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Title: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 30 January 2011, 08:46:25 AM
I want my late war Germans to have the very best that the Reich can provide, and in 1949 that means no Hanomags - they want APCs! We'll leave those halftracks to the technically underdeveloped armies...

Seriously though, is this vehicle made in 28mm? 
I've been looking everywhere I can think of ...found it in 20mm, 1/144 and even 1/286 but not in 28mm or rough equivalent (ie 1/56)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 30 January 2011, 10:06:15 AM
As discussed in this thread (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8760.0) (and still state of knowledge two years on), there are no Kätzchen kits in a suitable scale. Your best bet would probably getting one of Tamiya's Panzer 38-based tank hunters and using the running gear with a scratch-built hull.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 01 February 2011, 10:33:48 AM
Thanks for the update Chris, despite the bad news...  :'(

What did you end up using for transport for your Weird War Fallschirmjägers?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 01 February 2011, 10:47:07 AM
Thanks for the update Chris, despite the bad news...  :'(

What did you end up using for transport for your Weird War Fallschirmjägers?


*Cough*

As I never finished more than two squads of powered armour, a squad of infantry and a squad of rocket troops before my immediate interest petered out, the necessity did not arise (mainly because nobody in my area was interested in 3W2). I actually finished a paper model, the first test build of which looked decent enough, but I don't have it on this computer - otherwise, I would have uploaded it.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Hat Guy on 02 February 2011, 06:37:59 AM
I figured I'd ask this here rather than wasting a new thread with a similar question:

Does any company make a 1/48 (or so) British Challenger A30 Avenger? Or failing that, a Challenger that could be converted to such without too much fuss? 
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: gundog on 02 February 2011, 07:07:32 AM
Where'd you find it in 20mm?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 02 February 2011, 07:54:59 AM
Where'd you find it in 20mm?

Agis has a pic of one by Cromwell on his website here:
http://www.agisn.de/html/20mm_german.html (http://www.agisn.de/html/20mm_german.html)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 02 February 2011, 08:01:31 PM
*Cough*

As I never finished more than two squads of powered armour, a squad of infantry and a squad of rocket troops before my immediate interest petered out, the necessity did not arise (mainly because nobody in my area was interested in 3W2). I actually finished a paper model, the first test build of which looked decent enough, but I don't have it on this computer - otherwise, I would have uploaded it.

Well - that happens to us all doesnt it (with alarming frequency in my case!)

If you find the paper model, I'd be very keen to get the file - thanks Chris
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 03 February 2011, 02:59:23 AM
About the only place to get anything weird, rare or 1/48 is the French company, Quarter Kit.  Most is resin with great details but can get pricey for the bigger, rarities but a great company and product to buy from.

Weird WWII freak,
Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 03 February 2011, 06:17:13 AM
Hi Brian - didnt you have a plan at one stage to produce a Kätzchen APC?
Looks like the market is still wide open for you! (hint hint  :D)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 03 February 2011, 09:37:09 AM
Its all about cash my friend and I ain't got any right now. :'(

But you never know what will happen in the future,
Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 14 February 2011, 09:58:22 AM
Found a 1/76 version by Fine Cast Models here:
http://www.united-fun.com/shop1/index1.html
 (http://www.united-fun.com/shop1/index1.html)
look under #Panzer 38 (1/76)

Yeah, I get it Brian. I just want some now is all  :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Capt. E.W. Brimmage on 19 June 2011, 04:53:18 PM
It's a shame no one is doing paper panzers in 28mm. There'd be a market, I too am bothered by the high tech that stops at tracked vehicles.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 20 June 2011, 02:42:28 AM
the 3D model for this is already 80% complete.  It's just a matter of detailing and fiddling with the way it gets put together for casting.  I will post the print as soon as we complete it.

Since it's in digital form, all sorts of scale versions can be printed if there really was demand for it. Probably 1/48, 1/56 and 15mm

-Brent
Company B
Gears-n-Guts
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 20 June 2011, 04:51:34 AM
1/48 for me please.

Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 24 June 2011, 09:15:25 PM
1/48 for me please.

Same here.
1/48 please.
Thanks

Amalric
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Elladan on 25 June 2011, 12:56:14 PM
Hi,

I need 2 or 3 - best in 1:48.

Ciao

Elmar

http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: DoomOnYou72 on 25 June 2011, 09:07:18 PM
2 or 3 for me as well if in 1/48.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Capt. E.W. Brimmage on 28 June 2011, 06:26:11 AM
I was kind of gunning for 1:56 myself.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 29 June 2011, 12:44:12 PM
I think something in both scales can be arranged.  :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: SBMiniaturesGuy on 29 June 2011, 07:56:57 PM
3D renders are in process!!
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Blackwolf on 30 June 2011, 11:05:32 AM
Same here.
1/48 please.
Thanks

Amalric

 And I ;)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 30 June 2011, 03:33:36 PM
I think something in both scales can be arranged.  :)

Excellent!
Thanks for the news!

