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Title: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Viper on July 31, 2010, 06:23:38 PM
 :o
(http://www.manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Mantic-Games-Zombie-Preview-2.jpg)

This is a release I'm really looking forward to. Good quality, affordable, plastic zombies...what's not to like.

Also I feel, kinda shown by the picture above, they are easily usable in any setting or timeperiod. The clothes are ragged enough to be non-period specific and if you did want to make them more grounded in a timeperiod it would only take a little sculpting and/or painting them the right way.

Mantic's blog is currently in "zombie week."
http://www.manticblog.com/ (http://www.manticblog.com/)

While Beasts of War have had some great wee videos talking about the models and showing off the 3ups.
http://www.beastsofwar.com/ (http://www.beastsofwar.com/)
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 31, 2010, 07:00:43 PM
The loincloths are a little, well... 'loinclothy' for modern zombies but at £25 for 50 really nice looking zombies I'll just accept that the mortuary wrappings have fallen around the waist :)
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: kidterminal on July 31, 2010, 07:28:54 PM
Yeah these do look nice.  :) I'll have to clip the loincloths and sculpt some pants, but that shouldn't be hard.

Rob
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Lowtardog on July 31, 2010, 07:30:29 PM
The loincloths are a little, well... 'loinclothy' for modern zombies but at £25 for 50 really nice looking zombies I'll just accept that the mortuary wrappings have fallen around the waist :)


Undead Atanteans ::) :D
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Commander Vyper on July 31, 2010, 07:39:01 PM
zombie turkish bar patrons?

;)
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 31, 2010, 08:03:18 PM

Undead Atanteans ::) :D

I was thinking interred Indians or meso-americans for Deadlands actually...

zombie turkish bar patrons?

;)

See, now that's just wrong.
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Commander Vyper on July 31, 2010, 09:57:20 PM
Anyway on a serious note, I like em and all, but they have a little look of slightly more animated dead that I would have liked, some  of the leg sculpts are very dynamic and lend themselves more to the ideal of the ghoul rather than a shabbling stumbling zombie.

Also hoped for and was hinted at more modern clothing, (still fantasy but some trousers, shorts etc...) but they all appear in rags?

I think that combining these parts with the golgo island zombies might make for decent modern zeds, finger's crossed.

The Commander
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on July 31, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
They look like the background dancer in "Relax (don't do it)...

That said, I think I'll by them due to the pricing. I'm just a bit worried about the GW hands...
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 31, 2010, 10:40:55 PM
Anyway on a serious note, I like em and all, but they have a little look of slightly more animated dead that I would have liked, some  of the leg sculpts are very dynamic and lend themselves more to the ideal of the ghoul rather than a shabbling stumbling zombie.

I think they're based more on the modern zombie films/games like Resident Evil and the new Dawn of the Dead, 28 days later etc. The zombies in those are much faster and more threatening. Personally I like them.
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Viper on July 31, 2010, 11:04:24 PM
I don't really get a feel of them being too animated, I mean even the most sluggish of "classic" zombies gets pretty nippy when the food is within arms reach. Also to me it looks like they are putting a lot of effort in, which doesn't instantly mean speed. It does for a fit fully functioning person, but when you're missing random muscles and ligaments it's probably a bit harder.

The picture is very much of the models at a work in progress stage so they can only really get better. For me at least even the work in progress looks better than anything any other company has put out.

Onto the rags/loincloths and suitability for modern and future set games. Well it all depends how old the zombie is and what it's been up to. Even really hardwearing clothes will be shredded down to pretty much nothing rather quickly when the wearer doesn't care what it's getting caught on and is shambling through whatever is in its way.
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Commander Vyper on August 01, 2010, 12:48:18 AM
Pre-ordered from Maelstrom,

51 zombies just over £20!  :D
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: P_Clapham on August 01, 2010, 07:32:22 AM
These have potential ...........  >:D
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on August 01, 2010, 08:52:12 AM
Also pre ordered from Maelsrom, as thier 17.5% off online discount ends today!
Saves even more pennies!

Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: midismirnoff on August 01, 2010, 10:46:17 AM
They're more Zach-Snyderish then other Zs around (= Dawn of the dead, i.e. running instead of shambling); this is the new zombie lore. For people who's grown up watching Romero, they look more like ghouls (a la Fallout3).
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Commander Vyper on August 01, 2010, 10:59:44 AM
They're more Zach-Snyderish then other Zs around (= Dawn of the dead, i.e. running instead of shambling); this is the new zombie lore. For people who's grown up watching Romero, they look more like ghouls (a la Fallout3).

It's not zed lore, more divergent parallel evolution! :D
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on August 01, 2010, 11:01:59 AM
or budget constraints....
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Viper on August 01, 2010, 11:07:59 AM
Mantic's ghouls look like ... well ghouls or like running "zombies"/infected.

That dawn of the dead remake has a lot to answer for, at least in 28 Days Later the infected were NEVER referred to as zombies at any point and in [REC] (the original spanish one atleast) it was never said either.

Really I don't think these zombies look particularly fast, yes they don't look like stiff planks of wood but they also don't look to me like they are sprinting. Rather they are in the "getting close to prey" phase, when the zombie starts lunging forward and being a bit more determined. This is a characteristic often referred to in books and comics about zombies, a surprising turn of speed compared to their usual aimless wandering gait.

