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Title: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Plynkes on 03 August 2010, 02:19:48 PM
"When the Great War first broke out, and the Masai had news of it, the blood of the old fighting tribe was all up. They had visions of splendid battles and massacres, and they saw the glory of the past returning once more... They came round my camp with shining eyes, to ask me a hundred questions of the war and the Germans - was it true that they were coming from the air? In their minds they were running breathless, to meet danger and death."    Karen Blixen, Out of Africa.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/163_03_08_10_3_05_49_0.jpg)
Armed native scouts, 2nd Bn Loyal North Lancashire Regt (taken on battalion strength as 'attached personnel'). Tsavo, British East Africa, 1915.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/163_03_08_10_3_05_49_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/163_03_08_10_3_05_49_3.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/163_03_08_10_3_05_49_4.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/163_03_08_10_3_05_49_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/163_03_08_10_3_06_26.jpg)

The North Lancs had 40 or so such men on their books. Luckily for a lazy painter like me, three is all you need for a T&T scout unit.
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: aircav on 03 August 2010, 02:25:45 PM
They're brilliant  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Rev. Aubrey Upjohn on 03 August 2010, 02:28:45 PM
I was just musing about how boring the incoming afternoon was going to be and here comes Plynkes to save the day.
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Operator5 on 03 August 2010, 02:29:30 PM
Nice! I really love the painting and the casualty figure is perfect.

But I still want to see 40 of them done.  lol
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Dewbakuk on 03 August 2010, 02:32:36 PM
Very cool.
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Ray Rivers on 03 August 2010, 03:44:10 PM
OUCH!

That spear had to have hurt!   :o

Nice minis maestro.   ;D
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: former user on 03 August 2010, 06:01:33 PM
wow!

and I first thought this was something fictional...

where do You always dig out such ideas?
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Aaron on 03 August 2010, 06:42:07 PM
Wonderful painting. Did you convert these?
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Plynkes on 03 August 2010, 08:15:38 PM
former user, spending too much time hanging around on the Great War Forum, mostly. So many interesting photos and discussions there. Too many to read them all, sadly.


Aaron, yes they are conversions, but very easy ones. Foundry Masai (two of them with their arms bent into new positions) supplied with Empress Miniatures Kerries and Martini-Henrys (pretending to be Martini-Enfields, which they find very easy). Bandoleers made out of Green Stuff. The dead Askari lying on the cracker (every time I look at that bottom picture I want some Camembert to put on it!) is a Woodbine Designs Ottoman casualty who has been given a new hat, again fashioned from Green Stuff.
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Tellus on 03 August 2010, 08:42:00 PM
Cool stuff, this nice warm & rich tone you achieve with the colours always impress me :-*
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Helen on 03 August 2010, 09:26:26 PM
Nice work Dylan on the scouts.

Helen
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Post by: carlos marighela on 03 August 2010, 09:49:34 PM
Beautiful work.
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 03 August 2010, 10:20:02 PM
Looks great Plynkes.  I especially like the very first picture... Tells a story all by itself.
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Chairface on 04 August 2010, 08:28:14 AM
Absolutely lovely!
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Post by: dodge on 04 August 2010, 09:16:43 AM
A lovely group and a quoted back story to go with ,

I'm already there

great stuff

dodge
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 04 August 2010, 10:28:17 AM
Great stuff as usual, Plynkes :)
And I agree with Op5, all or nothing... ;)
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Axebreaker on 04 August 2010, 05:22:01 PM
Really,really lovely work! :-* :-*

Christopher
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Aaron on 04 August 2010, 11:30:05 PM
Well I'm very impressed with your conversion skill. I wouldn't have known the bandoliers were greenstuff if you hadn't confessed. I've been pushing around a bit of putty myself lately and I forgot how difficult it can be!
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: tim in saskatoon on 06 August 2010, 12:57:24 AM
Stunning stuff, Plynkes! Well done!

(about to show my ignorance here...)

Um... what is T&T...? I always thought it was Tunnels and Trolls... but that can't be right!? Can it?!
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Smokeyrone on 06 August 2010, 04:56:35 AM
Plynkes rocks the house again!  Great!
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Plynkes on 06 August 2010, 08:49:25 AM
Tim, it stands for Triumph and Tragedy, which is a skirmish rule system written by a couple of Lead Adventure Forum members.

 Triumph and Tragedy Website  (http://www.triumph-tragedy.de/index.html)

 Lead Adventure Triumph and Tragedy Discussion Board  (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=25.0)
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: yancey5 on 25 August 2010, 07:50:16 PM
I know I'm late chiming in on this one, but I thought I was up to speed on East Africa, didn't realilze the Masai were armed with rifles, thanks for opneing my eyes!!!
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: traveller on 25 August 2010, 08:04:08 PM
Wow!  :o :o :o

But I do feel sorry for that askari. Those spears are scary...
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Mindenbrush on 26 August 2010, 01:43:13 AM
Simple conversions = excellent work  :-*
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Plynkes on 26 August 2010, 09:14:28 AM
I know I'm late chiming in on this one, but I thought I was up to speed on East Africa, didn't realilze the Masai were armed with rifles, thanks for opneing my eyes!!!

I don't think Masai tribesmen were rifle-armed generally. Karen Blixen writes of being asked by Masai to shoot a troublesome lion for them (which also rather diminishes their fearsome reputation as lion hunters a little).

I suspect the rifles were issued to the scouts by the army when they were raised and trained (they received about a month's training in October/November 1915 and were posted on the battalion strength, so it seems to have been a formal arrangement rather than something more casual).
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: former user on 26 August 2010, 11:49:50 AM
may be wrong, but I read Masai were the most reluctant (of african peoples) to adopt firearms.
it is also remarkable that only the elder would use bows

so I second @Plynkes about the rifles
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Silent Invader on 26 August 2010, 12:04:04 PM
Lovely work Plynkes.  I really enjoy your posts.   8)
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: Plynkes on 26 August 2010, 01:31:18 PM
may be wrong, but I read Masai were the most reluctant (of african peoples) to adopt firearms.

Indeed. They were prejudiced against ranged weapons for one thing, believing them to be unworthy of a true moran. They were forbidden to use bows for instance. True warriors get in close and fight face to face, they do not kill from a safe distance. I don't think they were all that impressed by firearms anyway, at least to begin with. They had easily come up with tactics to defeat enemies armed with muzzle-loading muskets, so their contempt of guns was reinforced by this (naturally, modern firearms came as something of a nasty shock when they encountered them). Attitudes had perhaps shifted a little by the time of the Great War, with awareness of the capabilities of modern weapons.


Even had they wanted them, I'm not sure what the legal situation was with regards to selling guns to "wild" natives like the Masai, who weren't really assimilated into the life of the colony (and the settlers and authorities in B.E.A. were notoriously paranoid about armed natives, even to the extent of disbanding three battalions of the KAR partly over concerns they might mutiny).


In 1914 those of the KAR who didn't already have them were issued with magazine rifles, so there would have been no shortage of surplus Martini-Metfords and Martini-Enfields for the scouts to have (which, though I'm not 100%, appears to be what the fellows in the picture have got).
Title: Re: Loyal North Lancashire Masai
Post by: abhorsen950 on 27 August 2010, 10:22:50 PM
Very nice work.