3D renders are in process!!

I look forward to seeing them!
Thanks for the update.
Amalric
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 30 June 2011, 10:42:59 PM
Ok,OK for the manufacturer identifiable challenged who is making this and in what scale? I see Company B,JFTM, and SB MiniaturesGuy so who is who?
I need a half dozen of these for my poor German PG in 1/48 or 1/50 hell 1/56 would do I guess.
Also wasn't there another thread with a suggestion for another APC looked like a Panther with no turret?
Maybe I was dreaming o_o
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 01 July 2011, 01:02:16 AM
Ok,OK for the manufacturer identifiable challenged who is making this and in what scale? I see Company B,JFTM, and SB MiniaturesGuy so who is who?

We're doing this as a Co.B and JTFM cooperative venture.

Quote
I need a half dozen of these for my poor German PG in 1/48 or 1/50 hell 1/56 would do I guess.

Both 1/48 and 1/56 scales will be available.

Quote
Also wasn't there another thread with a suggestion for another APC looked like a Panther with no turret?
Maybe I was dreaming o_o

This is that beast  :)

Jeff @ JTFM
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: SBMiniaturesGuy on 01 July 2011, 01:40:18 AM
Quote
We're doing this as a Co.B and JTFM cooperative venture.

Yes, I'm involved through the Company B side.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 01 July 2011, 02:16:24 AM
Cool beans guys.I have a couple of Jeff's German arty pieces and Co B's Itai 90mm gun truck so I'm sure I'll be happy with the quality of this APC too!
Thanks Pete
PS I thought this one was based off a 38t chasis..my bad.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 01 July 2011, 02:56:20 AM
This is my wish list

x4 Kitten APCs
x2 Kitten 81mm Mortar Carriers
x2 Kitten with 20mm "Schwebenlafette" Type
x1 Kitten Ambulance
x1 Kitten IR Spotlight
x2 Kitten Pioneer
x1 Kitten Command/Radio

That should do me just fine.  IR Upgrades for the LMG and drivers position and internal and external stowage would be a bonus but, I'm not greedy.

Can't wait to see a couple Leopard light tanks to replace those outdated SdKfz 234 series of armored cars as recon.

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/kampfgruppecottrell/WWII/82460.jpg)

My dog-faced GIs could use a another non-produced vehicle in 1/48, the M39 AUV.  That would be another unique market dominator in the scale and just a cool little APC for the Allies.

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/kampfgruppecottrell/WWII/M39.jpg)

I'm getting greedy but if you build them they will come,
Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 01 July 2011, 04:02:53 AM
I've been wanted to do the M39, seeing as we already have the Hellcat.  So the master model is 80% done ;-)  It would be 1/56 though since that is what we have for the tracks and other parts already.  I could possibly be motivated to do the M39, The Hellcat, and the 90mm Super hellcat in 1/48 as well.  If the Katzchen finds an audience, then that would probably be enough incentive.


For the M39, a minor issue is something for it to tow.  But the fact that we also have the M8 Priest sort of solves that problem as well...  Anyone need 105mm US Arty?

Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 01 July 2011, 10:32:51 AM
The M39 was used for just about everything during Korea so I could easily see it used as an APC similar to the Kangaroo in straight late WWII, Korea and most defiantly in Weird WWII.  I am actually surprised that the Kangaroo isn't used by more Allied players with the hull of a Ram, Sherman or whatever they are using it from since it beats the armor on any 1/2 track or fully tracked APC the Allies deployed in WWII.  And with the Canadian's modified mg turret on their models it looks sweet to boot!

Let loose the Panzer porn!
Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Blackwolf on 01 July 2011, 10:56:00 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D I want them all.......
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 01 July 2011, 11:41:36 PM
.... APC looked like a Panther with no turret?....

We're doing this as a Co.B and JTFM cooperative venture....

Just to clarify, is this the Katzchen APC being made?
I really hope so...

