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Miniatures Adventure => Weird Wars => Topic started by: Pappa Midnight on 24 August 2007, 12:31:05 AM

Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 24 August 2007, 12:31:05 AM
Just finished a "alternative" WW2 armored fighting suit. It's a "Bauhaus Vulcan Battle Suit" by the now defunct Target Games ( Warzone).

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/VulcanBattlesuit.jpg)

I've been trying to think up a suitable name.
My knowledge of German is....... well nothing really! :?
If Panzer Kampf Wagon is "armored fighting vehicle" would "Panzer Kampf Klage" be "Armored Fighting Suit"?
Also , how about "Eisenschildkrote" as a nickname ( Iron Turtle).

Regards
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Post by: Zafarelli on 24 August 2007, 06:44:20 AM
Ahh, the joys of automatic translation  :)

"Klage" translates into (law)suit, as opposed to the thing you wear. "Panzerkampfanzug" would the word you are looking for. And it abbreviates nicely into "PzKpfA Ausf B" or something.

I'm not too sure about "Eisenschildkröte", though, it doesn't really roll of the tongue. How about "Eisesnfrosch" (Iron Frog)?
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Post by: Westfalia Chris on 24 August 2007, 08:17:03 AM
Oh my god, that sand tone is amazing! Far more fitting than my take on the subject from last year:

(http://www.dminis.com/images/img.1166714654196.jpg)

:lol: ;) Makes me want to finish my squad of those!

On the name thing. I named mine PzKpfA (Panzerkampfanzug) II "Bär", since my lighter "powered armour" thingies were named PzKpfA I "Wolf".

"Eisenfrosch" is very cute. "Eisenschildkröte", like Zafarelli said, doesn´t really "roll", I´d guess because there are too many syllables. Maybe "Stahlschildkröte" (steel turtle).

I´d like to point out, though, that reptiles and amphibians where not really in favour for naming purposes, "warm-blooded predators" being a more popular choice. The above are very good, though, but I´d rather think of them as inofficial troops´ nicknames, not official "Suggestivnamen" like "Panther", "Tiger", etc. None of those would be good for the lumbering bulk of the Vulcan, though. Of course, you could just use a alphanumeric code, like PzKpfA II, and no official name, like it was the case with the Panzers I to IV.[/list]
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Agis on 24 August 2007, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: "Zafarelli"
Ahh, the joys of automatic translation  :)

"Klage" translates into (law)suit, as opposed to the thing you wear. "Panzerkampfanzug" would the word you are looking for. And it abbreviates nicely into "PzKpfA Ausf B" or something.

I'm not too sure about "Eisenschildkröte", though, it doesn't really roll of the tongue. How about "Eisesnfrosch" (Iron Frog)?

Can't add much more, only: It is Eisenfrosch...
 :wink:
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 24 August 2007, 12:42:10 PM
Thanks for the feedback, I told you my understanding of german was "0" points!!!

Auto-translators are handy but do throw out some bizarre stuff.
I quite like the " Armored Fighting Law-suit" , especially when the pilot falls over without wearing an approved helmet! :lol:

Interesting comment about names normally being "predators". I think you're bang on about it being too bulky to have a nice "fast" predator name. I will probably just stick with "PzKpfA II" etc.

I love Eisenfrosch ( Iron Frog) as a unofficial troops nickname for the suit.

Chris, seeing your BAR painted up in dark colours reminded me of a large beetle. I know there was a "Wespe" ( Wasp) what about " Stahlkafer" ( Steel beetle)? It's got a cool sound to it.

Thanks
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Post by: Westfalia Chris on 24 August 2007, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: "Pappa Midnight"
Thanks for the feedback, I told you my understanding of german was "0" points!!!

Auto-translators are handy but do throw out some bizarre stuff.
I quite like the " Armored Fighting Law-suit" , especially when the pilot falls over without wearing an approved helmet! :lol:


If ve get a gut laugh out of it, you are excused, Herr Mitternacht, jawoll! That´s what Pulpendeutsch is all about! ;) :lol: And Armored Fighting Law-Suit is certainly the best one I´ve heard this year!

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Interesting comment about names normally being "predators". I think you're bang on about it being too bulky to have a nice "fast" predator name. I will probably just stick with "PzKpfA II" etc.


Exactly what I thought. I went for "Bär/Bear" because of the hulking appearance and huge fist ("Bärenpranke/Bear´s Paw" being an eponymous term in German), but maybe Gorilla, or something? Considering they called the Sturmpanzer IV "Brummbär" (grumpy bear, or something like that), not too far off. Must be a "totemic thing".