Ach well, everyones got their own opinions on what is and isn't right I'm just happy that these fit well with my own views.
 :)
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: soulman on August 01, 2010, 11:26:34 AM
Rec 2 go`s into more detail about the infected, and has a nice spin and something new in ideas, same sort of headshot, blood and teeth, but i liked what they done..

I also liked the two demons films that came out in the 80`s twoo, the one in the cinema..?
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: soulman on August 01, 2010, 11:47:09 AM
Also a new film coming out called "Dead", set in africa, so you good use these zombies because of the clothing -  trailer looks good
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Darkoath on August 01, 2010, 03:28:16 PM
I will be ordering some of these too...  I especially like the hands! :-*  Also the legs make them look like they realised there is a meal nearby and are just rising up to strike! :o

Darkoath
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: midismirnoff on August 01, 2010, 03:46:20 PM
Mantic's ghouls look like ... well ghouls or like running "zombies"/infected.

That dawn of the dead remake has a lot to answer for, at least in 28 Days Later the infected were NEVER referred to as zombies at any point and in [REC] (the original spanish one atleast) it was never said either.

Really I don't think these zombies look particularly fast, yes they don't look like stiff planks of wood but they also don't look to me like they are sprinting. Rather they are in the "getting close to prey" phase, when the zombie starts lunging forward and being a bit more determined. This is a characteristic often referred to in books and comics about zombies, a surprising turn of speed compared to their usual aimless wandering gait.

Ach well, everyones got their own opinions on what is and isn't right I'm just happy that these fit well with my own views.
 :)

I think you're right... still I can't understand what makes these yet beautiful miniatures far from the Zs I have in my head. Maybe they look somehow intelligent, yet in an animal way, where instead in "my" zombie standards they should be completely absent-minded. They're craving too hard to get their "brains".
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: marrony on August 01, 2010, 04:56:24 PM
Nice deadheads...plus fantastic value for big zombie non-hero type undead.
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: consectari on August 02, 2010, 05:26:17 PM
These were designed to mix with the ghouls and the ghouls are fairly compatible with Warlord Games plastic Celts. http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/celtic-warriors-sprue-b-240-p.asp (http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/celtic-warriors-sprue-b-240-p.asp) 

Mix the zeds and the Celts and it's a quick way to give your zeds sweatpants and sports jerseys.  A few of the Celt legs have molded on swords, but these are really easy to clip/shave off.

Not the best clothing options, but usefull if you can't sculpt.
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Viper on August 02, 2010, 06:36:11 PM
Hmm...that is interesting.

The more similar kits the more kitbashing potential the more fun.

You could put the zombie legs on the Celt torsos. I suppose you'd end up with a unit that looked like it had waded through waist deep acid or been running through fire.
 :)
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Argonor on August 04, 2010, 07:00:13 AM
These actually make me think 'I am Legend'.

Ghoulish, they are, anyway, with potential. Will be interesting to see the finished product.

Guess they could also be combined with WF zombies, like I've seen with the ghouls.
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Commander Vyper on November 22, 2010, 11:16:24 AM
Posted up on my zed thread but thought it might be useful for here too:

Well then here we are again.

Not much of an update, had a little play with plastics and bits from the zed bodyparts freezer:

(http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq186/Vyperzoom/RIMG4625Medium.jpg)

Mixture of Mantic zeds and ghouls, GW catachans, & a few of those WGF plastic zeds, only the legs generally, (the rest of the minis are really unuseable, very poor) golgo islands legs and bodies and a west wind zotr zed head for good measure ;). Not too sure on the torso length from the Mantic zed mash ups, (little a little long) may well go back in and reduce them a bit. Not bad for an hour or so's work.

The Commander
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Argonor on November 22, 2010, 11:38:26 AM
Wish I could do something like that in an hour.... I always get caught up in nit-picking about getting some small detail/issue right.... a real curse having that 'perfectionistic' strain. Most often it's really just a matter of getting some progress done, then worry about small imperfections later - some of them might even not show when primed.  :)

Is it a sheet of foam they are placed on, there? First, I thought is was some model tarmac, but then noticed the edge...

Now, I think I should get some zeds out and start cleaning moldlines. Actually, as I'm home from work with a bad case of tendosyvinites in my left foot, I think that is what I'm going to be doing for the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Commander Vyper on November 22, 2010, 11:45:02 AM
Well I did spend about three hours the previous night finding all the bits and blu-tacking them together for fit! :).

Will try to get paint on they soon, updates will be in the main zed thread.

Good luck with the mouldlines, good use of time if you're off your feet, decent film infront of you and you're good to go. Dead snow? ;)

The Commander
Title: Re: Mantic Games Zombies
Post by: Argonor on November 22, 2010, 12:14:52 PM
Dead snow? ;)

Would be nice if I had that one, heard interesting things about it  - Only real zed movies I own, though, are Resident Evil 2 and 3, and while OK for setting the mood, not something to be watched very often.... To be honest, I never really cared much for the many 'splatter' zed films - what I like about gaming 'zombiecalypse' style is the special feeling of hopelessness for the survivors, without the need for all the blood, guts and brains being spread all over the set (have no problem with making my minis gory to set the mood/style, I'm just not a big fan of 'splatter')

I'll settle for 'Dracula II - the resurrection' this afternoon. While it's probably awful, I never watched it before, and I need to concentrate on the moldlines, anyway  lol