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Title: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens now cast up 22/09/10
Post by: Malamute on August 13, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
Here are the latest sculpts from the very talented Matthew Bickley. More Mexicans for the army of 1836.

Mexican Infantry regiments were organised usually as eight companies; six fusileers, one grenadier (Grenado) and one light infantry company (The Cazadores).

The Cazadores were drawn from the best shots in the regiment and better equipped. Evidence suggests that these men were sometimes armed with surplus British black leather rifles equipment and the Baker Rifle.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_21_41_0.jpg)

Cazadore Captain and bugler

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_21_41_2.jpg)

Cazadore Sargento Mendoza

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_21_41_3.jpg)

Crack shot Soldado Gonzales

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_21_41_4.jpg)


Artillerymen

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_23_11_0.jpg)

"Grumpy" Gomez

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_23_12_1.jpg)


Command pack

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_23_12_2.jpg)

Colonel Morales

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_23_12_3.jpg)

Capitan Ortega

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/86_13_08_10_8_23_12_4.jpg)

They will be sent off to the mouldmakers on monday and should be available by the end of the month
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: traveller on August 13, 2010, 07:48:22 PM
Wow!  :o :o :o

I want them!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Bugsda on August 13, 2010, 07:51:01 PM
Blimey! Is it Sunday already  ;)

Outstanding Padrone, great faces, can't wait  :-*
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: abhorsen950 on August 13, 2010, 07:53:16 PM
Very nice sculpts, I agree with the early post great face's.

Thanks for sharing
Steve
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: the commissar on August 13, 2010, 07:54:05 PM
The characterization that the sculptor acheives is incredible.

I don't think I will be able to resist much longer!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Phil Robinson on August 13, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Great stuff Nick, more stunning work from Mr. Bickley Jnr.

Resistance is becoming futile.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Doc Twilight on August 13, 2010, 08:44:42 PM
Lovely stuff, Nick. Love the personality with this batch.

-Doc
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Calimero on August 13, 2010, 08:50:34 PM

WoW indeed!  :-*
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Ray Rivers on August 13, 2010, 09:03:13 PM
All these blokes seem so unhappy...  :'(

 ;)

Some absolutely astonishing mini's.

Berry, berry, nice.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Svennn on August 13, 2010, 09:08:26 PM
Superb sculpts. Lots and lots to look forward to here - and I still have no interest in the period.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: DFlynSqrl on August 13, 2010, 10:11:03 PM
They look fantastic.  I'm really fond of the Captain and the bugler!  These sculpts really have character.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Thunderchicken on August 13, 2010, 10:12:53 PM
Cracking stuff and as has already been said the characterisations are great!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Helen on August 13, 2010, 10:39:08 PM
Hi Nick,

Great work from Matthew on the Mexicans. They look really great, well done.

Cheers,

Helen
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Mancha on August 13, 2010, 11:59:13 PM
Jesus (pronounced in the Spanish manner), Matthew's got style!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: MrHarold on August 14, 2010, 12:15:09 AM
I have no interest in this period... but I still want those figures!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: vampire23 on August 14, 2010, 01:03:42 AM
 :)When will they be ready?
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Calimero on August 14, 2010, 01:23:28 AM
They will be sent off to the mouldmakers on monday and should be available by the end of the month

 ;)
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Conquistador on August 14, 2010, 03:22:52 AM
After (just slightly) my main  temporal interest in that theater but I agree with the quality comments on the sculpts.  Wonderful...  Very tempting...

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: duhamel on August 14, 2010, 09:31:03 AM
always beautiful :-*. I particularly like the voltigeurs. the choice of weapons is good.
could you tell the sculptor to stop playing in my head  lol lol I will not have done otherwise, if I could sculpt as well.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens
Post by: Silent Invader on August 14, 2010, 09:32:45 AM
Such characterful faces!   :-*
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Colonel Tubby on August 14, 2010, 04:45:01 PM
I have to agree, love the faces - the bugler is a peach!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Paul Hicks on August 14, 2010, 04:48:16 PM
Lovely stuff
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: oxiana on August 14, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
Terrific sculpts, just splendid!

Grumpy Gomez doesn't look like he's having a very good day, does he?  lol

Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Calimero on August 14, 2010, 05:05:31 PM

Just two small question… Is there any difference of color on the Cazadores uniforms or is it basically the same color? And which type of artillery piece would you suggest using for the Alamo period?
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Plynkes on August 14, 2010, 06:00:05 PM
Cazadores would have a green shako pompom (instead of red or the national colours of red/white/green), and the cords on the shako would be green, rather than yellow (fusiliers) or red (grenadiers).

Osprey book says "Preference" companies (grenadier and light companies) had a sardineta vertical flash instead of the standard three-button cuff arrangement (and a double flash for the elite companies of grenadier or light battalions).

On the other hand, an illustration in 'Texian Illiad' shows a Cazador with the standard cuff arrangement (as do Nick's figures), so I'm not sure which is true.  ???
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Plynkes on August 14, 2010, 06:10:12 PM
Interestingly, this picture of cazadores of various sorts shows them with both the sardineta and the buttons, rather than instead of as in the Osprey book:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Gary_Zaboly_Mexican_Army_Cazadores_at_the_Alamo_1836_lf.jpg)

L to R:
Cazador in white marching fatigues
Cazador, rifle company, Cazador Battalion
Rifle-armed Cazador from the Toluca Battalion
Cazador of the Aldama Battalion.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Calimero on August 14, 2010, 07:06:27 PM

Thanks Plynkes 8)
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Ray Earle on August 14, 2010, 11:26:01 PM
Stunning.  :D
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Hitman on August 15, 2010, 02:11:43 AM
Absolutely stunning!! How would these figures scale up to Front Rank Napoleonics? I could see them being used as Spanish deserters in the Peninsular Campaign, or am I off base??? Please let me know as I could see myself getting them as well.
Regards,
Hitman
 8)
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: fitterpete on August 15, 2010, 02:23:59 AM
I was wondering the same thing Hitman.
Also are the mounted figures riders cast on the horse or can you switch them off the horses they come with?
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Calimero on August 15, 2010, 03:06:53 AM

The horses and riders are separate pieces
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Malamute on August 15, 2010, 08:37:02 AM
Just two small question… Is there any difference of color on the Cazadores uniforms or is it basically the same color? And which type of artillery piece would you suggest using for the Alamo period?