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I love Eisenfrosch ( Iron Frog) as a unofficial troops nickname for the suit.


It really sounds cuddly. I cannot stop thinking of that plush toy one of those obnoxious South Park characters has. "Little Frog" or something.

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Chris, seeing your BAR painted up in dark colours reminded me of a large beetle. I know there was a "Wespe" ( Wasp) what about " Stahlkafer" ( Steel beetle)? It's got a cool sound to it.


Unless they´ve got some "martial prowess" like the wasp, I´m afraid in the contemporary nomenclature, insects were only used in a derogatory connotation (exceptions like "Hummel" for the SP 150mm howitzer notwithstanding)... you know, pests which have to be extermined.
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Post by: Zafarelli on 24 August 2007, 05:24:47 PM
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Can't add much more, only: It is Eisenfrosch...
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Man, it was early, and I only had had my first coffee  :roll:
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Grimm on 24 August 2007, 06:20:40 PM
The Name must be ``Schäferhund"  !!!!!!!
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 24 August 2007, 07:07:48 PM
Thanks Chris,
a lot of useful information there!
I think I'll stick to "PzKpfA II Ausf C" and leave out the "Official Name".

Grimm....How did I know you were going to say that! :mrgreen:

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Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Tri3 on 24 August 2007, 07:46:28 PM
Man,

That is the best paint job of the Vulkan I have seen.   Way to go.
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 24 August 2007, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: "Tri3"
Man,

That is the best paint job of the Vulkan I have seen.   Way to go.


Thanks Tri3!
Glad you like it! :)

Regards
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Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Malamute on 25 August 2007, 09:12:15 AM
Top stuff Albert, great painting :love:
Norman.
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on 25 August 2007, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: "Malamute"
Top stuff Albert, great painting :love:
Norman.


Thanks Reggie! :mrgreen:

Regards
Bertrum
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 26 August 2007, 12:47:59 AM
Just completed another Battlesuit. I've managed to locate some more so I will be painting up an entire squad!
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/PzKpfaIIAusfC2.jpg)

Regards
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Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: white knight on 26 August 2007, 12:50:34 PM
I really like them. Your paintjob of these has inspired me to get a few for myself. Very fitting. What paints did you use if you don't mind my asking? :)
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on 26 August 2007, 01:29:35 PM
Thanks White Knight.
I used Tamiya Dark Yellow (XF60) for the basic colour, the other colours being mostly cheap artist acrylics.
I now that's not much help but I only tend to use "Branded" paints for specific military colours ( Vallejo/Tamiya) and cheap artist acrylics for most other stuff!

Cheers
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Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: white knight on 26 August 2007, 02:02:36 PM
Cheers!
I use cheap acrylics for some colours too (especially black and white).
Never used Tamiya paints though; might give them a try. :)
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: supervike on 28 August 2007, 03:19:31 AM
No single online person makes me want to spend my money as much as Papa Midnight....


What have you against my wallet??

I've got to get some of these....

Fantastic, imaginative, and just plain cool.
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 28 August 2007, 03:34:42 PM
Thanks SV!  :mrgreen:

I'm glad you like them!

Regards
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Post by: majorsmith on 30 August 2007, 12:45:40 PM
fantastic! love em!
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Post by: demi_morgana on 30 August 2007, 06:15:21 PM
damn, that's sweet! :love:
and speaking about the warzone... I've just gotten the idea: using converted battlesuit as dark legion's beasts... can't remember if there was any possessed vehicle in warzone game :?:
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 30 August 2007, 07:11:13 PM
Thanks for the comments!!! :)

Warzone had some pretty interesting minis for conversion. I'm currently trying to find an Imperial Hurricane mini for a British War Walker.

Regards
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Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: white knight on 02 September 2007, 02:16:39 PM
Doesn't Prince August (http://www.princeaugust.ie/) carry them? They seem to have taken over most of the old Warzone and Chronopia ranges. I placed an order with them for the Vulkans.

EDIT: They don't list them, but since they are adding more figures on a regular basis, you could e-mail them to find out if they have it?
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 02 September 2007, 11:29:52 PM
Thanks White Knight.
I got some more Vulkans from Prince August, I'll E-mail them shortly and faind out about the Hurricane.

