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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Poiter50 on December 06, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
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Has anyone on LAF ventured into the murky waters of Bushranging in Oz? I have acquired a Stage Coach, some troopers and an officer together with 2 armoured helmet types to represent Ned Kelly and a compadre. Probably use LOTOW as a rule set but other rules and scenarios are welcome. All 25/28mm.
Also have some civilians including some Chinese being done up and was thinking that the Sarissa Precision buildings would be useful for town type.
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What about those new Empress Boers? I reckon they'd be pretty good.
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Christian, thinking more on rule sets and scenarios.
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Due to the desperate straights that the Australian selectors find themselves in, I suspect that Cameron White will be picked for the perth Test so I don't expect he will do to much Bushranging this summer.
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Boothill Texans would make good bushrangers, just been looking at mine after reading this post. Anyone remember the series 'Ben Hall'?
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I would say "Legends of the Old West" rules would be perfect for this scale of game. Bushrangers could use the Outlaw posse and the police could use the Lawmen posse. The included scenarios would almost suffice as well.
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Yeah that'd be my first guess. You get a decent range of weapons. You might even get some useful stuff out of Legends of the High seas, too.
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Hi Yes I remember Ben Hall, it was my Dads favourite programme. I was only a young whipper-snapper, Im almost 48 now. It was on the BBC on a Sunday night. I think Ben came to sticky end, like Ned. THE CID.
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I have a Ned Kelly figure (I must paint it up o_o ) but I have been hanging out for more generic bush rangers and some police figures before getting too excited.
I will be using 'The Rules With No Name' should I ever get figures to do the project.
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Perry Miniatures have a new ACW rioting range coming out that might provide some brawling figures for something like the Tavern brawl in LOTHS. Some Foundry ACW infantry in sackcloth coats might be useful as some of the Colonial police wore kepis.
Ben Hall was a great series, I'm old enough to have seen it on ABC.
Thanks for provoking the brain cells, guys.
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Go to Blazeaway.com.au they have an Australian colonial range including bush rangers and aboriginals.
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Yes, I have the Blaze away stuff in mind but I'm also looking at some of the Foundry OW range to allow for town brawls, coach and bank robberies as well as gold diggings thefts/claim jumping etc.
It looks like LOTOW will be a favourite rule set.
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Yeah did'nt Hall get ambushed while taking a nap in the series, was a long time ago i watched it so not sure?
Went to Glenrowan once or twice when i was in Oz, think that would make a good game with the Kelly gang holed up under siege. Wonder if any Union cavalry in sackcoats and kepis would fit for the coppers?
Lot of potential with this idea, nice one Poiter 50!
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I like my Victorian outback coppers to have a hint of East End gangland about them...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/2006_the_proposition_008.jpg)
Saw "The Proposition" the other night and must say I really enjoyed it. A Western transplanted Down Under really, but none the worse for that. Made a nice change that they didn't turn the outlaws into folk heroes or romantic rebels, as usually happens in this kind of thing. Mostly they were just scumbags.
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Made a nice change that they didn't turn the outlaws into folk heroes or romantic rebels, as usually happens in this kind of thing. Mostly they were just scumbags.
We do that enough here, just look at the Rugby League.
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Saw "The Proposition" the other night and must say I really enjoyed it. A Western transplanted Down Under really, but none the worse for that. Made a nice change that they didn't turn the outlaws into folk heroes or romantic rebels, as usually happens in this kind of thing. Mostly they were just scumbags.
Written by Nick Cave, arguably Australia's finest musician and (damn his eyes) a man who has shagged PJ Harvey, a notable achievement in and of itself.
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Don't forget the West Wind Gothic Horror range for civvies also. I have gotten a lot of milegage out of the London Thugs pack, for example. http://www.oldglory25s.com/index.php?cat_id=523&catname='Jack the Ripper' (http://www.oldglory25s.com/index.php?cat_id=523&catname='Jack the Ripper')
The ondon Mob and Gentlemen are very good general purpose packs also. http://www.oldglory25s.com/index.php?cat_id=530&catname='Jekyll & Hyde' (http://www.oldglory25s.com/index.php?cat_id=530&catname='Jekyll & Hyde')
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I spoke to Michael Broadbent about this thread last night. I mention to pop over and read your thoughts as I know Michael is interested in this period.
