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Miniatures Adventure => Interwar => Topic started by: area23 on 23 October 2010, 04:52:28 PM
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On this picture of a Freikorps (Izorsky?) armoured car theres the sign 'Achtung! etc.
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/2674384.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834D345EF383D0D7568FD28EA785B4CEAC76E23FEF406871B787
Can anyone make out what is actually written? My google-fu has failed me to find a clear image. Anfd my german language is not that good...
'Black Lion' makes decals wtih the sign and other markings but not for 1:56 (wouldn't fit the Copplestone one I guess).
I suppose no-one on these boards knows of a downloadable jpg image of the placard?
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On this picture of a Freikorps (Izorsky?) armoured car theres the sign 'Achtung! etc.
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/2674384.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834D345EF383D0D7568FD28EA785B4CEAC76E23FEF406871B787
The link shows no picture. Can you post it here? I´d happily try to translate.
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Found it.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Restricted%20Access/2674384.jpg)
The sign reads:
"Attention!" (or: "Warning!")
"Do not leave your houses!"
"Deadly peril in the open due to use of live ammunition!"
It's not a literal translation, but relatively close to the "barking" German Officialspeak, and faithful in its meaning.
It's a very interesting pic, by the way, which I've never seen before.
EDIT: Modify my first suggestion - it's not Bahnhof Zoo, more likely Alexanderplatz. Anyway, it would make a marvellous, if impractical centrepiece for a game.
I agree that the car in the foreground is probably an Izhorsky armoured body (though maybe not on a Fiat chassis), whereas the one in the rear seems to be a first series Austin.
If you want, I can whip up a jpg or png in your chosen size (i.e. width and height of the placard for your scale). I think I have a font installed that should be quite close.
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If you want, I can whip up a jpg or png in your chosen size (i.e. width and height of the placard for your scale). I think I have a font installed that should be quite close.
.......... and that's what makes this site so great! :D
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Done a mock-up (can do sets of those in any scale, this one will print ca. 6x4cm):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Freikorps/freikorpsplakat_480.jpg)
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Done a mock-up (can do sets of those in any scale, this one will print ca. 6x4cm):
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Freikorps/freikorpsplakat_480.jpg)
There needs to be a comma between "Lebensgefahr" and "da" to be grammatically correct...
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Brilliant!!!!
thanks a lot.
I'll wait for when my Izorsky arrives (next week I hope) to see how wide the sign should be.
I'll probably incline the width of the image so the letters will be high and thinner. All in all pretty good match with the font in the picture. 8) 8)
By the way I've found a lot of new german revolution and freikorps pics on google the last few weeks that weren't there last year. I'm saving them all. Lots of obscure armored cars from Munich to Riga.
I should load them all up in photobucket or flickr one of these days.
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There needs to be a comma between "Lebensgefahr" and "da" to be grammatically correct...
I guess that in civil wars, they'll cut some slack for grammar. They are Freikorps, not the Grammar Police. ;)
Seriously, you are right. I cannot see a comma in the photograph, and there actually may not be one in there (the line break being considered enough for the message to come across properly?). I wouldn't even know if that comma use would be Duden canon by 1919 - I've seen some official documents from that time with deuced peculiar interpunction and spelling, from our modern point of view.
Brilliant!!!!
thanks a lot.
Always glad to be of assistance.
I'll wait for when my Izorsky arrives (next week I hope) to see how wide the sign should be.
I'll probably incline the width of the image so the letters will be high and thinner. All in all pretty good match with the font in the picture. 8) 8)
I can modify the letters' spacing, width and height as desired. Are you getting the Copplestone one? Please post some pics and maybe some words of review, I'm very interested in it myself. More versatile and less of a gamebreaker than my tankie.
By the way I've found a lot of new german revolution and freikorps pics on google the last few weeks that weren't there last year. I'm saving them all. Lots of obscure armored cars from Munich to Riga.
I should load them all up in photobucket or flickr one of these days.
Please use Photobucket (and check for any copyrights, we wouldn't want you to get into trouble) - I always find Flickr totally horrible to use.
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I guess that in civil wars, they'll cut some slack for grammar. They are Freikorps, not the Grammar Police. ;)
haha. You said it before me. :)
But really, whether or not it would be correct writing, from a visual, graphical point of view, it makes sense to leave the comma out. It just looks better for a warning sign.
