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Title: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 30 October 2010, 05:21:45 PM
Just built up and undercoated a 1/50 plastic train from Arii.
I think its WAY too modern looking for VSF but I will paint it up and see.
I'm thinking about putting a cattle catcher ( Zombie Catcher..?) on the front and converting some Goldlok toy plastic carriages for it to pull. The carriages will be armoured with suitable weapon mounts to fend of undead hordes.
If it doesn't fit into my VSF stuff I'll probably use it for a small "Unhallowed Metropolis" project I'm planning.

28mm Mini to give an idea of scale:
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train2.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train3.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train4.jpg)

Regards
PM
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 30 October 2010, 06:00:12 PM
I like it. Needs a couple of smoke stacks.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 30 October 2010, 06:05:21 PM
I'd agree - it's a lovely model, but probably more steampunk than VSF. I think the main thing that pushes the envelope are the aerodynamic cowling at the front and around the smokestack, steam dome and other tidbits on top of the boiler.

It would work marvellously in a "Final Fantasy" type game, or the "Metropolis" slant you mentioned (both Lang's original and Osamu Tezuka's/Katsuhiro Otomo's homage).

More exposed steam pipes would be good for the steampunk angle, whereas decorative metal (brass) fittings might make it look more VSF-ish.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: elysium64 on 30 October 2010, 10:09:02 PM
Just built up and undercoated a 1/50 plastic train from Arii.
width=800 height=600]http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/p


Any links as to where I can purchase one?
Wonderful model, for VSF paint the Train either Gloss Blue, Red , Green with Black on Roof, Boiler front, Wheel arches/side plates!!! and lots of brass detailing, And maybe a bit of flamboyance (a crest, areas of marbelling)
Use actual steam train livery as a guide but with more brass and flamboyance.
For steam punk I would go with the main body work either or a combination of Rusty metal, Browns, aged Copper or Blacks highlighted with greens or blues, with all the detailing painted in brass, bronze, silver, gunmetal and a range of other metallic shades everyting suitably aged and dirty
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Chairface on 31 October 2010, 12:08:29 PM
I think that it is completely suitable for VSF, although a smoke stack would not be out of place
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Alfrik on 31 October 2010, 02:16:06 PM
Hmmmm coal fired rail engine generating steam power, fits both, visual is the determinator for theme. VSF more brick/a/brac detailing, Steampunk more pipes and guages as detailing, oh and levers  :D
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Mister Rab on 31 October 2010, 08:38:43 PM
Looks quite 'Batman' to me, which isn't necessarily a bad thing at all. What is the miniature, though? It looks great!
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: HPFlashman on 31 October 2010, 10:08:14 PM
Looks alot like one of the Foundry Victoriana stuff, had a quick browse but no dice. Similiarities in the Jack the Ripper collection, but none with a gun..

Seriously nice train, though...
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Geudens on 01 November 2010, 08:45:22 AM
It would work marvellously in a "Final Fantasy" type game, or the "Metropolis" slant you mentioned (both Lang's original and Osamu Tezuka's/Katsuhiro Otomo's homage).

More exposed steam pipes would be good for the steampunk angle, whereas decorative metal (brass) fittings might make it look more VSF-ish.

I agree with Chris.  I wouldn't add a smokestack for the simple reason it will kill the aerodinamic lines of the engine.  Simply put: I would not add anything beyond its current outline, but concentrate on extra pipes, fittings and lanterns.

Rudi
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Malamute on 01 November 2010, 09:01:08 AM
I agree with Chris.  I wouldn't add a smokestack for the simple reason it will kill the aerodinamic lines of the engine.  Simply put: I would not add anything beyond its current outline, but concentrate on extra pipes, fittings and lanterns.

Rudi

I second that!

Quality stuff as usual Daddy Daytime ;)
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 01 November 2010, 09:49:05 AM
See, I would add a smoke stack (possibly two) but I'd put them at a 45 degree angle pointing back along the train.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Lupus on 01 November 2010, 10:08:00 AM
Yeah maybe some external small boiler's wouldn't look out of place either.

I'd love to know where you got it from as well..Always struggled to find a train i like the look of.

Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: The_Beast on 01 November 2010, 12:47:41 PM
Okay, I'm still uncertain about the whole Steampunk vs. whatever issue, but have to admit it can be covered in about anything, hacked-and-cut, to run anytime, but my first reaction is Pulp.

PM said way too modern, and I think it has that feel rather strongly.

Is this the D51 Slag Type with side plating left off? Not a railroad affectiando, member of other brown anorak groups though I be. This image is closest I could find.
http://www.hwjapan.com/g_library2/ari/ari35605.jpg

Doug
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Thunderchicken on 01 November 2010, 02:47:55 PM
Rivets my man! Rivets!  :)
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: YPU on 01 November 2010, 03:24:21 PM
Cant say if its VSF or steampunk, I tend to fall on the steampunk end of it all anyway. (Might be my age?)
I do want to say it looks like it could fit in perfectly with your other stuff. I mean next to tiny Tim or the coffin this would look perfectly OK. However due to its elegant design I would suggest it belonging to some slick corporate organization?  Ie the flowing parts of it not being from a aerodynamic design point but from a stylistic one.