Besides which, I've seen all the movies and TV series and they are just the best. I really enjoyed "The Proposition" with good old Ray. Nice import for a change.
The "Rules with No Name" were given to me by Michael and they fit the period perfectly.
Cheers,
Helen
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I actually have an old Ned and some police in civvies, or bushrangers if you like, that Mike B. did years ago. At least I bought them from him & I presume they were his.
Plus I have a few of the (now Blaze Away) aboriginals and a stagecoach (Dixons) and an open wagon. Many of the Victorian & western ranges have figures that suit, plus some colonial - the boers being the most likely.
I have gamed this period occasionally, but in 54mm using Skirmish Wargames rules. Any western ruleset would work well. One day I'll get to painting up the 28mm ones.
I did start and plan a campaign that included bushrangers, police, British troops, aboriginals, miners, settlers & squatters. Bushrangers tried to steal a wealthy squatters prize horse, then the miners refused to pay the increased license fees.......you can guess where that one was heading. The Brits had to build a bridge and the aboriginals objected and attacked. I had a system in mind of the bushrangers getting more wanted and the local population that was cheering them on would all have thier 'dollar limit', so when the reward was high enough the gang would be sold out if they met that person again - as per Ben Hall. Never got that far, though.
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Sounds brilliant Iceaxe, Eureka Stockade sort of thing. Be another use for Crimean British figures and perhaps some civil war types for the miners, ragged Reb types?
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Aborigine: noun.
Aborigines: noun (pl)
Aboriginal: adjective.
Sorry, pet peeve of mine.
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Pet peeve or not, 'aboriginal' is both an adjective and a noun.
While I respect your immense knowledge on many varied topics, which has proved useful to LAFers on many, many occasions; I'm afraid you don't outrank the O.E.D. :)
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Preferred usage and indeed common usage is aborigine as the noun form when referring to an individual or the plural form aborigines when used in reference to a group. THe OED does acknowledge its use as a noun form and the common usage in that form is as a proper noun, ie: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission, Aboriginal Tent Embassy etc etc. The common usage of aboriginal, at least in Australia, is as an adjective, ie aboriginal art, aboriginal land etc
The OED may well be right but contextually the use of the word aboriginal as a noun when referring to individuals is both archaic and rather odd sounding. You do hear it in Queensland and other parts of Australia that lack a functional education system.
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TimG, yes Eureka Stockade indeed. I have some Old glory Maori War figures for both the 1840's and 1860's. The '40's are passable as Crimea era, or vice-versa (yes I know there are differences, but at 28mm once the game is on I don't notice them) and I would extend the campaign to NZ & the Maori Wars as well. And PNG, maybe include the Germans there, have the Dutch in their East Indies, the French all over the Pacific, the threat of a Russian invasion, post-Crimea.
I tend to do fictional battles, wars, units, etc based in the real world....or sort of the real world....so moving the Eureka Stockade, Glenrowan shootout and whatever else takes your fancy to the same time & place is easy.
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You do hear it in Queensland and other parts of Australia that lack a functional education system.
lol lol lol
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Carlos, you are a naughty boy... lol
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TimG, yes Eureka Stockade indeed.....I tend to do fictional battles, wars, units, etc based in the real world....or sort of the real world....so moving the Eureka Stockade, Glenrowan shootout and whatever else takes your fancy to the same time & place is easy.
Never a truer word than a "fictional" Eureka stockade. A jumped-up brawl with guns. One of the more unedifying incidents in Australian colonial history and blown out of all proportion by symbol-hunters.
It'd be fun but only in a what-if of having the miners sober, awake and organised.
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Eureka, the heroic struggle for miners to reap the wealth of the land without paying taxes. It's a battle that continues to this day. Actually, based on his later political life I suspect Peter Lalor would have felt right at home with 'Twiggy' Forrest, Hugh Morgan or Lang Hangcock.
I've oft thought that the Sovereign Hill theme park has missed a golden opportunity with their som e lumiere show. Blood on the Wattle, the story of the Eureka Stockade, proudly brought to you by BHP Billiton.
;)
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I always fancied doing gunfight games based on Australian bushrangers etc., ever since watching Ben Hall, Rush etc on the telly, and the Sam Neill version of Robbery Under Arms, and more recently - The Proposition. Also the book "Wild Colonial Boys" is just brim full of scenarios. 8)
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