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Title: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Thunderchicken on 09 January 2011, 03:49:48 PM
I'm looking for a UK source for loose bricks and rubble to create some ruined houses in 28mm. It'll be for houses along the lines of the Victorian builds I've been working on recently so any help would be appreciated.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=23647.0

Years ago I found a source for packets of literally hundreds of loose bricks which would have worked perfectly but I'm buggered if I can remember where I found them!

Thanks.
TC
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 09 January 2011, 03:53:43 PM
O Guage bricks
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-REAL-MINIATURE-BRICKS-MODEL-RAILWAYS-O-GAUGE-/320313192649?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4a942770c9

smaller scales are cheaper.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Thunderchicken on 09 January 2011, 03:55:46 PM
Aha! eBay! Missed that one off the list. Thanks Dean.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 09 January 2011, 06:38:48 PM
No problem. Pegasus Hobbies also do packs of various types but Ebay is probably your best bet. For non brick rubble I'd just use broken up plaster.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Alfrik on 09 January 2011, 07:05:39 PM
Here's how I make my bricks with a rectangular hole punch and 2mm colored foam sheeting;

http://armoredink.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-brick-making-material.html

even the left over sheet material can be chopped up to make brick bits.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Svennn on 09 January 2011, 07:06:32 PM
There is a bag on my painting table that came from a magazine or somewhere. Shall I give them to the postman?
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Thunderchicken on 09 January 2011, 10:18:29 PM
Cheers Alfrik, that's a good system you've got there.

Svennn, happy to come and pick them up.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Andym on 09 January 2011, 10:52:36 PM
Have you tried looking at our model diorama counterparts methods? Some are a bit too detailed and extreme but you can definatley learn something from them.

This guys build, though not a Victorian house, is a great example. This is the second page of his build which shows how he makes his rubble...http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=143043&page=2 (http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=143043&page=2)

Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Lowtardog on 09 January 2011, 11:43:13 PM
Havent looked but bet Antenocitis sell them
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: 6milPhil on 10 January 2011, 12:58:48 AM
I bought a bag, but thought they were a bit pricey, so glued a few bricks individually to pieces of wood, stabbed away with those into plasticine and did plaster casts off those. The result was good enough to use, cost a fraction of what it might, plus I found I could manage to use the plasticine mould up to three times if I was careful with them.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: digimortal on 10 January 2011, 03:36:20 AM
There is a guy on ebay selling bags of bricks and other dolls house stuff, I was lucky enough to get a two for one deal.

http://stores.ebay.com.au/MINACO-UK
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Thunderchicken on 10 January 2011, 07:56:52 PM
Thanks chaps! Plenty to be getting on with there.  :)
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: thejammedgatling on 13 January 2011, 01:38:51 PM
I like the pegasus ones but they are pricey, so I tend to make my own to pile and add a few of the nice ones in as top dressing. My rubble mix is basically bricks (made from finely chopped cork floor tiles which give them a nice clay like texture), crushed brick and limestone as rubble, balsa strips for fallen timbers and smashed acetate sheets for glass.
BTW, your buildings are excellent and I was waiting to see if you'd go down the path of making a few which had taken some damage.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Bako on 15 January 2011, 05:16:02 AM
It's interesting seeing all the results you fellows came up with. Me? I just cut up all those left over sprues I accumulate. Works quite well, and cheap too. If you're after obvious and well-detailed bricks featuring holes through, then this is definitely not for you however.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Hammers on 18 January 2011, 08:18:48 PM
O Guage bricks
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-REAL-MINIATURE-BRICKS-MODEL-RAILWAYS-O-GAUGE-/320313192649?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4a942770c9

smaller scales are cheaper.

I bought two packs of these, thinking 0 scale bricks would be plenty. I ended up paying £22 for quite a tiny pile. I am sure there  are 500 of them, and quite neat, but it is not a lot to make piles of rubble of at that price!
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 18 January 2011, 10:20:04 PM
I bought two packs of these, thinking 0 scale bricks would be plenty. I ended up paying £22 for quite a tiny pile. I am sure there  are 500 of them, and quite neat, but it is not a lot to make piles of rubble of at that price!

I'd have thought you'd only use them on the top of rubble piles like detail points.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Alfrik on 18 January 2011, 11:35:40 PM
I build a base of putty or some such, then crumble on some cork, prime the mess and paint as I want it to look, then apply some dabs of glue and stick the bricks and brick bits onto to it. Saves on bricks :)
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Hammers on 18 January 2011, 11:39:58 PM
I'd have thought you'd only use them on the top of rubble piles like detail points.

That's what I will do but not what I pictured.

I am sure you know I did not say this as a slight on you, Dean. P&P to Sweden certainly ad a little to Sweden.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Andym on 22 January 2011, 08:29:18 PM
I don't think this qualifies as a Victorian building but this is using that guys technique on the Armorama forum. He ruffles up some tin foil puts some polyfilla in it (although other plasters are available!), let's it dry, then breaks it up to give some rubble. Glue that down and add some gravel/sand and your on to a winner.

(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/16b052d2.jpg)

(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/5f11d6e4.jpg)
I'm using this for a wwII game. Hope it helps TC.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Dewbakuk on 22 January 2011, 08:40:01 PM

I am sure you know I did not say this as a slight on you, Dean.

Of course old bean. I know what you mean, I was making some rockfall pieces for a board and made the first one completely from cork rocks etc. Not doing that again, the others have formers under them.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 23 January 2011, 12:31:18 AM
Sorry to come in on this one a bit late but I do know that Dave Andrews uses chopped up matchsticks for his WW1 buildings and then paints them with masonary paint. I know 'cos I asked him  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: alcal on 29 January 2013, 08:30:10 AM
Buying those little packs is expensive for decent size ruins,i use the 100mm x 600mm x 2mm balsawood sheet out of the wood bucket in any uk hobby/model shop cut into small sections and then sliced and chopped ,very soon u can be allowed to make any amount.In my gaming i have a tub of loose bricks that we throw about the table.I know its an old post but i dont think the question ever goes away does it.

Cheers Alan 



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/alcal/Buildings/DSCF0028.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/alcal/Buildings/DSCF2416.jpg)
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Hammers on 29 January 2013, 08:32:55 AM
That looks lovely.
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Silent Invader on 29 January 2013, 09:16:06 AM
I made a load of bricks yesterday, about 4mm by 2mm. 

Rolled out a pack of FIMO onto a big ceramic tile using a wine bottle then just cut in the lines (no bond work, etc).

Immediately after baking the FIMO is still a tad soft and so a little bit of lifting and gentle scrunching will snap the individual bricks apart.

The sensible thing to do is to use FIMO the colour that you want the bricks to be ...... I didn't as I just used what I already had.....

I can't tell you how many bricks a pack produces as I didn't count the lines before separating them!
Title: Re: Source for loose bricks and rubble?
Post by: Alfrik on 30 January 2013, 04:57:38 PM
No measuring, just sit, watch TV or a movie and use this store bought hole puncher and foam sheet:

(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww1/Alfrik_photos/Bricks_zps18a17e45.jpg)

http://armoredink.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-brick-making-material.html for a bit more info. Since Im just making rubble, I dont even have to be careful to get full bricks! Just punch away, change hands and build up my grip at the same time!