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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Predatorpt on 09 August 2010, 01:45:31 PM
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I'm looking for minis that are compatible in style and size with the old metal Cadians. I saw some images of the Shockforce corporate troopers (made by the same sculptor?) but they are hard to find, so I need other alternatives.
I'm planning on using them as a PDF (Planetary Defense Force).
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I don't have any to compare (either cadians or these Heresy figures) but maybe Heresy's SciFi troopers?
http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/hsftrp001_trooperspack1_1.jpg
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Those look great, but with only 4 sculpts...not enough variety right now.
What about the 1st Corps Colonial Troopers. As anyone used them? I read that they are closer to 25mm than 28mm. Would they fit with the old Cadians? (they don't seem to be as "28mm heroic" as the plastic ones).
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They're still quite chunky. I was thinking that maybe the em4 plastic troopers could work for you. Although the height of the models fits, the GW stuff is somewhat...
massive in comparison.
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The Pig Iron guys in greatcoats should fit in well size wise.They are kinda chunky and the weapons are large.I don't have any metal cadians anymore to directly compare them mind you.Though they aren't in the same "style" of uniform.
Copplestone future wars troopers would be as tall ,but not as chunky, and the weapons are more to scale.
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@Hauptgefreiter - I've got a couple of em4 troopers and they are too small, for my tastes. Bought them some years ago to use with...Heroscape, lol.
@fitterpete - Can't use the greatcoats for this , I already use them as Neo-Soviets in my universe. But some of the other figures may be of some use to me, although I would like them to be less armored than the Cadians.
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Speaking of neo soviets, the Copplestone ones are easily as large and bulky as the Cadians.No armor and cool looking guns, kind of have a Valhallan look to them.
And the EM4 troopers were sculpted by Copplestone.I had a bunch way back when but sold them for the same reason,too small for GW figs.In my opinion the Copplestone Future Wars guys are noticably larger than the old EM4.
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Speaking of neo soviets, the copplestone ones are easily as large and bulky as the Cadians.No armour and cool looking guns, kind of have a Valhallan look to them.
Yes, they are great, but I opted for using the greatcoats for that role. But those Assault Troopers from Copplestone are also an item for me to consider :-*
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They are pre-paints, but how about At-43 U.N.A Steel Troopers?
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If your using the older Cadians, dont forget the Warrior Woman from the Last Chancers set, or the old Tank Crew mini's if you can find them.
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@killshot - I sold mine some time ago, they are too big (or to be honest, too well proportioned) to fit with the Cadians.
@TheMightyFlip - just lost a bid on Ebay for those GW tank riders. I'll have to check that Warrior Woman.
And my question stands - does anyone have 1st Corps Colonial Troopers? Are they closer in size to the old Cadians?
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(http://usera.ImageCave.com/sakkara/guard2a.JPG)
Warrior Woman and female Commisar.
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Thanks! That Female commisar is a bit smaller, lol. I've bought some Rogue Trader Commisars and commanders
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These should be suitable.
(http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/0001Trooper.gif)
eM-4 Troopers. Metal models.
I still have some from the early 90s, and they scale pretty well.
Make very good "USCM" marines, too.
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do a couple of comparison photos against the stuff we've done and I'll have a look thru my bits to see if there's anything suitable.
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@chromedog - I'll check them out. Aren't they the same as the Copplestone Troopers?
@dwartist - Thanks. I'll try to do that this Wednesday.
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They are simialr to the copplestone troopers, however they carry not-pulse rifles and are slotta based
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em-4 are the old copplestone ones
I do use them together with the new ones and old cadians, but they do not really go together size-wise
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em-4 are the old copplestone ones
I do use them together with the new ones and old cadians, but they do not really go together size-wise
They don't? I guess the EM4/Copplestone guys are smaller?
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Personally, I own all three and I think they go well together. One thing I will say though, is that it depends on what your definition of 'old GW figure' is, because my Valhallans are about a head taller than my EM-4 while my other impy-gees seem to sit well next to them.
Copplestone's newer ones are only taller because they sport integrated bases while the older ones do not. I always hide integral bases to make it look like the figures are standing on subtle slopes and uneven terrain to that their height difference is less noticeable alongside other figures.
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They don't? I guess the EM4/Copplestone guys are smaller?
yep em4 = old copplestone and new copplestone are quite similar, although definitely more realistically proportioned than the old cadians, which are quite bulky.
However, the general appearance is quite similar, so I use them in the same army, but not in the same unit.
I like the old cadians myself, but could not come up with anything that really resembles them.
The starship trooper colonial marines are also a close match, and I tried a bit conversion on the plastic cadians, notably the helmet, which then got quite close in the general style.
only chance is to see the body armour as "old style" and accept the rest as "new style".
what You could also do is head swap the whole range with the old catachans - the general appearance is thinned down, but You instantly quadruple Your range
true catachans
true cadians
cadians with cat. heads
catachans with cad. heads
boots, pants, gear, weapons are the same
only difference is body armour/jacket and helmet, but mixed
what You get is a "vietnam style" IG veteran army
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On top of using the older Cadian and Catachan models, you could insert some Talarn Desert raiders, as they wear the same armor as the Cadians, just with desert gear. Also the Tanith models are rather tasty next to some Catachans, and last but not least, the Last Chancers set.
Though expect to pay a lot of money, lol.
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I've seen a lot of collections cheaply on "bring and buy's"
I'd agree with most of the last chancers, but not with Tallarn and Tanith
completely different uniform
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Thanks for all the replies, this is why LAF is really great. I'm going to buy some of the Copplestone figs and try that mix and match with different heads. My idea is having some "low-tech" soldiers for a Planetary Defence Force.