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Title: The Keep movie
Post by: richarDISNEY on December 17, 2010, 04:22:27 PM
It looks like The Keep has been added to Netflix streaming for insta view....

http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/The_Keep/70153886?trkid=2744492#height2002

Bad movie, but cool idea.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: swiftnick on December 17, 2010, 05:11:38 PM
I thought it was quite good. I have the video somewhere.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: ErikB on December 17, 2010, 05:19:38 PM
I liked the movie.  Not brilliantly made, the music was bad, but the setting, idea, characters, and story were great.  I always wished there were sequels.

Reminds me of the Dune movies in terms of being a bad production of a great story.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Hammers on December 17, 2010, 05:39:45 PM
A real stinker.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: shadowking1957 on December 17, 2010, 06:41:44 PM
The movie was OK the book was far better, an excellent read...

Tony
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: ErikB on December 17, 2010, 07:43:03 PM
One thing I liked about the movie is that it took me to a place in E. Europe that I had never seen and had no idea about. 

That's one of the things I like about historical movies (not that this was really history).
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Calimero on December 17, 2010, 10:18:32 PM

Is that the movie were a bunch of German soldiers stop in a fortress which turn out to be some evil entity’s prison? If so I’ve seen it on tele ages ago. If memory serve me well (don’t bet on it…) it was okay but not great… :?
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Jakar Nilson on December 18, 2010, 06:09:51 AM
Is that the movie were a bunch of German soldiers stop in a fortress which turn out to be some evil entity’s prison? If so I’ve seen it on tele ages ago. If memory serve me well (don’t bet on it…) it was okay but not great… :?

Yep, that's the one. And Ian McKellen is in it, this time as the wheel-chair-bound professor.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: majorsmith on December 18, 2010, 08:47:54 AM
I thought it was quite a good film, as for the music, damn awesome don't knock tangerine dream!!!
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Alfrik on December 18, 2010, 04:47:36 PM
If you watch it knowing its a B movie and have fun laughing at the worst parts, its kinda a fun movie!
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Connectamabob on December 19, 2010, 02:21:31 AM
I love this movie.

Oh, it's not a great movie by any stretch: the script & editing are pretty muddled, the acting is waaaay all over the map, and the ancient magic McGuffin is probably the most hilariously bad prop in all of B-movie history.

...But the setting is one of the most awesomely creepy places you've ever see in a movie (seriously, you couldn't pay me to sleep there even if it wasn't haunted). The music, though odd, is also awesome and adds a whole new layer of dreamlike weirdness to the atmosphere. I also love how the good guy/bad guy dynamic focuses on the difference between regular Wehrmacht as mostly ordinary blokes trying to get by, and the SS/Einsatzkommandos as evil Nazis proper.

The book is great too. The comparison with the David Lynch version of Dune is a very apt one IMO: both have very striking and well executed visuals, both have excellent casts who deliver often oddly poor performances, both have weak & muddied scripts and editing, and both inspire very similar arguments among fans of the source material.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: goon3423 on December 19, 2010, 05:43:41 AM
You gotta read the book. it's a good as the movie is bad  :D! It's funny that this came up, I just started watching this on Netflix a few days ago and after a few minutes I remembered how much I hated it. This is one movie that is ripe for a good remake if one were to make it much, much closer to the book.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Colonel Tubby on December 19, 2010, 10:57:50 AM
I've never seen the film but I did read the book in my early teens!

Can't remember if it was good or not, the only vauge memory I seem to have is of gold crosses built into a wall? :?
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Connectamabob on December 19, 2010, 11:49:12 AM
Brass uprights with nickle crosspieces in the book, full nickle crosses in the movie. Well, most of them ;).

There was an attempt to remake/re-adapt The Keep a few years ago, but it never got past the early planning stages. IMO a two part TV miniseries would be the way to do it if you wanted to get the full story of the book in there. A single movie would have to cut stuff in order to come in at a decent length without rushing things along too much.

...Which is what the Micheal Mann film did with the dropping of the vampire stratagem subplot. A book-accurate ending was filmed and was supposed to be in there, but the studio went back and butchered recut it after the filmmakers were finished. The footage still exists (you can find parts of it on youtube), and there's occasional rumors of a DVD directors cut release that would be much tidier and truer to the book, but it's never come together for one reason or another.

There was a graphic novel adaptation at one point that was supposed to be pretty much verbatim to the book, but I've only ever seen snippets of it. The art is kind of Mike Mignola-ish, which is pretty appropriate IMO.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: white knight on December 19, 2010, 12:49:34 PM
I have the graphic novel. It's quite good.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Calimero on December 19, 2010, 01:12:46 PM

What’s the name of the author of the original book?
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Connectamabob on December 19, 2010, 02:06:56 PM
F. Paul Wilson:

http://www.amazon.com/Keep-Adversary-Cycle-Paul-Wilson/dp/0765327392/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1292767671&sr=1-1
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: mattblackgod on December 19, 2010, 08:55:45 PM
As others have said the movie isnt great but passable. Watch it with the fact it is a B movie and you will enjoy it more. Great setting for a game. I also read the book back in my teens, as I recall it was a good book.
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: ErikB on December 20, 2010, 07:30:24 PM
Wonderful setting for a game, that's for sure.

Does anyone know where it was set?  Or where it was filmed?
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Colonel Tubby on December 20, 2010, 07:36:34 PM
Wonderful setting for a game, that's for sure.

Does anyone know where it was set?  Or where it was filmed?

I think the book was set in Romania.

No idea about the film mind you! IMDB time!
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: JollyBob on December 22, 2010, 11:12:23 AM
Got to agree that the book was much better than the film, but even so, with a couple of beers inside you and your brain off the hook its not a bad watch.

...


This is making me wonder if I have ever watched a film sober... A little bit worrying that. Still, it makes it easier to watch 'em again cos I don't remember what happened at the end...  :?
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Hammers on December 22, 2010, 12:00:15 PM
This is making me wonder if I have ever watched a film sober... 

Well, you don't do your online shopping sober so why would you?  ;)
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: JollyBob on December 22, 2010, 12:06:02 PM
You just had to bring that up, didn't you?  lol
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Stecal on December 22, 2010, 04:16:06 PM
The book was great, the movie disappointed me.  Seems cliche'd now (Nazis vs Vampires & Zombies) , but was probably very original when it came out.  I suspect both have been the source of many computer games in the last 20 years (Castle Wolfenstein?)
Title: Re: The Keep movie
Post by: Uncle Mike on December 23, 2010, 09:53:39 PM
Great novel...slightly Lovecraftian references always please me and there are a few...the movie is pretty brutal but still a fun watch if you've never seen it. Also, there was a comic adaptation a while back. I've got the single issues and a graphic novel around somewhere...fairly well done, pretty cool art if memory serves. :)