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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: Remington on 03 November 2010, 07:42:45 PM

Title: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: Remington on 03 November 2010, 07:42:45 PM
I am looking for photos of British at Archangelsk but stumbled on these instead. I thought they might interest someone. Should anyone have British photographs, do post them here. I will edit the title accordingly.

(http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/emptsawe.jpg)
Source: http://warandgame.com/2008/12/22/ (Scroll down a bit)

(http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/Images_Dec_2009/Archangel/001-Australian-Soldiers-Russia-1919.jpg)
Source: http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/macslog/AustralianSoldiersFightAs.html

I also found some pictures of English and Allied troops marching at Archangelsk.

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa49/Histamenos/britvol2ns1.jpg)
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa49/Histamenos/parad.jpg)

In the second picture, in the lower bit of the picture... Are these Americans or British troops? They are wearing Brodies from what I can see.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: carlos marighela on 03 November 2010, 11:44:34 PM
If you mean the one with everyone parading, I suspect they are British troops judging by the Sgts stripes and that they appear to be carring SMLEs. IIRc the US forces were equipped with US made Moisin Nagants, prior to deploying to Archangel.

The first set you posted shows Australians serving as volunteers with the Royal Fusiliers as part of Syren Force, the 1919 relief expedition.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: Remington on 04 November 2010, 12:18:10 AM
Wow, you can tell that these are SMLEs from that "distance"? Nice one. And I also hadn't spotted the stripes at all. :) Good catch there as well.

One reason why I thought these can't be American was because they are not wearing campaign hats. Most photos depict them wearing these.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: carlos marighela on 04 November 2010, 12:25:25 AM
Foresight guard, dead giveaway.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: cuprum on 04 November 2010, 04:31:53 AM
The British artillery
(http://s011.radikal.ru/i315/1011/98/f6278c57596b.jpg)
English soldiers in Russian village
(http://s014.radikal.ru/i327/1011/85/7811402fe441.jpg)
Installation of mines on Northern Dvina
(http://s010.radikal.ru/i311/1011/a3/7370d33d4d9d.jpg)
 Vehicle for making of a telephone cable of an English engineering part. Village Dvinsky the Birch forest (1919).
(http://s012.radikal.ru/i321/1011/c3/15ffd64e02f7.jpg)
The combined orchestra of 45 and 46 battalions royal fusilers addresses to peasants the Troitca has sat down. 1919.
(http://s014.radikal.ru/i328/1011/9f/d8f6d9bbf3fb.jpg)
Officers
(http://s014.radikal.ru/i329/1011/a3/fd16b286b26d.jpg)
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: Blackwolf on 04 November 2010, 06:06:12 AM
Lovely pics chaps :) Fascinating.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: Remington on 04 November 2010, 07:13:27 AM
Interesting! Not a single Brodie on these photos. It's caps all the way. It seems both are a possibility.

Thank you very much cuprum. Those are great!!
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: carlos marighela on 04 November 2010, 07:22:13 AM
Naturally enough, tin hats tend not to be worn when out of the line, except for parades and all the photos posted by cuprum are in rear areas.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: Remington on 04 November 2010, 09:46:30 AM
There seem to be no photos of the front areas it seems. The parading one is the only photo I've seen till now with Brodies.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: cuprum on 04 November 2010, 10:40:54 AM
Railway station the Bear Mountain (1919).
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/vaga_land/03_medvezhya_gora_railwaystation_19.jpg)
45th battalion Royal fusilers near Osinovo.
Dvinsky front (1919).
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/vaga_land/17_dvina_front_osinovo_1919_brit_tr.jpg)
The mule with the disassembled 3,7-inch mountain howitzer. Dvinsky front, village the Troytsa (1919).
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/vaga_land/16_dvina_front_troitsa_1919_brit_ar.jpg)
Arkhangelsk, Bakaritsa, 1919.
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/vaga_land/11_rus_sold_brit_army_navy_officers.jpg)
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: cuprum on 04 November 2010, 11:24:06 AM
Americans are necessary? Serbs? Italians?
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: Remington on 04 November 2010, 11:47:47 AM
Oh, I am personally only looking for British, but we could make this into a general allied thread for people looking for information on that theatre. So, feel free to post more pictures of any allied intervention force. :)
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: traveller on 04 November 2010, 05:55:29 PM
Great photos! Thanks!
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: killshot on 05 November 2010, 02:31:33 AM
Here's a website about the American Polar Bear Expedition:

http://polarbears.si.umich.edu/

Loads of photos

Something I've personally been considering as a project, but just haven't had time.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: cuprum on 06 November 2010, 02:49:37 AM
Parade of allies in Murmansk, on the occasion of the First World War termination (November, 1918)
(http://s012.radikal.ru/i320/1011/15/44262e0def6c.jpg)
(http://s015.radikal.ru/i332/1011/cb/7952e8ebaba3.jpg)
The Serbs protecting a site of the Murmansk railway (1919)
(http://s015.radikal.ru/i331/1011/ed/69c4943abc58.jpg)
Americans
(http://s015.radikal.ru/i330/1011/c2/9dd92f7a5123.jpg)
75 Gun Crew of 3rd Platoon, 339th Inf., American Troops, North Russian Expedionary Force, Russia 19.05.1919
(http://s009.radikal.ru/i307/1011/e5/6e34b96e8815.jpg)
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: carlos marighela on 06 November 2010, 06:40:16 AM
Thanks again. The first one is quite well known but I have'nt seen the others before. The one of the Italians is very interesting, looks like a mix of Bersaglieri and Alpini. Hopefully you'll have a photo showing the Polish contingent.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: cuprum on 07 November 2010, 08:10:47 AM
These photos of Poles in Russian North to me were sent by my friend and asked to place them here.
General Ironside inspects Polish Murmansk troops in Obieziersk, July 1919
(http://s013.radikal.ru/i322/1011/11/e201f21ebfbc.jpg)
Homecoming troops from Murmansk 1919 parading in Warsaw. Painting by M. Bylina
(http://s010.radikal.ru/i312/1011/af/f367ee4b3023.jpg)
The bear cub named Baska in Murmansk
(http://s016.radikal.ru/i335/1011/6f/4c36b33c95e7.jpg)
Poles in Kleszzow, Murmansk
(http://s009.radikal.ru/i308/1011/08/2122cf3ec5eb.jpg)
And reconstruction on last photo:
(http://s015.radikal.ru/i332/1011/2c/e7e52d26c506.jpg)
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: carlos marighela on 07 November 2010, 12:45:12 PM
Wow! many thanks cuprum. greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Allied intervention at Archangelsk
Post by: Remington on 07 November 2010, 03:09:16 PM
Indeed! I am glad there as so many interesting pictures. Hopefully this will become a good inspiration thread for anyone interested to create an interventionist army.