Regards
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Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: panzerfaust200 on 12 September 2007, 10:55:35 AM
damn but these are cool...  :love:  where can i find some????

anyone willing to part with a couple? :wink:

rob.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on 12 September 2007, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: "panzerfaust200"
damn but these are cool...  :love:  where can i find some????

anyone willing to part with a couple? :wink:

rob.  :mrgreen:


Thanks Rob,
as they said above, Prince August in Ireland is the best supplier.
All the prices are in Euros so they are not as expensive as they first seem.
Postage costs are reasonable aswell. They have got a minimum order ammount of 20 Euro ( about £14.00).
Here's the link:
http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/index_bauhaus.html

Regards
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Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: panzerfaust200 on 14 September 2007, 02:25:33 AM
cheers PM... shame about that min order limit, guess i'll get yet more paint !  :roll:

rob.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: majorsmith on 25 September 2007, 03:47:36 PM
just bought some of these, they look so cool!
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 25 September 2007, 04:39:40 PM
Can't argue that they are cool minis to paint!
I've stopped at 6 ( I'm working on some Allied stuff at the moment to try to balance things up!!!)

Regards
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Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: panzerfaust200 on 25 September 2007, 05:23:48 PM
lets see some pics then!!!! :love:  :D  :mrgreen:

rob.  :mrgreen:
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 08 October 2007, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: "panzerfaust200"
lets see some pics then!!!! :love:  :D  :mrgreen:

rob.  :mrgreen:


Hi Rob,
Here's a quick Group Photo of my German Mechs so far!
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/BattleGroupa.jpg)

Regards
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Post by: Malamute on 09 October 2007, 08:43:54 AM
Blimey, a scarey looking bunch excellent stuff as always Tom. :)

Cheers,

Horace.
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on 09 October 2007, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: "Malamute"
Blimey, a scarey looking bunch excellent stuff as always Tom. :)

Cheers,

Horace.


Thanks Frank! :)
I was sorely tempted to paint up a Dalek in Panzer colours and slip it in!!!

Regards
Marmaduke
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Post by: panzerfaust200 on 12 October 2007, 10:09:14 PM
:o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

now that is AWSOME!!!!!

rob.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on 12 October 2007, 10:22:08 PM
H-holy brushes... !!!
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Post by: PeteMurray on 12 October 2007, 11:59:34 PM
Kampfgruppe Mitternacht
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Post by: dodge on 13 October 2007, 07:06:24 AM
Those are very scary. :o  and so good :love:

I'm starting to think that weird war is for me. thanks for the inspiration :)
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Post by: Lowtardog on 13 October 2007, 09:46:42 AM
Awesome :love:  :love:  :love:  :love:
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Post by: Overlord on 13 October 2007, 10:22:13 AM
Fantastic!  :o

I would love to see these in a game against Russian mechs.

I am being sorely tempted to start weird war II now....must....resist....
Title: WWII Armored Fighting Suit......Group Photo Added
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 22 October 2007, 04:19:54 PM
Thank you all for the comments!
I'm having a little break from painting at the moment but I have some Panzergrenadiers ( or mech Grenadiers...) and some British Paras in the pipeline!

Quote from: "Overlord"
Fantastic!  :o

I would love to see these in a game against Russian mechs.

I am being sorely tempted to start weird war II now....must....resist....


Thanks Overlord. I've basically gone for German and Brit Forces but the Russians are ever so tempting.......................Resistance is futile!!!!!!

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Post by: Tri3 on 29 October 2007, 05:43:41 PM
Fantastic Work.  I am currently trying to track down some Viktor Battle Suits.  These were a new and improved Vulkan.  The Viktors were a little larger model and didn't have the roll-cage.


Here is a picture of the Rocket Launcher guy next to some other biggies.
http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn75918td.jpg
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Post by: Chairface on 29 October 2007, 05:45:54 PM
They are absolutely beautiful!
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on 29 October 2007, 10:28:20 PM
Thanks Chairface!

Thanks Tri3. I haven't heard of the Viktor Battlesuits before. I think I've got enough German battlesuits suits but I'll keep my eyes open for the Viktors. If I find any I will give you a shout.

If anyone is interested I've just found these on Ebay. Even with postage they work out a real good deal!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Warzone-wargames-10526-Bauhaus-Vulkan-Battlesuits_W0QQitemZ110166118468QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2547QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Regards
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Post by: Goldwyrm on 30 October 2007, 02:40:49 PM
Wow ! Those look stunning. I've got to dig my unpainted battlesuits out now and try something like that.
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Post by: poulppy on 30 October 2007, 04:12:27 PM
Hey !

I surrender

Kamarad Kamarad !

What a stunt group...
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Post by: pnweerar on 30 October 2007, 07:02:20 PM
Lovely.
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Post by: Pappa Midnight on 31 October 2007, 08:26:04 PM
Thank you for the comments!
Glad you like them!

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Post by: Grimm on 31 October 2007, 09:50:18 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  :o  :o  :love:  :love:  :D  :D

To much for my brain  :D