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6395/katzchenmockup.jpg)
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/408/katzchenback.jpg)
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9976/katzchenside.jpg)
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7782/katzchen5.jpg)
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7490/katzchen6.jpg)
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2743/katzchen02tp1.jpg)
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2662/katzchen03ud7.jpg)

Thanks
Amalric
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 02 July 2011, 12:23:05 AM
I have tracks to do both suspensions, 38T and panther.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 02 July 2011, 01:16:43 AM
Ahh now I see then.I was looking at the 2nd post in this thread and there is a link in it to ANOTHER thread that has a picture of a 20mm Katzchen and it looked too small to be based on a panther(to me anyway).
So there are two of them .
Pete
And that US APC is WAYY cool too!
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 29 November 2011, 06:39:47 AM
Just in case any potential manufacturer is wondering, I'm still in the market for some of these bad boys!  ;D
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 29 November 2011, 06:56:42 AM
Masters already done.  Casting to begin in Dec.

Here it is next to a JTFM Halftrack.  Joint JTFM and CompanyB model.

Company B
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/IMG_6028-1.JPG)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 29 November 2011, 09:29:42 AM
BRILLIANT!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Aldramelech on 29 November 2011, 10:03:44 AM
Oooooo I want one!  :o
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Skrapwelder on 29 November 2011, 02:04:49 PM
Very nice. Looking forward to getting several.

So maybe you could do a corresponding M39 for the Americans?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: SBMiniaturesGuy on 29 November 2011, 07:58:22 PM
Great idea, we'll look into that!!
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Cypher226 on 30 November 2011, 12:36:59 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 03 December 2011, 05:54:36 PM
Very very nice
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 03 December 2011, 06:24:58 PM
I'm hoping to have the master within the next couple of weeks. Then I can start casting the beast.  :)

Jeff @ JTFM / Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 08 December 2011, 05:37:30 PM
Jeff
How many pieces are in this?

Is it 1/48 or 1/56?

Thank you
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 08 December 2011, 05:50:37 PM
I don't have the master yet so, pieces just by what I know, are the hull, 2 tracks, and 2 or 3 of the IR pieces.....

I'll be incorporating what I can, like everything I cast, to cut down on assembly.

The current master is 1/56 scale to fit in with what we already produce but it can be scaled up to a 1/48 scale master which I think is already in the printing phase. Brent would know more about that.

Cheers,

Jeff
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 08 December 2011, 06:54:17 PM
You got 10 guaranteed sales in the 1/48 from me.  Any chance you might do some conversion for it like the 251?  Maybe a 20mm cannon (251/17 or late war 251/10), assault bridges (251/7) or 37mm at gun (251/10)?  You could pretty much mimic the 251s upgrades to the Kitten.  Could even add a Wave Cannon, Tesla Gun, X7 Launcher or just about any WWWII weapon platform you can think of.

Look forward to the 1/48,
Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Aldramelech on 08 December 2011, 08:36:08 PM
Yep, a scout version with a 20mm turret would be great.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 08 December 2011, 09:24:42 PM
It's not a problem to do it in 1/48.

The question though is as a full kit, or as a conversion for the Tamiya Hetzer.  We'll need to invest more time in recreating the tracks and suspension for a full 1/48 kit.

I'll take a look tonight at the size.  I have quite a few 1/48 Hetzers built up.


-Brent

Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 08 December 2011, 09:55:18 PM
Either way would be a hit.  Don't know of ANYONE doing the Kitten or even a conversion for it in 1/48.  You would corner both the wargaming and modeling market on it out of the shoot.  I think it would be a crowd pleaser for all lovers of paper panzers and WWWII.

Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 08 December 2011, 10:11:38 PM
You got 10 guaranteed sales in the 1/48 from me.  Any chance you might do some conversion for it like the 251?  Maybe a 20mm cannon (251/17 or late war 251/10), assault bridges (251/7) or 37mm at gun (251/10)?  You could pretty much mimic the 251s upgrades to the Kitten.  Could even add a Wave Cannon, Tesla Gun, X7 Launcher or just about any WWWII weapon platform you can think of.

Look forward to the 1/48,
Brian

I own the Tony Ashcroft 1/48 scale 251/D master so you just might see that in the New Year if I can pursuade Brent to get the 1/48 scale Katzchen master printed.  ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Aldramelech on 09 December 2011, 03:27:10 PM
It's not a problem to do it in 1/48.

The question though is as a full kit, or as a conversion for the Tamiya Hetzer.  We'll need to invest more time in recreating the tracks and suspension for a full 1/48 kit.

I'll take a look tonight at the size.  I have quite a few 1/48 Hetzers built up.


-Brent

Either or, I'm interested.

Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 10 December 2011, 10:34:48 AM
Brent and I can figure something out for the 1/48 scale track. :)

2012 will be quite the year for WWWII tuff I'm thinking.

Jeff @ JTFM/Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 10 December 2011, 06:10:11 PM
I'm printing out a 1/48 version of the kit, as well as 1/48 versions of the UHU and Flake as well...