(In Germany there would never be a revolution, as the revolting masses would discuss grammar and punctuation of revolutionary pamphlets instead of getting to action!) ;)
I'll show some pics when I get the car.
I already have the Leichterkampfwagen which is a really sweet model. And i've read that there are indications that they actually may have been used on the eastern border...
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(In Germany there would never be a revolution, as the revolting masses would discuss grammar and punctuation of revolutionary pamphlets instead of getting to action!) ;)
That and the fact that it would take too long to get platform tickets when storming the railway stations.
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That and the fact that it would take too long to get platform tickets when storming the railway stations.
That still beats the British, who would queue to get their tickets and also allow the elderly and ladies to go ahead of them if necessary.
Nice work on the sign btw and an interesting photograph. I'm quite taken with the idea that they'd warn people that they may start shooting, I wonder if there's a sign on the Austin saying "Sorry about the noise, it will all be over in a minute". ;)
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Nice work on the sign btw and an interesting photograph. I'm quite taken with the idea that they'd warn people that they may start shooting, I wonder if there's a sign on the Austin saying "Sorry about the noise, it will all be over in a minute". ;)
See, that would be the polite British way of doing it (and possibly a nice idea for some VBCW models). In Germany, they won't apologize, but they pretty much assume you don't mind or take your benevolent understanding for granted (just like with motorway roadworks nowadays).
As a cynical German, I'd rather suspect a sign that reads "any civilian casualties must file a report in triplicate to the local authorities in person within 72 hours of their passing. Exceptions only made for 90-year-olds accompanied by their parents"... lol
BTW, if there's interest, we could collect some pictures of such placards and I could do a sheet of various ones rather than just the one above. Could be useful to a number of people, I hope.
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I was rather hoping it said
Warning! Contains nuts.
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Hi
If there is any interest in the Black Lion Decals, they will re-size them on request. I've had the both the Freikorps and early WW1 Allied armoured car decals re-sized. It fairly straightforward just drop them a E mail (contact details on their we site) asking fr a quote, both times they got back to me very quickly and I didn't have to wait long for the decals.
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BTW, if there's interest, we could collect some pictures of such placards and I could do a sheet of various ones rather than just the one above. Could be useful to a number of people, I hope.
Oh, that's a nice idea! placards, propaganda posters, pickets (Alle Macht an die A.S.Raten, Bruder Nicht Schiessen...), copies of the major newspapers whose buildings were occupied!
If there is any interest in the Black Lion Decals, they will re-size them on request.
Nice to know! Even though I'm already departed now for the collective D.I.Y. way. :D
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Just an update: This week my new Copplestone amoured cars arrived. here are some pictures that might be useful.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/area23shelter/izhorski-fiat1.jpg)
Izorski Fiat
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/area23shelter/izhorski-fiat3.jpg)
Izorski Fiat towing field gun (Renegade)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/area23shelter/izhorski-fiat2.jpg)
Izorski Fiat next to a Leichter Kampfwagen
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/area23shelter/izhorski-fiat4.jpg)
Izorski-Mbregov-LK-Austin(1:48 Sloppy Jalopy)
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(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/area23shelter/Armoured%20Cars/146210.jpg)
I also created a photobucked album with various armoured cars from Germany and Russia:
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/area23shelter/Armoured%20Cars/
And a German Revolution album:
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/area23shelter/German%20Revolution/
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Great, thank you very much! I have to admit that I opted against the Izhorsky-Fiat (for the time being) when I bought one of Force of Arms' very nicely done Lancias last weekend in Leeds - it's primed and slightly converted already (only put in two MGs, which is enough, and closed the other ports with plastic sheet, plus a single headlight).
But those pics are very, very tempting. Just as well I already have an Mgebrov, so I'm not that much at risk for this model, but the Izhorsky certainly remains high on my list of "want-to-buys".
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Work in progress...
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/area23shelter/IMG_1086.jpg)
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Lots of Freikorps goodness (if goodness is the word I want) abounding at the mo. From a historical perspective I find the German Revolution a fascinating period and I've always found its under-representation in interwar gaming a tad strange. I know some see the Freikorps as proto-Nazis and thus a little controversial as a gaming subject, but this isn't particularly accurate. Freikorps fought as mercenaries for the Bolsheviks against the Poles during Polish–Soviet War and Hitler had many ex-Freikorps leaders bumped off during the Night of the Long Knives for being too unruly. Great stuff, anyway!