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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: rob_the_robgoblin on 21 September 2010, 10:56:53 AM
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Hey guys
I tried using the Brown bottled dettol and it has worked excellently.
The only (and quite a big) problem, is that black spray paint (and I think black paint) turns to sticky goop, which ruins the sink, the toothbrush (basically, I end up coating my minis in black goop, which is bloody hard to get off) and basically everything. It's a bugger to get off your hands too and a bugger to use when wearing rubber gloves.
I am using it straight out of the bottle, leaving it for a day or two, should I be watering it down?
Should I consider fairy power spray as an alternative or does it sound the same?
Oh and my house smells like something between the floors at my nursery as a kid and a hospital. Great.
However, it IS working and I HAVE saved some rare-ass miniatures which I am rather happy about. :)
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Ha, my girlfriend is an intern at a veterinary, I think this may change her opinion of the bloody stuff a bit! Until now she has a deep seethed hatred for the smell than lingers on.
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A few tips:
Always water it down to about 50% strength, add a little bit of salt too. I've found that dettol is good to start the paint rising stage but Methelated spirits in the weapon of choice currently once lifting.
I thought dettol it was great to begin with, but similar story to your experiences meant that I've recently moved to meths for plastics and metals with no problems, (space fleet stuff caked in bad paint). Methelated spirits tore straight through it, no problems at all. Also meths doesn't make your hands stink for a good few days afterwards either.
Still trying to find that illusive product that matches or even beats nitromores re: metal mini stripping, without the noxious lung rotting damage.
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Where would one get methylated spirits, what brands are good and how much?
I was told to try fairy power spray as well, it looks good, but I'm not sure how to use it! It's stodgy thick stuff that supposedly works after 10-30 minutes.
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Palm-oil that is the key ingredient isnt it? So anything with that in will strip acrylics. ???
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I've no idea.
So far, I've just been thinking it was voodoo that did it. ;D
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meths you can get from any iron mongers, tool or bits shop. You know, the shops that sell hoover bags, screwws, mops, that kind of thing. Its the pruple stuff.
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Hi Rob,
I think you are being too impatient, (brown) Dettol works fine if left for a week or so. It is quite good at lifting paint after a day or so, but leave it for a week and it will 'peel off' with little or no problem.
As for the smell; My grown-up daughter hates the stuff and I have to say that I'm not that fond of it! I place the miniatures in a plastic 'tupperware' style bowl with lid (bought in packs of five from Poundland) and leave them soak for at least a week - some have been in the Dettol for a month!
When I clean them, I do this outside, in the garden and in a bucket with loads of warm water, Fairy washing up liquid and an old toothbrush.
The results so far (all of them) have been good.
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
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Tony, that sounds great. A week you say? I'll try that.
The bigest problem is the black goop. It coats the toothbrushes and makes them completely unusable. Has this ever happened when you have used it? Or does the washing up liquid fight this off?
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I think you are being too impatient, (brown) Dettol works fine if left for a week or so. It is quite good at lifting paint after a day or so, but leave it for a week and it will 'peel off' with little or no problem.
yeah, i can second that.
Its the same with the detergent-based solutions: if you leave the model/figure sealed in for a wekk you can often just peel off the paint leaving it totally cleaned - literally nothing on it.
I've got some picciesof this with a detergent i've been testing, blowed if i can find the piccies now though :-[ but after a day or 2 it allowed you to scrub them clean, after a week they just needed washing under the tap and, quite literally, everything came off.
Except GW Chaos black... for some reason GW Chaos Black was impervious. Why? no idea.... :?
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I did exactly as Tony to get rid of old enamel paint on metal and had no problems with the goop. I'd guess that leaving them to soak for that little bit longer helps - also try picking / peeling with a cocktail stick rather than vigorous brushing.
One other thing, the minis WILL still smell of dettol even after washing. What I did was put them in a sandwich bag (the self seal ones) with a couple of handfuls of flour and left them for a month or so.... washed the flour off and no smell.
Patience is your friend! :D
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Weird.
Yeah GW Chaos Black, it's not impervious, it's just goop!
I like the flour idea. I'll try that. :)
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I bet I'm going to make even more mess!
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Don't you guys have Simple Green over there? I use it for everything. A few days in a can of simple green (smell is very tolerable in the house). I soak for a couple of days and brush with a stiff toothbrush (same one I've been using for years).
BTW models stripping:
(http://a11news.com/images/original-supermodels-vanity-fair.jpg)
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Don't you guys have Simple Green over there? I use it for everything. A few days in a can of simple green (smell is very tolerable in the house). I soak for a couple of days and brush with a stiff toothbrush (same one I've been using for years).
Simple Green = £15
Dettol = .47p ;)
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Simple Green = £15
Dettol = .47p ;)
Ahhh. Fair enough.
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I'm thinking Dettol is the same thing as Lysol here in the states....
I've had the same issues with the black paint, glad to see there are some tips here!
Thanks!
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We have both Dettol & Lysol up here in Canada. Dettol is a cleaner and antiseptic with first aid applications, Lysol is a very concentrated cleaner & disinfectant.
Both products contain oils that are insoluble in water, producing the classic milky look. Both are potentially hazardous if you over-expose yourself to the undiluted product but Lysol is a good deal stronger and so needs to be treated accordingly. Some of the antiseptics in Lysol products are pretty much highly toxic to anything other than mammals. Watch out for your pets if you play with this stuff.
BUT will they both strip the paint equally well is the question?
Detol contains pine oil, isopropanol, castor oil soap and a little bit of chloroxylenol. I would be tempted to risk Pine-sol 'cause I'm betting the pine oil is the kicker.
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Okay, Fairy Power Spray is bloody amazing.
Try it, it's a god send! :)
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Ok, some reasearch tells me that what is Fairy in the UK is Dreft in the Netherlands, now to find the corresponding product.
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I found the fairey power spray rather nasty stuff, about as toxic a vapour as you can get! So only really usable outdoors? As for Dettol and all its clones, it does work, 100% but you do need to give it time... Ive had a space marine in some ( Daimen Hirst Stylee ) for about three years.... But you must have a large quantity of very very cheap toothbrushes ready... and wooden tooth picks are also very handy for getting gloop out of eye sockets.... but at 99p for about 2,000 of them, they really are a throw away item...
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Simple Green = £15
Dettol = .47p ;)
You cant put a price on saving old figures.
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Okay, Fairy Power Spray is bloody amazing.
Try it, it's a god send! :)
What is that? Is it like fairy liquid?