-Brent

Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 10 December 2011, 07:31:01 PM
Another instant sale across the board would be a German IR vehicle conversion set.  I am not aware of anyone making the vehicle spotlights, scopes, LMG combo or the cupola mounted combination in 1/48 anywhere.  You put out a resin pack of that stuff and everyone and their brother will have IR for their Germans, pissing off the historical realists. :D  This will also give the modelers their long sought after conversion for their 1/48 stuff as well.  Then you could do up some 60s NATO spotlights to counter it and then night wargaming will have a whole new aspect of play.  Then the E75s, E100s and M39s show up and you retire millionaires off your line and WWWII get bigger and bigger.

What a game plan huh? :D
Brian

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/weirdwwii/Web%20Site%20Use/251ir.jpg)

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/weirdwwii/Web%20Site%20Use/pantherir-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: B.E.A.R on 20 December 2011, 01:19:59 PM
Yep, a scout version with a 20mm turret would be great.
I agree in 1/56th.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 21 December 2011, 02:57:10 AM
1/48 versions of our UHU and Falke IR sight are also being printed.

For the turret, I've turned up some images of it mounted the plan of record Lynx turret (Puma).  Any other images of this?  pretty straight forward, as JTFM already has that model.

A 1/48 version would not be too hard.

-Brent
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 21 December 2011, 08:48:36 PM
Not a problem to modify this.

Quote
For the turret, I've turned up some images of it mounted the plan of record Lynx turret (Puma).  Any other images of this?  pretty straight forward, as JTFM already has that model.

All the fixin's are in the kitchen.  :)

Also anyone up for a VK1602 Leopard recce tank  :)? 

The master is in progress. :D

Now back to my unwinding time.  :o lol :)

Cheers and Merry Christmas !!

Jeff @ JTFM
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Aldramelech on 21 December 2011, 10:52:24 PM
Yep, wouldn't say no to that either.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Predatorpt on 03 June 2012, 03:00:10 PM
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but is there any news on the Kätzchen?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 03 June 2012, 04:06:28 PM
Working on it and some variants.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Predatorpt on 03 June 2012, 04:35:22 PM
Working on it and some variants.

Glad to know it, thanks for the update  ;)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 04 June 2012, 04:54:22 AM
Fantastic! I need about four in 1/48th scale.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 04 June 2012, 07:31:40 AM
Ah, you mean this?
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/katchzen.JPG)

I never took photos of the 1/48 master print.  So you'll need to make do with this 1/56 painted printup until Jeff has them ready.

Brent
Company B
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 04 June 2012, 10:50:13 PM
 ;D Drool! Drool!
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 14 June 2012, 12:00:47 AM
My panzergrenadier are getting blisters!  Any news on them 1/48 Kitties yet?

Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 20 June 2012, 05:46:38 AM
40th birthday coming up soon - all the excuse I need to lash out with some birthday money and buy me a few platoons worth!
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 14 July 2012, 04:44:02 PM
Working on basic APC model, and 3 vaiants :)

Cheers,

Jeff @ JTFM/Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Predatorpt on 16 July 2012, 04:56:04 PM
Working on basic APC model, and 3 vaiants :)

Cheers,

Jeff @ JTFM/Die Waffenkammer

Can you give us some details on those variants? ;)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 16 July 2012, 05:15:35 PM
Can you give us some details on those variants? ;)

Something with a turret and something open topped.  :D
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 02 October 2012, 09:34:24 PM
My panzergrenadier are getting blisters!  Any news on them 1/48 Kitties yet?

Brian

Any news on this?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Elladan on 02 October 2012, 10:02:19 PM
Hi,
I second this. It isn't easy to be patient with all the nice DUST miniatures waiting for worthy transport.

Ciao


Elmar
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 03 October 2012, 03:32:49 AM
 I hope all 4 variants will be available in 1/48th scale. I REALLY am looking forward to adding these to my WWWII German Forces (SOTR, DUST). Can't wait to pick some up.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 05 October 2012, 12:05:16 PM
I am working on them all. Just slow ATM as I have loads of casting to get done.

Cheers,

Jeff @ JTFM Enterprises / Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 05 October 2012, 04:12:29 PM
Jeff,
Thank you for the update.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Ballardian on 05 October 2012, 05:54:31 PM
Yes, thanks for the update, eagerly await the results.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 05 October 2012, 10:44:32 PM
If there is anything else in our lineup that would be on a 1/48 want list, I'm listening.

Quite a few models are getting reworked using the 3D prototyping route for future updates.

