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Title: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Colorcrayons on July 31, 2010, 10:36:43 AM
I think you guys are going to like this.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1518

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=126&esem=2
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: commissarmoody on July 31, 2010, 11:36:14 AM
Oh cool, what scale are they?
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: chicklewis on July 31, 2010, 03:49:16 PM
WOW, 48 of 'em !  That's a certain purchase for me.  I'll start saving the $200. 

They look excellent.  Any new on expected availability?
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Svennn on July 31, 2010, 05:49:13 PM
Tere are some sculpts amongst them I would really like - to paint myself
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: LidlessEye on July 31, 2010, 06:07:50 PM
If these are the same figures they were previewing last year, they'll be 32mm.  Interesting they decided to go ahead with the whole line, as the negative reaction was fairly extreme.  Mind you, that had a great deal to do with the choice to package two figures in an enormous box at $12.95, so this approach should be more palatable to both players and retailers.

Do wish they were going to sell unpainted metal as well though.  It's not as though it'd be a new area for them (Anima Tactics are metal), but I suppose they're primarily targeting the boardgame crowd rather than hobbyists.  Alas for those of us that are both!
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on July 31, 2010, 06:43:46 PM
Interesting, I had thought the line was canceled as well.  $3.99 a pop is better than $12.95 for two figures.  Still I would have liked if they either offered the miniatures unpainted for lower price, a full set with some extra cards thrown in it.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: matakishi on July 31, 2010, 06:55:16 PM
Badly painted plastic for $4.00?
There doesn't seem to be anything here that isn't already covered in many metal lines for less outlay. I don't see the appeal.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Heldrak on July 31, 2010, 07:01:55 PM
An interesting idea - A lot of the models look oddly-proportioned with tiny pea heads, however...
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Colorcrayons on July 31, 2010, 11:22:22 PM
I havent seen them on display at the Event center yet, Chick. Best guess by asking the guys at FFG was they should all be released by Christmas and releasing 8 at a time for four months.

I too would have prefferred unpainted metals (as I am sure most of us here would since this is a hobby site) but considering what you get for the price, it isnt that bad. Hell, anima tactics models typically go for $10 a piece and while much better sculpts, they are still unpainted.

If I get them I am most assuredly repainting them as well. But considering the price I dont think its a horrible deal. Lots of unpainted models go for that much or more so its the best of both worlds if you prefer not to paint.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Donpimpom on July 31, 2010, 11:48:08 PM
to me they look a bit weird, isn't?  ???
The style makes me think in miniatures for railway modelism.
mm... probably weird is no the right word.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: JollyBob on August 02, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
Pretty poor do, really. There's maybe half a dozen that I'd pick up if I saw them cheap at a show, but it'd be to repaint myself. And a fair few of them look like they've been used as dog chews.

Think I'd still rather get Artizan metals for £2 a fig. 
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: supervike on August 02, 2010, 03:23:35 PM
Badly painted plastic for $4.00?
There doesn't seem to be anything here that isn't already covered in many metal lines for less outlay. I don't see the appeal.

Other than they look similar to the Game art.  But I agree, 4 bucks is insane.  To each their own, however.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Dolmot on August 02, 2010, 03:28:39 PM
Agreed. If any boardgamer asks me about Arkham miniatures, I'll say they should:

1. Buy ~100 pots of paint, brushes etc.
2. Practise painting for some five years.
3. Spend a few weeks browsing through several obscure garage stores with pulp ranges.
4. Pay for the minis and multiple international shipping batches. Half of them come only in multi-packs with unrelated minis.
5. Clean the casts.
6. Convert a couple of totally unavailable models using putty.
7. Build uniform bases.
8. Undercoat, paint and varnish for heavy duty gaming.
9. All done!

