently in the last little while but I always thought of him as a more serious character and not blindly waving a flag but firm and quiet in his beliefs tempered by the horrors he has seen and experienced.

Well, he certainly was during WWII, punching Hitler and all that stuff. And once Pearl Harbor happened... The original Kirby/Simon run was as flag waving as you could get.

Once he got thawed out, Cap went through an identity crisis trying to deal with the Sixties, and that's what gave birth to the personality he's harboured since. The old cartoon series (and the Iron Man, Thor, Submariner and Hulk cartoons) are a quick way of looking into the early modern Marvel universe, once you get past the ear-bleeding theme songs and poorly animated scenes that were obviously lifted from the comics...
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Post by: Weird WWII on 24 July 2010, 02:51:48 AM
I think it was disingenuous of Lee to have Cap so self absorbed about Bucky during Nam.  Rogers was still a commissioned officer in the United States Army at his awakening and to just ignore a national conflict no matter what your stance just sucks.  I know Lee choose to stay out of the whole Nam political thing but he was more then happy to tackle American race relations, poverty, drug abuse and tons of other social issues.  The only time Rogers was in Nam in the original cannon was in a single issue where he was fighting some of the Mandarin's troops to save some UN doctor in the warzone. I always thought Cap would be side by side with the troops no matter what the conflict because that is what he is, a soldier, a patriot, a symbol and our flag.  Cap has never been a tool of the government but by God he is a symbol of the United States and to say that he isn't a flag waver, even when he wears it, just lessens the character and pisses me off. >:(  But to be fair, over his run we have had both views as it all comes down to the writer and the editor at the time.

One of the greatest scenes of Cap was in "Blood and Glory" where Castle (ie Punisher) gave him the Vietnam Combat Infantry Badge and said, "You should have been over there.  I'm not saying to condemn.  It's just we needed good men at our backs, Captain.  A soldier needs his allies."  Cap looks down in reflection and as Castle walks away Rogers yells out "Captain Castle!" as he snaps into a salute to a fellow American soldier.  The two salute in the rain in front of the Tomb of the Known soldier.  Now that is some patriotic cheese baby and I want more of it.

But this opinion comes from an evil American bent on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. ;)
Brian


(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/kampfgruppecottrell/Weird%20WWII/781e.jpg)
Title: Re: Cap Movie Concept art
Post by: pixelgeek on 24 July 2010, 03:53:30 AM
Well, he certainly was during WWII, punching Hitler and all that stuff.

Those were horrible, jingoistic products of WWII. :-)

I like how he was portrayed in Ultimates.
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Post by: pixelgeek on 24 July 2010, 03:56:45 AM
Now that is some patriotic cheese baby and I want more of it.

I always find that sort of writing rather cloying and clumsy. Nuanced patriotism is a far more profound thing and it makes for a more believable and appreciable character.
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Post by: Snate56 on 24 July 2010, 08:20:34 AM
I always find that sort of writing rather cloying and clumsy. Nuanced patriotism is a far more profound thing and it makes for a more believable and appreciable character.

You're right, a little bit goes a long way, but there should be a little bit.

Personally, I'd like to see the scene from the Ultimates where he's on the plane and someone says,"How's he supposed to drop with us? Flag-boy's not even wearin' a 'chute!"


SteveN
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Post by: Weird WWII on 24 July 2010, 08:57:12 AM
Ultimates cannon would have to be this.

Classic,
Brian

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/kampfgruppecottrell/captain-americas-forehead-does-not-stand-for-france.jpg)
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Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 24 July 2010, 12:21:37 PM
Avoiding the Hohay-politics, isn't Chris Evans too skinny and frankly, to good-looking to play Cap?

Now that Avengers is being filmed, I'm really looking forward to... Alpha Flight!
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Post by: pixelgeek on 24 July 2010, 03:07:12 PM
Ultimates cannon would have to be this.

Sorry, should have said volume 1. I didn't enjoy the rest of the books.

That second series was insipid and based on this peculiar sense of victimhood that was really disturbing to read and see develop.