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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: gamer Mac on October 30, 2010, 11:17:37 PM
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I have wanted to try this idea for a while.
I am thinking of building a new army for VSF. The idea is based very roughly on Captain Nemo. A bit of a mix between the Disney version and the LOEG version.
I was going to do it all myself but my Brother expressed an interest in a similar army, so it is going to be a joint effort. With no real plan or dead line. We both have a load of ideas and you may have seen my brothers start to the theme.
One of the things I wanted to have were some divers, Disney Nemo style.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_50_17_0.JPG)
Built a dolly out of wire.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_50_17_1.JPG)
Helmet made out of a wooden bead and some bits and pieces.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_50_17_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_50_17_3.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_50_17_4.JPG)
Added some green stuff
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_51_41_0.JPG)
Start to bulk out the body
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_51_41_1.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_51_41_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_30_10_10_11_51_41_3.JPG)
Copplestone Russian sailor for scale.
Still got to bulk the arms and legs out a bit and try and add some more detail to the diving suit.
Not sure what to arm him with?
Any suggestions would be most welcome
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_31_10_10_12_12_48.JPG)
There is the gun in this picture but it looks a bit too complicated to make.
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Nice work so far - I especially like the helmet, that's smashing.
As the undersea henchmen of a crazed techno-pirate, pretty much by definition they have to have some kind of harpoon-gun, don't they? The spear-gun that Andym drew for the mini sub looks perfect - all you have to do is make a series of tiny ones the same (but with some kind of release and a grip, obviously) for hand-held versions, I figure.
Go on, you know it would look great.
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Not content with being a painter and uber scrathbuilder, the mans a sculptor too!! lol
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Not content with being a painter and uber scrathbuilder, the mans a sculptor too!! lol
Yes indeed, he is truly talented. ;D
I have also fancied doing Nemo's crew. I purchased some of the Scheltrum divers. They have a mixture of spear guns and lances. I think they are a must.
You might find this link useful. Scroll down to the bottom and there are various harpoon weapons.
http://20kleaguesunderthesea.blogspot.com/2009/11/blog-post.html
Are you going to get them cast?
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Nice,very nice indeed :)
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There's no stopping him :o ;D :D :-* :-* :-*
Love it :)
One small thing though, he does look a little bit tall, I know he's going to be bulked out but the helmet seems to sit a bit taller than the sailor next to him.
cheers
James
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Is there no end to your talents! That helmet looks great to me, looking forward to seeing the figure completed. :-* :-*
As Malamute said, will you get them casted?
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Not content with being a painter and uber scrathbuilder, the mans a sculptor too!! lol
I notice you put a laughing icon after that, quite right it is hardly sculpting. I am cheating by putting a big helmet over the hard bits lol
Malamute
Very nice link. Some great ideas but look a little too detailed for my meager skills.
As for getting them cast we will see how they turn out before I start thinking about that.
James
I agree he does look a little tall. I think he will look better when thickened out a bit. I also figure that with the big helmet he would be taller then a normal guy.
This is also a first attempt so we will see how it looks when finished.
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I do admire the way you take a few bits and bobs and turn them into soemthing feasible! 8)
He is taller but methinks that's okay as, what with the helmet, don't those diver's boots have really thick soles?
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Looks pretty fantastic for a first effort, still needs a little work, tidying him up but there is loads of potential there. Is there no end to your talents man? Well if this thread is half as good as your Zeppelin thread it'll be a corker. Can't wait to see more.
Haarken
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I notice you put a laughing icon after that, quite right it is hardly sculpting. I am cheating by putting a big helmet over the hard bits lol
I put that there as I remembered you saying something very similar ;)
The wood and plasticard negate any chance of press moulding it but apart from a couple of tricky undercuts I cannot see any reason why it could not be cast in a two part RTV
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What's RTV?
Any idea how much this sort of thing costs?
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What's RTV?
Any idea how much this sort of thing costs?
Room Temperature Vulcanising silicone rubber as can be used to make moulds. There are various types, though if casting metal then you need one that can take the high temperatures, namely RTV101. It's the red stuff in this image (from my New York Independents thread here (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=19249.45)).
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/imagebucket_2006/wargaming/newyorkprov_wip_14.jpg)
I asked about sources when I was searching out rubber for my project and talk about prices in this thread:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=19840.0
One thing to bear in mind is that while it's cheaper to buy in bulk, shelf life isn't for ever, I think up to about 6 months depending on environment.
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If you want them cast professionally then Griffin Moulds are probably your first port of call.
£50 for a master mould and then another £50 - £80 for your production mould if you chose to sell them. Depending on the size of the mould you can fit up to 16 figures. Plus the cost of the metal.
Let me know if you need any more info.
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Thanks Nick.