That's less than ten steps. Certainly beats buying a pre-painted, accurate Arkham character for $4.  ::)

OK, seriously. My set should be ready this week. It took roughly a year among other projects, although it only contains the standard set characters without expansions. Surely a fun and challenging project for a serious lead collector, but the point is that serious lead collectors (with this much free hobby time) form less than 1% of FFG's target audience. This forum is probably not the place to get a representative sample of AH players.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: supervike on August 02, 2010, 05:19:06 PM
That's less than ten steps. Certainly beats buying a pre-painted, accurate Arkham character for $4.  ::)


Point taken.... ;D
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: abhorsen950 on August 02, 2010, 07:13:39 PM
They are very cool and 48 of them!!! Lovely!!!
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Donpimpom on August 03, 2010, 12:23:28 PM
I agree what Dolmot says, we are out of this product target, very probably the average boardgamer is more than happy to have a prepainted miniature to merely replace the cardboard token and don't expect things we consider a miniature model "must have".
I agree also $4 a piece is quite expensive, how many chars are in the basic box? 8? 10? in all, almost as expensive as the game   :(
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Malebolgia on August 03, 2010, 12:41:05 PM
So buy 10 metal miniatures, spend time to enjoy painting them and play with nice miniatures...time and money well spent and Arkham Horror looks more nicely.
Replacing the monsters too...now that sounds both fantastic and insane. :-*
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on August 03, 2010, 06:31:54 PM
One of the projects I've considered doing, that and a leather and mahogany game board.

So buy 10 metal miniatures, spend time to enjoy painting them and play with nice miniatures...time and money well spent and Arkham Horror looks more nicely.
Replacing the monsters too...now that sounds both fantastic and insane. :-*

Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: richarDISNEY on August 05, 2010, 02:50:17 PM
I'm with matakishi on this one.
Pass.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: bc99 on August 05, 2010, 07:46:23 PM
I really have to applaud the effort, but I'm not sure how these will look next to other miniature ranges, and $4 sounds a bit steep for one mini. Anyway, just my thoughts, but I'm glad they put these out, any support for gaming/Cthulhu is great!
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Dolmot on August 05, 2010, 08:33:44 PM
Replacing the monsters too...now that sounds both fantastic and insane. :-*

That's an interesting idea. Now excuse me while I pack some minis for the upcoming AH/SA weekend...

(http://dolmot.net/mini/Arkham/sneak.jpg)

(Sanity is a decreasing function over time on this subforum, by the way.)
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Backyardpatrol on August 05, 2010, 11:41:29 PM
They are selling like hotcakes here at Gencon...
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Malebolgia on August 06, 2010, 09:06:14 AM
That's an interesting idea. Now excuse me while I pack some minis for the upcoming AH/SA weekend...

(http://dolmot.net/mini/Arkham/sneak.jpg)

(Sanity is a decreasing function over time on this subforum, by the way.)

IA! IA! CLUCKING BELL FHTAGN!!! :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on August 06, 2010, 09:24:17 AM
That's an interesting idea. Now excuse me while I pack some minis for the upcoming AH/SA weekend...

(http://dolmot.net/mini/Arkham/sneak.jpg)

Crazy Finn :D
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on August 06, 2010, 05:26:19 PM
very nice collection there
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Uncle Mike on August 06, 2010, 06:25:29 PM
Agreed!
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: kidterminal on August 06, 2010, 06:38:03 PM
I like the idea, but they are poorly sculpted and $4 is a lot for poorly sculpted plastic.

Rob
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Backyardpatrol on August 08, 2010, 01:46:53 AM
I bought these:
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Relic on August 08, 2010, 01:09:23 PM
and they actually ask money for those??!!!

Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: chicklewis on August 08, 2010, 03:19:08 PM
Could you measure them sole-to-eye for us, and report here, please?
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Backyardpatrol on August 08, 2010, 04:16:41 PM
33mm for Mandy, 31 mm for Amanda.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: chicklewis on August 09, 2010, 11:44:30 PM
Thanks, Backyardpatrol !

Really a shame they didn't make 'em smaller.  But I'm a sucker, and I'll purchase them anyway.