Brent
Company B
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 05 October 2012, 10:59:16 PM
Everything!
Ah well then....
The Semovente 90/53.
I was really going to get a couple in 1/56 but when I saw them I knew they would look mental with all my 1/48 stuff.
And chaffees and oh oh those awesome multipart Stuarts you guys have been doing
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 06 October 2012, 06:10:02 AM
I can think of a couple of items off the top of my head that I would love in 1/48th scale. Some of the German "paper panzers" would be great, like an E-25, an E-50, or a Pz-VII Lowe. A Waffentrager w/ pak 43. A Humber "pig" APC. A BRDM-1 scout car. A BTR-40. A M41 Walker Bulldog (of course you would also "HAVE" to do a M42 Duster) ;) A Centurian Mk III. A MRAP would be awesome, too!
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 06 October 2012, 06:20:27 AM
My bad! I was running off my wishlist.  :?  From your current line, I would like to see the Katzchen, BTR-40, BTR-152, WC-51, M24, and HoNi SPG in 1/48th.  ;D
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Galland on 12 October 2012, 09:26:50 PM
I would love a Kätzchen in 1/48, it would be really nice to have.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC and more in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 13 October 2012, 02:40:56 AM
It's quite possible for me to have these cast in 1/48 if demand is high enough.  Maybe a kickstarter or something similar.  It would be nice to know the sales are actually there! I guess my other option is a shapeways shop.  But the digital prints go through a intensive scratch-build and detailing by hand as well.  so you'd miss out compared to the 1/56 models if its just a straight print.

Current finished masters that can be printed in 1:48
M3A3
BTR-152
BTR-40
BTR-50
Wiesel
Mercedes LIV
Mercedes G Wagon
Toyota Land Cruiser
1938 VW
Type 1 halftrack
M11/41

Upcoming 1/56 digital models in progress that could be offered as well:
M5A1 (rework similar multipart as the M3A3)
Chi-Ha (rework for command, Shinhoto and HoNi as well)
E-25
M41
Toyota Hilux with dual camper back options

Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 13 October 2012, 05:10:48 AM
I'd be all in for a "kickstater". I would purchase 3 to 4 of the Katzchen apc, and be interested in quite a few of the other possible 1/48th scale models too. Heck, I'd settle for a decent Katzchen conversion for the Tamiya Hetzer in 1/48th at this point! My Dust and SOTR grenadiers await!  :D
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 14 October 2012, 07:07:57 PM
What I would love to see in addition to the 1/48 Katzchen would be a stummle Katzchen varient in 1/48, either as an add-on kit or a stand alone model.

See these pics below from Agis' excellent 15mm posts.

(http://www.adpublishing.de/assets/images/SdKfz251-8_Stummel_Katzchen.jpg)
SdKfz 255/8 Stummel Kätzchen by Forged in Battle with PSC parts
from post http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=44071.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=44071.0)

painted here http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=44321.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=44321.0)
The first Kaetzchen variant gets painted!
(http://www.adpublishing.de/SdKfz251-8_Stummel_Katzchen_painted.jpg)
SdKfz 255/8 Stummel Kaetzchen by Forged in Battle with PSC parts and Soldier

Thanks
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 15 October 2012, 03:59:44 AM
I'd be up for 8 or so but gotta see the kit before throwing down the cash.

Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 05 December 2012, 02:09:57 PM
1/56 scale Kätzchen moulds are completed test pulls being done. Then it's on to the 1/48 scale version. :)

Cheers,

Jeff @ JTFM Enterprises / Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 05 December 2012, 07:07:48 PM
Awesome news gentlemen! Awesome news! I'll have to do some overtime to save for these.  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 05 December 2012, 11:38:07 PM
I will have 7 variants for this one in 1/56 scale. :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 06 December 2012, 01:08:09 AM
Are you planning on multiple variants in 1/48th scale, or just the basic APC?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 06 December 2012, 11:51:14 AM
There will be variants for the 1/48 scale version as well  :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 06 December 2012, 12:07:33 PM
I'd love to see a 1/48 "Stumpy" version too and also an Owl, Falcon, Suspended Mount 20mm, Pioneer and Command version.

Look forward to seeing what ya came up with,
Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 06 December 2012, 05:39:00 PM
That's great! I'm soooo waiting for these to be released. Looking forward to getting my hands on some. Hopefullly, one variant will be a mortar carrier.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 07 December 2012, 12:36:23 PM
I will try to make as many variants as the SdKfz.251 had  ;).
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Grimmnar on 08 December 2012, 06:11:04 AM
I'd love to see a 1/48 "Stumpy" version too and also an Owl, Falcon, Suspended Mount 20mm, Pioneer and Command version.