I may get backto you at a later date
Not done that much today
Choice of weapons to make
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_01_11_10_1_01_05_0.JPG)
Electro Trident
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_01_11_10_1_01_06_1.JPG)
Nemo gun
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_01_11_10_1_01_06_2.JPG)
What do you think? Use one type or both? Still thinking about the harpoon gun.
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I really like both ot them. To be picky I would have a spear tip sticking out of the rifle. Definitely use both types.
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I think I prefer the trident as the gun looks a little too pulpy-retro.
cheers
James
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I like the trident more than the Nemo gun. I like the idea of a harpoon, perhaps it can have some sort of electrical barb on it like the trident.
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After the zeppelin you will, of course, be making a full size Nautilus with removable deck sections. Right? :D
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Not me :D
Fill your boots
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Great progress, really like the look of both guns, though I think I prefer the trident gun.
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hmm, maybe a bit too modern, but can you remember the sonic weapons from Terror from the Deep?
http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Sonic_Cannon (http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Sonic_Cannon)
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Added a harpoon to the front of the gun
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_01_11_10_11_42_56_0.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_01_11_10_11_42_56_1.JPG)
Still more work to do tidying up the hands and arms
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_01_11_10_11_42_56_2.JPG)
Spare ammo for the harpoon gun
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_01_11_10_11_42_56_3.JPG)
Weight belt added as well.
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Ooooh yes, the gun looks much better now. The figure is coming along nicely, great work GM. :)
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Yep the harpoon gun looks the part now.
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The figure is looking really fantastic, and that Harpoon is looking so much better, that little point makes so much difference.
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Nice i'm liking the look of the whole thing.
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The trident looks great! The only thing I can think about for the gun may be to bulk it out. I know modern divers spearguns are skinny affairs but this might keep it more on line with the vsf stuff. Please excuse the picture I can't seem to turn it through 90degrees on this phone.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/81c97542.jpg)
That's the only options extra I could think of...
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Shotgun spearchucker... Great :D
cheers
James
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Started a second diver
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_04_11_10_4_04_46_4.JPG)
I am also in the middle of reducing the height of the original figures by chopping off the boots and redoing them.
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Cut down the legs on the first one a bit. Still to finish working on the boots.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_04_11_10_11_56_16_0.JPG)
Started adding green stuff to the second figure. First layer still drying.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_04_11_10_11_56_16_1.JPG)
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Getting better all the time, lovin' these :-*
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Nice work GM 8)
...... though I'm feeling a little perturbed after looking back at the first image of diver 2 ...... :o .......he seems to have had some radical surgery performed on his nether regions! :'(
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...... though I'm feeling a little perturbed after looking back at the first image of diver 2 ...... :o .......he seems to have had some radical surgery performed on his nether regions! :'(
Ooooh yes, that looks like a painful procedure :o lol
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Sorry guys.
When I am making the helmets I am building them on a piece of wire to give me something to hold. I cut the wire off before sitting the helmet on the shoulders. The picture you are talking about shows that bit of wire, with the helmet just resting in place not fixed.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_05_11_10_11_20_36.JPG)
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Oh yes, very nice indeed. :-*
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Splendid stuff Colin, I do like the new height for the aquanaught.
How many are you thinking of in total?
cheers
James
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I am thinking of a squad of 10 or so.
Will see how I get on.
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We are going to use Coplestone russian sailors for the normal troops/crew for the army.
This is the first attempt at painting them. Struggling a bit to do the stripes neatly. Looks a lot better with the 2' rule :D
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_13_11_10_11_25_48_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_13_11_10_11_25_47_0.JPG)
What do you think of the colour scheme?
Is it starting to look to French?
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Not too French, I think he works as Nemo's crew.
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Even from this close it looks neat.
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Oh La La! ;D
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Great work as usual GM you might find this figure of interest
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/previews/latest/50232
there might be scale issues though knowing this range
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Works for me Colin, looking good! :-*
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I think Riveresco does some divers also
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Doesn't look like you're struggling at all, that sailor looks gorgeous. As for the divers they are really starting to take shape, the first one is looking really splendid.Can't wait to see them finished.
Haarken
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We are going to use Coplestone russian sailors for the normal troops/crew for the army.
This is the first attempt at painting them. Struggling a bit to do the stripes neatly. Looks a lot better with the 2' rule :D
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_13_11_10_11_25_48_2.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/7/1912_13_11_10_11_25_47_0.JPG)
What do you think of the colour scheme?
Is it starting to look to French?
uber bit of painting 8)
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The faintly upturned corners of the moustache really help make him look "verra Franch" ;)
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Braver man than I, to even attempt stripes like that - and you're planning a whole stripey crew, too...
Looks perfectly acceptable in closeup, and like you say, the 2' rule will mean they'll look great.
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The idea of building a miniature instead of sculpting it I find sort of revolutionary. In that I consider myself a poor sculptor but a decent modeller, this opens up some new possibilities.