And indeed rivets, crests and lanters would help, but it would fit with your other stuff!

EDIT: all of that is also to say, I want to see what wonders you can work with this as a basis.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: The_Beast on 01 November 2010, 07:25:56 PM

EDIT: all of that is also to say, I want to see what wonders you can work with this as a basis.


True, he has had me choking on my carelessly spoken skeptic's words before...  lol

Doug
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 02 November 2010, 06:03:25 PM
Thank you all for the comments.
I've taken on board the feedback ( saves me thinking too much!!!) and I think I'll try to keep the lines and add detailing as mentioned ( Lanterns, pipes, Crests etc).
As I actually like the train "as-is" I built it with no alterations. I may have made some extra work for myself if I do anything TOO drastic. Originally I was going to light it, with a working main light and lanterns with the power source hidden under the coal. I will have to see if my electrical skills are up to it. For some reason I fancied a green light source for the carriages etc......

I bought the train from Japan and got HAMMERED by Customs, so it actually worked out pretty expensive!!!
http://www.hwjapan.com/sh/ARI35605.aspx
Saying that, the service was excellent!!!!
 
The mini in the picture is a converted Blackscorpion Cowboy with a new head, re-sculpted front and GW gun. He's part of my "Hunt Club"
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/TheHuntClub.jpg

Keep you updated with any progress.
Regards
PM

Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Hawkeye on 02 November 2010, 06:20:06 PM
I have to say, I think the world you're creating can incorporate quite a bit, in terms of looks and aesthetics, and I think the train fits right into what you've done so far. The steam-powered motorcycle, for example, wouldn't fit into any world other than the one you're creating. Ditto Tiny Tim. I think it will be exactly the same with the train, which, by the way, I love - what a great find! The flowing lines are absolutely wonderful, and I know that with a little bit of your wizardry, it's going to look right at home. As it happens, I also have some extra carriages for the Goldlok train you're talking about (sold in Toys 'R Us on this side of the pond as Fastline, I think), so let me know if it's the same, and if I can contribute by sending a few pieces your way.

It does make me wonder, though.....does this mean that your next building is going to a train station? A huge Victorian pile with mountains of gaming possibilities is what I'm imagining, and at its heart, this train, which I can't wait to see finished! As for the green lighting - I think it would look spectacular!

Full steam ahead, PM!
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: Mister Rab on 02 November 2010, 07:13:57 PM
The mini in the picture is a converted Blackscorpion Cowboy with a new head, re-sculpted front and GW gun.

I thought so! I have that cowboy miniature, but then thought "No-one would go to that much bother, surely?", but I had forgotten who I was talking about  ::)

Looking forward to seeing how the train turns out.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk.....?
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on 02 November 2010, 08:13:14 PM
He's part of my "Hunt Club"
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/TheHuntClub.jpg

 :o Simply superb.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: Pappa Midnight on 23 December 2010, 09:27:10 PM
Just finished base-coating my train ( still needs a name and some carriages).
I decided to do some "Very" minor changes to the original kit in the form of a "Zombie Cattle Catcher" and a couple of lanterns. I also added some plaques on the front aerofoils and a westwind mini as the driver.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train5.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train6.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train7.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train8.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train9.jpg)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c334/pappa_midnight/SP_train10.jpg)

Sorry the pictures are a bit crappy ( santa might bring me a new camera!!)

I'll either be using some goldlok carriages or I might invest in a couple of "peco" O scale ones.

egards
PM
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: Red Orc on 23 December 2010, 09:32:03 PM
That really is gorgeous.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on 23 December 2010, 09:39:53 PM
Once again - a truly fantastic VSF model.

Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: Mr.J on 23 December 2010, 10:07:41 PM
Wow! Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: YPU on 23 December 2010, 10:10:34 PM
Love it, I agree its basic shape works very well and tough somewhat advanced its not all that bad, especially next to your giant steam man!
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 23 December 2010, 11:53:10 PM
Loverly stuff  :-*  :-*

cheers

James
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: Thunderchicken on 24 December 2010, 10:08:11 AM
A superb looking train PM!  :-* :-*

Now you need to build a station in your usual splendid style to cover it.  ;)
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: chantyam on 24 December 2010, 12:49:10 PM
As for names perhaps "The General ****" (insert set name) or perhaps the Brad Davis (think about it) ;)
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: chantyam on 24 December 2010, 01:48:47 PM
yeah  :D
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: Skrapwelder on 27 December 2010, 04:12:46 PM
Excellent work and I'm looking forward to see what you do for cars and crew.
Title: Re: WIP: VSF Train......Possibly TOO Steampunk..? *update 23 DEC 2010*
Post by: kenohhkc on 30 December 2010, 04:29:46 PM
I may need to buy this. Its too beautiful in its lines and sensibility! Nice find and nicely done.