Brian
Huh?
I am missing the point. I assume something that has to do with the SdKfz.251 variants. :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 08 December 2012, 06:36:47 AM
Let me see if I can translate.  ;)  I think "stumpy" refers to the 7.5cm stummel support variant.  The Owl I believe is the UHU infra-red search light carrier. Falcon I don't recognize, but my best guess is the night vision equipped apc that partners with the "UHU". The supended 20mm mount is the turret used for the 250/9 neu recce haltrack, 38T recce tank, and the 234/1 armored car. Unlike the turret on the 222 armored car, it did not need a pedestal mount, as the weapon was suspended from the turret itself. The pioneer variant would be like the 251/7 with assault bridges and engineer equipment. The command variant would probably be similar to a 251/3 equipped with extra radios, or maybe a 251/10 platoon leaders vehicle with a Pak 3.7cm cannon.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 08 December 2012, 06:44:12 AM
Hi. My name is FATROC and I'm a treadhead.....    lol
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 08 December 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Around of applause to FATROC from a fellow treadhead!

Brian

PS
Would also love to see a Kitten armed with the X7 ATGM!  Since its new tech and not quite Sagger size, the Kitten would make a fantastic platform for this new weapon of war.  After all the Little Red Riding Hood just sounds like it needs to be mounted on a Kitten anyway.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 09 December 2012, 02:28:38 AM
I'm still in for some in 1/48.Especially the short 75mm variant X2.
20mm turreted would work also and I could maybe use those extra Puma turrets I have(left over from the Sdkfz 233 conversion kits) to convert a couple more.Not sure if that was ever planned but its Weird War afterall.So thats 3 more...so lets get cracking lol
How about one with a open topped PAK 40? I have these for the Sdkfz 251 and Puma from QuarterKit.I guess I could just get more conversion kits from them to do it.So thers another.
Man this is going to get exspensive.
Pete
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: aydenrobert on 01 January 2013, 01:40:58 AM
I would love to order at least 4 1/48 Kia as well.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 01 January 2013, 07:59:22 PM
These are going to make a great addition to WWWII gaming! They'll look awesome next to my E-100.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 10 March 2013, 05:02:40 PM
Any word on these?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 10 March 2013, 07:29:04 PM
Working on them while wading through a mountain of casting.....
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 11 March 2013, 03:34:56 AM
Thank you for the update.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: former user on 11 March 2013, 06:32:22 AM
has anyone thought about this vehicle to use, since it's an alternate timeline anyway and it belongs to the family?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pbv_301
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Pansarbandvagn_301.JPG)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 11 March 2013, 04:37:29 PM
Never seen that before. Pretty awesome. Should be an easy conversion.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 11 March 2013, 05:09:20 PM
There will be plenty of neat Katzchen variants released all in one shot.  ;)

Jeff @ JTFM Enterprises / Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: former user on 11 March 2013, 07:41:48 PM
(http://www.plasticwarfare.se/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/DSC1101-600x400.jpg)

there must be someone who makes these in 1/48 in Sweden
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 11 May 2013, 09:56:55 PM
There will be plenty of neat Katzchen variants released all in one shot.  ;)

Jeff @ JTFM Enterprises / Die Waffenkammer



in 2013 presumably?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 12 May 2013, 11:44:36 AM

in 2013 presumably?

Yes.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 12 May 2013, 02:07:57 PM
Are you starting with 1/48 or 1/56?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 12 May 2013, 02:23:10 PM
1/56 then the 1/48.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 12 May 2013, 06:30:23 PM
Looking forward to the release of the 1/48 version. I'm going to need quite a few!  lol
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 22 June 2013, 03:32:32 PM
Pictures of 1/56 scale Katzchen coming Monday. Master almost complete. This model will kick off JTFM Enterprises/Die Waffenkammer's "AFTER 45" range.

Jeff @JTFM/Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 22 June 2013, 05:51:12 PM
Doing "HAPPY DANCE"!!!   lol
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 22 June 2013, 06:22:32 PM
Pictures going up now in a new topic.  :D

Here's a taste.

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/954602_479250095494411_211238093_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1044524_479250145494406_1247224756_n.jpg)

Jeff @ JTFM/Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Elladan on 23 June 2013, 09:06:56 AM
That's very good news - and good looking so far.

I hope there will be some more detailing on the upside of the tracks.

Ciao

Elmar

http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 23 June 2013, 12:59:53 PM
A few more details left to add.  :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 23 June 2013, 03:08:13 PM
looks fantastic!   :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 23 June 2013, 07:25:53 PM
Just the tracks left to finish detailing now.

Added a few more exterior bits. Tools, antenna mount, tow cable, driver's falke spot light.

Interior bits. Radio, radio operator's seat, interior door detail.

