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Title: Warfare
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 17, 2010, 08:10:51 PM
I'll be trading both days and I know a few other unsavory types will be going aswell  ;) so come and say hello.

cheers

James
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 17, 2010, 09:03:15 PM
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few other unsavory types

Easy, we know where your stand is.............................  >:D
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Bullshott on November 17, 2010, 09:33:02 PM
I'll be there on Saturday
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Malamute on November 17, 2010, 10:19:15 PM
Unsavoury, not me, I am sweetness and light ;D
See you on Sunday. I will purposefully be making a nuisance of myself in the vicinity of Oshiro models. :D
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 17, 2010, 10:45:57 PM
I am there on Sunday and I believe Phil Robinson and Yankee Pedlar will be there too.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Captain Blood on November 18, 2010, 12:08:32 AM
Moi aussi. Sunday. We must meet for a tepid cup of tea and a stale bun from the trestle tables in the sports hall, where hordes of saddoes are to be found playing joyless competition games with half painted armies on upturned Subbuteo cloths...  ;)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Malamute on November 18, 2010, 07:05:43 AM
Moi aussi. Sunday. We must meet for a tepid cup of tea and a stale bun from the trestle tables in the sports hall, where hordes of saddoes are to be found playing joyless competition games with half painted armies on upturned Subbuteo cloths...  ;)

My favourite part of the show lol
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Rich J on November 18, 2010, 07:28:16 AM
Will be there Saturday and probably after a few bits from you in fact :)

Rich J
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 18, 2010, 09:23:07 AM
Ooo, jolly good. Let me know know and I'll keep them to one side  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Thunderchicken on November 18, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Warfare or the Caribbean? Warfare or the Caribbean? Warfare or the Caribbean? It's a tough one lads.

Jimbib, the War Studies group at my uni are jumping on a coach and heading to Warfare. I told them your stand is a must.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 18, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
Thanks old bean and 'The Caribbean', really???  ;)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Hammers on November 18, 2010, 02:40:36 PM
Moi aussi. Sunday. We must meet for a tepid cup of tea and a stale bun from the trestle tables in the sports hall, where hordes of saddoes are to be found playing joyless competition games with half painted armies on upturned Subbuteo cloths...  ;)

What depressive images you have the power to conjure, Richard...
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 18, 2010, 02:50:05 PM
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Moi aussi. Sunday. We must meet for a tepid cup of tea and a stale bun from the trestle tables in the sports hall, where hordes of saddoes are to be found playing joyless competition games with half painted armies on upturned Subbuteo cloths... 


What depressive images you have the power to conjure, Richard...

Not an image he has conjured up, I'm afraid, but a horrible reality................  :o
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Silent Invader on November 18, 2010, 04:03:53 PM
where hordes of saddoes are to be found playing joyless competition games with half painted armies on upturned Subbuteo cloths...  ;)

Golly is it really that bad?  If so I am afraid that BLAM has spoilt me for any other convention!
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 18, 2010, 04:10:23 PM
I have to admit that I go for the shopping............  :-* :o 8)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Thunderchicken on November 18, 2010, 04:17:02 PM
Golly is it really that bad? 

It is I'm afraid, they get really annoyed and/or confused if you try and talk to them too.

Jimbib, yep the real Caribbean.  ;)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Captain Blood on November 18, 2010, 04:37:40 PM
Please don't be put off - it's a good event for shopping and display games... It's one of only 2 or 3 events I always try to get to.
It's just that there's this whole other hall full of anorak-wearing, swivel-eyed rules lawyers pushing semi-painted armies at each other across bare green baize.
Pure competition with virtually no effort at any asthetic appeal in the game...  ::)

In other words, the antithesis of what we LAFers tend to love, which is lovely terrain and scenery, beautifully painted figures, original scenarios and fun tabletop adventures...
It's a different hobby really. I don't know whay they don't just play chess.
It's probably how many of us started back in the days of WRG world domination. I certainly did. I'm just shocked by how many people are still stuck doing the same old thing and haven't moved on... It always looks utterly joyless to me, but I guess they must like it  :)

I shall take some pics for you...  ;)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Silent Invader on November 18, 2010, 05:07:05 PM
Shopping is always good (well, at the time, later reflection isn't always quite so good!).  So there are also display games (along the lines of BLAM etc?) to counter the green baize brigade... that's encouraging.  :)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Silent Invader on November 18, 2010, 05:18:47 PM
The show website appears to be down  :?

http://www.readingwargames.co.uk/warfare.asp (http://www.readingwargames.co.uk/warfare.asp)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on November 18, 2010, 08:00:53 PM
It's an excellent show - recommended. However, regarding competition games. I was bit shocked 2 or 3 years ago when we had a visit from "The Committee" on the Sunday because someone in the competitions games had complained because we were selling loaded dice. I was stunned to think anyone would even remotely consider using them in a game but it turned out that this hadn't happened. It was just that the complainer thought so little of his fellow competitors that he was worried about the mere possibility that someone may use them.

Never in a million years did I think they'd be used in a game except as a joke or wind-up (they are so obviously biased, they'd be spotted right away anyway) but this competitions enthusiast obviously thought they may be.