Senor Plynkes has covered the Cazadore uniform well with the Zaboly colour plate. Some sources say the Osprey book is not accurate(no surprises there) lol. With the Mexican army anything goes, the uniforms vary from 1820's pattern tunics to the two styles worn during the 1830's. There is the double breasted style or single breasted coatee (which I have gone with).The only real important point is the green pompom and cords on the helmet to denote Cazadores.

Its probable that many of the Cazadores were equipped with the standard Brown Bess musket, not everybody was issued a Baker Rifle, so you can supplement them with basic infantry figures painted with appropriate green pompom.

Artillery pieces should be French Napoleonic Gribeauval style. The carriage would be just oiled wood, not painted and the limbers pulled by oxen. The pieces were mostly 6 or 8pdrs with several 12pdrs.

I am using Front Rank guns for mine as they fit well alongside the figures, but you could just as well use OG or Foundry guns.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Driscoles on August 15, 2010, 10:30:01 AM
Excellent models Malamute.
Grumpy looks like McClure ( which is great )  from the Blueberry comics.
(http://dekluizenaar.mimesis.nl/wp-images/blueberry1969.jpg)
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: the commissar on August 15, 2010, 11:01:40 AM
I am using Front Rank guns for mine as they fit well alongside the figures, but you could just as well use OG or Foundry guns.

How do the figures look with Front Rank (or other ranges for that matter) does anone have some comparison pics?

I am using figures from Front Rank and Perry's (with a few of the later Foundry) for my Napoleonics and as others have suggested I was thinking of dual use for these as a Spanish unit.

(The other use being in an 1830's (fictional) setting with the French, British, Americans and Spanish all furtively poking around in Mexico - all a bit vague at the moment)
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Malamute on August 15, 2010, 11:50:49 AM
How do the figures look with Front Rank (or other ranges for that matter) does anone have some comparison pics?

I am using figures from Front Rank and Perry's (with a few of the later Foundry) for my Napoleonics and as others have suggested I was thinking of dual use for these as a Spanish unit.

(The other use being in an 1830's (fictional) setting with the French, British, Americans and Spanish all furtively poking around in Mexico - all a bit vague at the moment)

They will compare favourably alongside Perry, Artizan and Front Rank.

Check out the Pastry War o 1838, its alot closer to your fictional setting than you might imagine, with the French landing in Mexico.... :)
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: fitterpete on August 15, 2010, 12:44:42 PM
They will compare favourably alongside Perry, Artizan and Front Rank.



 Which one? Cause those three are nothing a like ??? lol
I'd order a pack to check it out but that's a lot of bother and time and money to come across the pond.Does anyone in the US carry theses figures? Anyone got a comparison pic?

Sorry to be a pain but I have two other( $100+) batches of figures that are set aside for the next flea market(where I probably won't get $50 for them) because of bad advice on how they scale with other figures.
Pete
sorry about the quote,can't undo it
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Calimero on August 15, 2010, 01:57:12 PM
Thanks for the info Nick 8)

@ fitterpete, you can always try to sell your unwanted figures in the Bazaar of Obscurities here on LAF... you might have a better price for them
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Svennn on August 15, 2010, 07:01:43 PM
Could only find this FR foot figure but hopefully shows that they are indeed a good match. I stood him on the same coin as the BH figures (a 2p piece).

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w198/svennnthedhnut/mb021-1.jpg)

Svennn
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: fitterpete on August 15, 2010, 08:12:22 PM
Yep I got one of those FR figures(SYW French light infantry I believe) looks like they will work fine.Thanks Svenn!
Pete
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Malamute on August 16, 2010, 08:30:32 AM
Here is a comparison shot against Artizan.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/1/86_09_11_08_11_12_16_1.jpg)

I think you will find they will sit alongside Perry figures too.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: axabrax on August 16, 2010, 04:31:29 PM
Man o man those are good!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: gamer Mac on August 16, 2010, 05:04:18 PM
Not my sort of thing but those are really nice figures :-* :-*
Full of character.
The faces are great.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: the commissar on August 16, 2010, 05:46:57 PM
Thanks for the pics looks like they wil match OK
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on August 18, 2010, 08:05:55 AM

I think you will find they will sit alongside Perry figures too.

They do.
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Tellus on August 19, 2010, 06:57:24 PM
They're lovely :-*
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Lowtardog on August 22, 2010, 11:14:31 AM
Lovely as usual young Malamute me lad :-*
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Tacgnol on August 22, 2010, 05:58:31 PM
Gonzales is the real stand-out in the group for me. Even without paint on him he's a character!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Photographer on August 22, 2010, 07:30:49 PM
Brilliant!
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Galloping Major on August 23, 2010, 06:03:35 PM
I especially like those Cazadores  8)


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens 13/08/10
Post by: Malamute on September 22, 2010, 01:24:04 PM
The castings are now in stock and up on the website for sale. :)
Title: Re: New Boot Hill Mexican Greens now cast up 22/09/10
Post by: Buzgob on September 22, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
Excellent models as ever, Nick. They shall be ordered  :D