Into a mould with it by the end of the week.  :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Elladan on 24 June 2013, 07:43:17 AM
Hi Jeff,

that is very good news.

Elmar
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 27 June 2013, 02:58:25 PM
Once this is in prodcution the first 2 variants I'll be making available will be usable as Recce or IFV type vehicles.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 27 June 2013, 05:17:33 PM
Will you also be offering variants in 1/48 eventually?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 27 June 2013, 05:45:49 PM
it depends on if they are wanted.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Elladan on 27 June 2013, 06:08:06 PM
Hi Jeff,

for me the scale of choice for WWW II is 1:48. I will use the Kätzchen with the DUST stuff wich is done in 1:48 too. I believe there are many others out there with the same idea.

So please do them in 1:48 too, if the demand /response is big enough.

Ciao

Elmar


PS: I would buy 3 at least
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 27 June 2013, 06:29:50 PM
I use 1/48 and 1/50 scale vehicles for SOTR49 and DUST. I know it's all personal preference, but they just seem to work better with the "heroic" minis. I would like at least three of the apc version, and at least one of any other variants (depending on type). At this point, I'd settle for a conversion kit for a 1/48 hetzer!!   o_o
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 27 June 2013, 07:20:41 PM
All I have left to do for the 1/48 scale version is to master the tracks. I might just release the 1/48 scale SdKfz.251/D I purchased the master for, from Tony Ashcroft, at the same time.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 27 June 2013, 09:49:41 PM
I'm still in for a couple in 1/48 and a stummel version at the very least.Probably more if there is a turreted version with a 20mm.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 28 June 2013, 05:33:41 PM
There will be 2 turreted versions.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: CompanyB on 28 June 2013, 05:57:37 PM
I use 1/48 and 1/50 scale vehicles for SOTR49 and DUST. I know it's all personal preference, but they just seem to work better with the "heroic" minis. I would like at least three of the apc version, and at least one of any other variants (depending on type). At this point, I'd settle for a conversion kit for a 1/48 hetzer!!   o_o

Interesting idea.  I didn't check if the master fit existing 1/48 Hetzer and 38T tracks, but I bet it would.  Something to think about Jeff, if all you need to do is release the hull.  I think I also have some 1/48 masters for an MG-42, German jerry cans, and assorted parts here somewhere.

A big issue though is that Tamiya is winding down their 1/48 line.  Is the Hetzer still available or is it retired?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 30 June 2013, 12:14:48 PM
Master complete and ready for moulds.

I am starting to take preorders. The model will be $30.00 CAD or under. Contact me at info@diewaffenkammer.com for more info.

(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1002749_482814208471333_955003069_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1016058_482814178471336_863079381_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/992787_482814145138006_149372125_n.jpg)

Cheers !
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 30 June 2013, 06:48:27 PM
Are pre-orders available in both scales, or are you just starting with 1/56? Looks awesome by the way.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 30 June 2013, 07:22:30 PM
Currently only in 1/56 scale.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 11 July 2013, 11:57:26 AM
The Katzchen is going into moulds this weekend. I'm taking pre-orders.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 28 August 2013, 06:13:46 PM
Any word on these? Could we get an update?
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 29 August 2013, 03:05:16 PM
There will be something to show next week. I've been bogged down with casting and mould replacement...

There will be the APC and at least mock ups of 2 turreted variants.

Cheers,

Jeff
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 29 August 2013, 05:19:16 PM
Thanks for the info! I am really looking forward to these.  ;D
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 17 September 2013, 08:35:24 AM
Any news on the 1/48 model?

Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 03 October 2013, 07:48:07 AM
Bump. What Brian said.  :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: fitterpete on 04 October 2013, 10:38:19 PM
I gave up on this in July.Even if they do come out not sure I'm going to get any.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 05 October 2013, 01:41:05 AM
I'm working as fast as I can with the time I have. This is not my only project, plus I have loads of casting orders to fill...

Sorry,

Jeff @ JTFM Enterprises/Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 05 October 2013, 06:04:25 AM
I don't mind waiting for the typical quality of your models.  :P  I'm looking forward to the 1/48 kits to field in my SoTR platoons.  :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Elladan on 05 October 2013, 08:52:18 AM
Me too ...

Take the time needed to build and produce the models in the high quality we love. At least 3 Kätzchen in 1:48 will go to Germany then.

Ciao

Elmar

http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Ballardian on 05 October 2013, 04:22:06 PM
Ditto (Elladan), certainly 3+ required here (though 1/56 for me).
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 30 May 2015, 05:34:19 PM
Sorry for the threadomancy, but are there any updates on this?