Strange.....

Doug
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Thunderchicken on November 18, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
I completely agree with Capt B's comments. It's the competition hall I avoid, I find nothing inspiring or entertaining in there but each to their own.

The rest of the show is excellent and it'll be a shame to miss it this year.  :'(
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 19, 2010, 12:51:23 AM
Well, if you will go galavanting off to foreign climes...  ;D ;) :)

Hope you have a spiffing time (git ;) )

cheers

James
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: elysium64 on November 19, 2010, 03:18:16 AM
I might go Sunday, only thing putting me off is that am working 6-11.30 in pub that night. I'll see if I can persuade friend to drive.....
If I do I will come over and introduce myself.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Malamute on November 19, 2010, 08:39:23 AM
Elysium64 It would be nice to meet you. I'll see the rest of the direputable bunch on sunday ;)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 19, 2010, 08:57:19 AM
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direputable bunch

I thought you meant us for a moment, but this is not a nice description of the cheesy, rules lawyers who play competitions....................
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Mr Mipps on November 19, 2010, 03:51:33 PM
I'll be there on the Parkfield Stand.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Mors on November 19, 2010, 09:20:56 PM
I was going Saturday , probably Sunday now due to swimming commitments ( obviously not me swimming! ) . I enjoy the show and normally spend more than I do at Salute. It's easier to park on the Sunday I think so that's a good thing. There are normally a few participation games in the sports hall , Dunstable Generals normally have a good simple game on in there and seem to remember Dr Who last year, so don't completely ignore it, however once you run into a upside down subbuteo cloth do a about turn.
The beer is also c**p.
Mors
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Malamute on November 19, 2010, 11:02:05 PM
See you Sunday John. :)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on November 19, 2010, 11:10:40 PM
I will be there on Sunday, complete with my bearer to carry the heavy load of pre-ordered figures. ;)
David
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 19, 2010, 11:42:15 PM
The beer is also c**p.

Serving it in plastic doesn't help  ::)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 20, 2010, 01:20:08 AM
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my bearer

Poor Phil, and after he raised the money to buy these enormous container loads of figures.  :'(
No wonder he is in favour of plastics! lol
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Mors on November 21, 2010, 04:42:56 PM
The beers not c**p any more, it's non existent. I needed a drink too after somewhat going over budget.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 21, 2010, 05:19:41 PM
A good show, overall.  Spent loads, especially on Musketeer and Gripping Beast, loved the new Squire, school master and students and Scarecrow sets.    :-*

Also saw the really nice VBCW game, the cloth cap and tank top were a nice touch.  :o

Met new friends, Jim Bibbly and Malamute and old ones, Yankee Pedlar and Phil Robinson.  Nice to put real faces to Avatars ............   ;)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Captain Blood on November 21, 2010, 05:55:23 PM
Lest you doubt me, friends, a few snaps of the competition hall... There were 10 rows of tables like this  :o

Note the attractive groundcloths and irregular pieces of felt and even coloured paper (yes, real paper) serving as hills, woods and so on...

Quality.

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3677.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3678.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3680.jpg)

All these chaps are, no doubt, decent fellows, entitled to enjoy their wargaming however they like...
I realise it is, to all intents and purposes (as was remarked to me) a different hobby...  ::)

Compare and contrast a couple of the nicer display games that caught my eye...


The rather nice VBCW set up, Joroas mentions above...

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3682.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3683.jpg)


An extremely beautiful Wild West skirmish game...

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3685.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3687.jpg)


And a spectacular WW2 landing game complete with harbour...

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3688.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3689.jpg)


Ah well... Each to their own, I suppose...  ;)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Ray Rivers on November 21, 2010, 06:39:16 PM

It's probably how many of us started back in the days of WRG world domination. I certainly did. I'm just shocked by how many people are still stuck doing the same old thing and haven't moved on...

I did as well.

10 tables, heh?   :o

Holy Moly!
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 21, 2010, 06:41:34 PM
Nice piccies, I think you caught the flavour of the gaming? hall ( The Good, The Bad and The Ugly). 
I was so impressed by the VBCW game that I went and bought that Hovels church...........  8)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Silent Invader on November 21, 2010, 06:54:29 PM
Fascinating photos.  The wild west game looks luscious.  Interesting pics of the comp games.  Presumably such wargaming is mostly about winning (obviously it's not about the terrain!).  As had been observed previously, it is distinctly different to the adventure type gaming (story-telling with miniatures, some rules and a dose of chance) that tends to be played by LAFers.  I'd sometimes wondered why LAF doesn't have a bigger membership and now, maybe, I now why: it seems a lot of wargamers just aren't interested in the peripheral stuff that permeates this forum.  Each to their own, of course.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Westfalia Chris on November 21, 2010, 07:22:13 PM
I have to admit that when our then group used to play a lot of Warhammer Ancient Battles and Warhammer Panzer Battles, our chief objective was to have an exciting battle (and usually it ended with everybody routing, tanks/elephants burning to the left and right, and a great time was had by all).