Chick
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on August 20, 2010, 08:30:28 PM
I'm hearing on another board that the figures are considerably smaller.  Rather close to true 28mm or even heroic 25mm.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on August 21, 2010, 08:03:30 PM
They've been described to me as having the same base and scale as the pre-painted star wars miniatures.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on October 05, 2010, 11:15:33 PM
Has anyone picked these up, and could you do a comparison shot.  I'm very curious what they are.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Roebeast45 on October 06, 2010, 03:19:45 AM
Hopefully this gives you some idea. The minis are:
(Left to right)
Jim Culver (29mm to eye)
A Copplestone "Jolly Good Chap" (28.5mm to eye)
Luke Robinson (32-33mm to eye)
Diana Stanley (24mm to eye, crouched)
Wargames Factory British Soldier (26mm to eye)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/roebeast45/arkhamminis.jpg)

The bases are 23mm across.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Heldrak on October 06, 2010, 04:06:18 AM
While I applaud the concept on these (a new line of Cthulhu-type investigators from many walks of life), I'm really disliking the execution on them the more I see them... :(
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on October 06, 2010, 04:38:09 AM
The painting or the sculpting (or both)?

While I applaud the concept on these (a new line of Cthulhu-type investigators from many walks of life), I'm really disliking the execution on them the more I see them... :(
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Heldrak on October 06, 2010, 06:49:15 AM
The painting is irrelevant, as they can always be repainted. My problem is with the sculpts. They seem oddly-proportioned with soft detail.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on October 06, 2010, 07:00:08 AM
I wonder if the Mansions of Madness figures will look any better.  Some of the Fantasy Flight figures look pretty good.

The painting is irrelevant, as they can always be repainted. My problem is with the sculpts. They seem oddly-proportioned with soft detail.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: Malebolgia on October 06, 2010, 08:10:17 AM
TBH, the miniatures really look like plastic crap. Really don't see the worth in obtaining them, except for people who aren't into miniature gaming.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on October 06, 2010, 08:59:36 AM
For pre-painted minis, particularly the paint quality they are awfully pricey.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: supervike on October 06, 2010, 09:44:28 PM
TBH, the miniatures really look like plastic crap. Really don't see the worth in obtaining them, except for people who aren't into miniature gaming.

I agree.  They look like bad Hero Clix cast offs.

I really hope the Mansion of Madness ones are better.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on October 07, 2010, 01:59:31 AM
I've found when working with pre-painted minis the sculpts can be quite good, but the paint is layered / caked on so thickly it obscures all of the detail.

I agree.  They look like bad Hero Clix cast offs.

I really hope the Mansion of Madness ones are better.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: supervike on October 08, 2010, 01:13:30 AM
Yeah, that is true at times...although it pains me to pay a more premium price for a painted mini, just to turn around and strip it.

It seems to me that there is nothing wrong with prepainted minis, but why can't those companies also produce the same mini, just without the paint?  A limited run even...I can't see how that would cost anymore (although maybe additional packaging..) 

I don't know, it just seems that the there should be a happy medium for both ready to play gamers, and painters.
Title: Re: Arkham Investogators, new from Fantasy Flight Games
Post by: P_Clapham on October 08, 2010, 06:28:47 AM
MageKnight did that for a while.  I was able amass a sizable collection by trading my painted figures.  l would love it if Heroclix would do that as well.  The unpainted packs were also much cheaper.  Sometimes you can snag unpainted Star Wars or D&D plastic figures off of ebay.  Folks in China selling off the unpainted rejects, or just snagging them when no one is looking.  ;)

Yeah, that is true at times...although it pains me to pay a more premium price for a painted mini, just to turn around and strip it.

It seems to me that there is nothing wrong with prepainted minis, but why can't those companies also produce the same mini, just without the paint?  A limited run even...I can't see how that would cost anymore (although maybe additional packaging..) 

I don't know, it just seems that the there should be a happy medium for both ready to play gamers, and painters.