I asked Company B how their prototype was going (which they put WIP pics of in 2011) but sadly they said that its been pushed well down their priority list... :'(
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 31 May 2015, 03:04:12 AM
It's kind of sad. With Dust, and now the SOTR II kickstarter, I'm sure there would be a market.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 16 July 2015, 05:39:27 PM
I'm still in for at least 4 of these bad boys with several as mortar carriers, IR Spotlight and AA versions.

The mouth still waters,
Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 16 July 2015, 05:52:08 PM
Ditto!

It would be neat to have some of the Hanomag armament options available too, like the 75mm gun on the Stumble
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: jtrnka on 16 July 2015, 11:48:49 PM
All kinds of Kätzchen are on the way I've just been very very busy with other projects and casting.

Jeff @JTFM Enterprises / Die Waffenkammer
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 16 July 2015, 11:57:00 PM
All kinds of Kätzchen are on the way I've just been very very bust with other projects and casting.

Jeff @JTFM Enterprises / Die Waffenkammer

Your stuff is well worth waiting for Jeff! 
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Amalric on 17 July 2015, 02:35:44 AM
All kinds of Kätzchen are on the way I've just been very very busy with other projects and casting.

Jeff @JTFM Enterprises / Die Waffenkammer

Oh Happy Happy Day!
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 18 July 2015, 08:42:43 PM
All kinds of Kätzchen are on the way I've just been very very busy with other projects and casting.

Jeff @JTFM Enterprises / Die Waffenkammer


That is fantastic news! (Hope the being busy means your business is doing well.) Been waiting for these. I hope you are still planning on offering them in 1/48 scale. Need four basic and one each of whatever other versions you release!  :D
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Tas on 04 July 2016, 01:54:41 PM
Time for my annual threadomancy on this topic and ask, hopefully, if this product line might see the light of day soon?  Please? Pretty please?  :D

This thread has had 40,000 views so there must be some interest  8)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 11 July 2016, 10:03:49 PM
Agreed!  My panzergrenadiers are either walking, bein trucked in or stealing the air assault FJ's Dragons.  I need me some kick ass 1/48 kittens!

Brian
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Ballardian on 13 July 2016, 04:20:39 PM
Yup, still waiting with open wallet, people are starting to give me funny looks...(should probably be indoors.)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: FATROC on 18 July 2016, 01:27:21 AM
If they every make one in 1/48 scale, I'll probably end up buying a dozen or more!   ;D
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Elladan on 09 August 2016, 05:16:50 PM
Come on, Jeff. Please do us the favour to let us throw money at you ;)

Elmar
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Predatorpt on 09 August 2016, 06:51:00 PM
Yeah, now should be a great time to launch the Kätzchen, with Konflikt '47 doing the rounds. WW2 still going around in 1947 would be a great motive to have some "Paper Panzers" in our forces.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Wyrmalla on 10 August 2016, 12:05:26 AM
I'll maybe post my German forces here at the end of the week maybe once I've had some more painted, but to awkwardly slide myself into this thread (...my hope peaks every time I see a new post here for an eventual release  :'(), I've a Rubicon Hetzer I'll start converting into a Kätzchen once its hopefully delivered tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Ballardian on 10 August 2016, 11:04:06 AM
Wyrmalla - take lots of pics of the build, I would love to see how you do it.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Wyrmalla on 11 August 2016, 03:01:52 AM
Again, not to thread jack, but here's my own Kätzchen made from a Rubicon Hetzer, sitting about 90% done bar some details and general tidying (I'm out of greenstuff, so some of the bits are really chunky looking because I'm stuck with milliput unfortunately).

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/8/11/819498_md-WIP%20K%26Atilde%3B%26curren%3Btzchen%20APC.JPG)

I'll post it painted in my own thread. This is the rough one, another will turn up eventually, but working off of established measurements instead of trial and error (i.e. all that gap filling).

Oh, and the good thing about that Rubicon kit? You get two sets of tracks, so you can scratch build the lower and upper hulls and have two APCs (or an APC and a Hetzer) out of one box. :)

Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Predatorpt on 11 August 2016, 03:06:07 AM
Nice start, way better than anything I could ever do! Can't wait to see your Weird War thread.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Ballardian on 11 August 2016, 05:53:17 PM
Looks good, look forward to the thread.
Title: Re: Kätzchen APC in 28mm?
Post by: Weird WWII on 18 April 2017, 08:36:02 AM
So, any news on the 1/48 version of this?  Been patiently waiting for like years with the possibility of such a product. 

Would love a definite yes or no on the project. 

If no, I might just be on the lookout for a crowdfunder for this thing in 1/48.

Wonder if anyone would be in for such a project?