We usually compromised in that we had area markers for woodland, onto which tree bases (with structured surface and all) were placed, and proper (if a bit terraced) hills just so that movement of the regiments wasn't such a bloody hassle. Given that nowadays I've drifted more towards skirmish games, I guess I'd rather go for the sculpted terrain if I had the storage space.

But the above is sad. Really. Rather than play like that, I'd even play real time strategy computer games.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Keith on November 21, 2010, 07:35:38 PM
Had a great weekend, everyone seemed to be having a good time. Met the rather excellent Mr and Mrs JimBibbly (who are both very bad people and as a result I have started an unplanned Japan project  :D ) and Mr Malamute, who is a gentleman and a scholar to be sure. I've a suspicion that I've also met lots of other forumites this weekend but they didn't seem to look like their avatars so I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 21, 2010, 07:49:39 PM
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I've a suspicion that I've also met lots of other forumites this weekend but they didn't seem to look like their avatars so I'm not sure.

I was there on Sunday and saw no-one wearing a fez either!  :-X
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 21, 2010, 09:21:54 PM
There were a couple of Gandalf look-a-likes though  ;)

Good show for me and a pleasure to meet fellow LAFers for the first time and of course meeting the usual trouble makers  ;D ;)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: elysium64 on November 21, 2010, 10:42:29 PM
Unfortunately I didn't make it due to a stomach bug :-[
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Malamute on November 21, 2010, 11:03:35 PM
Yep it was good to meet  both new and old friends, sorry I missed Yankeepedlar and his bearer though...
And for the first time ever I went home without purchasing anything :o not sure how that happened!
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Hammers on November 22, 2010, 09:55:22 AM

An extremely beautiful Wild West skirmish game...

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x69/pantomaniac/IMG_3685.jpg)
 

Oh, aye...! Is that teddy bear fur used to such nice effect again? If it is, to hell with the boys, I am skinning their cuddly animals. They are almost 1 and 3 years anyway and it is time they toughen up!
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Malamute on November 22, 2010, 09:58:32 AM
Yep it was teddy bear fur and it suited the figures which are 54mm not 28mm.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on November 22, 2010, 01:00:14 PM
Yep it was good to meet  both new and old friends, sorry I missed Yankeepedlar and his bearer though...
And for the first time ever I went home without purchasing anything :o not sure how that happened!

Well, we were both there all day on the Sunday! You bought nothing? Call yourself a wargamer? I don't know what the world is coming too... I bought heaps of stuff, literally.

The new Empress Boers, which I think are excellent, even ordered more this morning!

Heaps of loose [Foundry] Indian Mutiny types ~ my 'bearer' says I was as happy as a pig in muck while trawling through all those boxes of loose figures. Actually, he didn't say 'muck'  ;) but you get the idea I'm sure.

Two 20mm WWII French civilians on cycles from Sergeant's Mess, lovely company, great products.

Some Zulu civilian figures [the Foundry range] to supplement the ones I got from Newline, I think, last year to populate my village.

I quite enjoyed the show, though I didn't think that the 'display' games were as numerous as in previous years. The VBCW game was really nice, lots of idiocyncratic details to feast the eyes on; the Warlords' Bulge game impressed me ~ love the rocket firing planes;the 54mm Plastics Western game which looked brilliant I thought, my choice for best game anyway.

David
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: joroas on November 22, 2010, 01:15:36 PM
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I quite enjoyed the show, though I didn't think that the 'display' games were as numerous as in previous years. The VBCW game was really nice, lots of idiocyncratic details to feast the eyes on; the Warlords' Bulge game impressed me ~ love the rocket firing planes;the 54mm Plastics Western game which looked brilliant I thought, my choice for best game anyway.


.. and if David thought your game was good that is praise, indeed.  He did take photos of these three games, so I imagine they will be in GHQ at some point...........  8)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Phil Robinson on November 22, 2010, 06:34:02 PM
More pics of the rather spiffing VBCW game here

http://gwargamesp.18.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=3913&st=0

Inspired to get my SCW forces out on Wednesday, bring it on Bikkliski.
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on November 22, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
More pics of the rather spiffing VBCW game here

http://gwargamesp.18.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=3913&st=0

Inspired to get my SCW forces out on Wednesday, bring it on Bikkliski.
Remind me, Phil, how many of our SCW games have you won? How many have I won? Must be your turn on Wednewsday then, at last... :'(
David
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Ray Rivers on November 22, 2010, 07:29:52 PM
More pics of the rather spiffing VBCW game here

Is that a bicycle mounted machine gun??  :-*
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Phil Robinson on November 22, 2010, 07:40:10 PM
Is that a bicycle mounted machine gun??  :-*

Rather neat is it not, quote from GWP "The 'bedstead' is a motor-assisted quadricycle, armed with a B.A.R. - based heavily on the Simms' quadricycle of 1898".

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/olafnn/simms-motor-scout_1193486.jpg)
Title: Re: Warfare
Post by: Thargor on November 25, 2010, 11:22:20 PM
I was there both days, running the participation Freebooter's Fate game in the competition hall.  Managed to have a quick look around some of the other tables and a quick trip into the trading area to check whether a specific trader had stock/ deals available.  Didn't really get the chance to look anybody else up though.  Sorry not to have met you all.