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Title: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Geckilian on February 07, 2011, 12:16:38 AM
Hello all,

My current project centres on representing the d&d party I'm in. The figures are found, and largely done, and the horse and cart is found, and also largely done. However for the travelling home I'm looking for a decently sized Romani/ov wagon, similar to the following -

(http://www.bruceongames.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/gypsy-caravan.jpg)

I'm aware of the Old Glory/West Wind one in the different style, but it's far too small in scale terms for someone to really live in it. Does anyone have any good suggestions?
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Burgundavia on February 07, 2011, 04:29:17 AM
The basics of the wagon and horses are pretty much the same (save possible tack differences that you can explain away in a fantasy setting), so I would buy a basic wagon from somewhere and scratchbuild the upper part.
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: bandit86 on February 07, 2011, 06:14:03 AM
Found this with Google. Google is your friend ;D
http://www.g-m-e.com/laserkit.html
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Christian on February 07, 2011, 07:39:19 AM
O Scale is the one you'd want for 28mm... that's a nice find there, bandit!
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Sangennaru on February 07, 2011, 07:47:00 AM
Found this with Google. Google is your friend ;D
http://www.g-m-e.com/laserkit.html


EXTREMELY expensive, but really really well done!
yeah, google is the friend of everyone!
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Hammers on February 07, 2011, 08:49:58 AM
There is a British O scale train company which makes a very pretty vardo. Can't remeber the name of it...
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Poiter50 on February 07, 2011, 08:56:38 AM
GH00048 - Gypsy Caravan [GH00048] in the West Wind ranges for Vampire Wars?
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Geckilian on February 07, 2011, 01:04:40 PM
Cheers for the suggestions everyone! I'm already aware of the Old Glory/West Wind one Poiter50, but it's an option to fall back on, though the lasercut kits seem to actually be less expensive. So far it does seem that getting a wagon base and scratchbuilding the upper part is the way to go.
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Hammers on February 07, 2011, 01:09:12 PM
I scratched built this one:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/r02/27_Hammers_VBCW_Welsh_Gypsy_Ladies.jpg)

..and started on a round topped one but never finished it.
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Geckilian on February 07, 2011, 01:28:45 PM
Nice painting there! Have you any pictures of how far you got with the round top?
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Hammers on February 07, 2011, 01:31:39 PM
Nice painting there! Have you any pictures of how far you got with the round top?

Sorry, no. :)
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: argsilverson on February 07, 2011, 02:17:05 PM
sort of WIP here:
http://www.backofbeyond.de/gallery_guests_michael_immig_china_service.html
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Geckilian on February 07, 2011, 02:24:26 PM
Very nice argsilverson, I can see that approach working for me on a slightly larger scale. Where did you get those wheels, and if they were separate, does the seller do a slightly smaller pair also?
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Bako on February 08, 2011, 01:13:14 AM
Fancy that. There's a prominent Gypsy group in my group's current D&D campaign. lol

Alas, we don't really use a lot of physical models, so never looked into it myself.
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: argsilverson on February 08, 2011, 01:22:45 PM
Very nice argsilverson, I can see that approach working for me on a slightly larger scale. Where did you get those wheels, and if they were separate, does the seller do a slightly smaller pair also?

Sorry, is not mine and I caanot help you more. I remember that somewhere there was some more details.
Anuhow, the model is done by Michael Immig and  more about him:
http://www.ths-wargames.de/profile.html
http://www.mini-universe.de/

Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Admiral Benbow on February 08, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
Sorry, is not mine and I caanot help you more. I remember that somewhere there was some more details.
Anuhow, the model is done by Michael Immig and  more about him:
http://www.ths-wargames.de/profile.html
http://www.mini-universe.de/

OK, Folks, if I can be of any help, just ask ...  :D

I did the wheels for Metal Magic a loooong time ago, they are no longer available.

The cart is scratchbuild and the roof is just a copper wire frame covered with printed paper, fixed with some thinned white glue. Really easy.
 :)
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Ettrick on February 08, 2011, 11:49:44 PM
I found dimensions which measure (in real life) 11 feet long, 8 feet tall and 7 feet wide for the cabin part.  I imagine with the wheels it would be taller.  How would that convert to 28mm dimensions?
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Wirelizard on February 09, 2011, 12:37:03 AM
I found dimensions which measure (in real life) 11 feet long, 8 feet tall and 7 feet wide for the cabin part.  I imagine with the wheels it would be taller.  How would that convert to 28mm dimensions?

Assuming 1/56th scale or thereabouts, about 2 1/3 inches long, 1 3/4 inches tall and 1 1/2 inches wide.

((<distance in feet> x <12 to get us inches>) divided by <56 to get us scale sizes in (real) inches>)
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Ettrick on February 09, 2011, 12:42:20 AM
 :? That's wee.  Cheers, Wirelizard.

If I were building my own I think I'd want it a bit bigger.  What do you think of 3 inches by 2 inches by 2 inches?  Is that too big, Geckilian?
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Burgundavia on February 09, 2011, 07:56:36 AM
:? That's wee.  Cheers, Wirelizard.

If I were building my own I think I'd want it a bit bigger.  What do you think of 3 inches by 2 inches by 2 inches?  Is that too big, Geckilian?

Generally I would steer towards smaller vehicles, largely because all game table space is precious.

However, if you really want large, a fantasy setting can explain away the overly large vehicle.
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Ettrick on February 09, 2011, 01:43:42 PM
After posting the above, I threw together a mock-up and that was too big, clearly too big.
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Geckilian on February 10, 2011, 12:57:15 AM
Considering it'll be used as essentially a mobile house, 3" by 2" by 2" looks quite alright when I mocked it up. I think I'll put it together bearing that in mind, cheers.
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Ettrick on February 10, 2011, 01:46:39 AM
My thought was that as the traveling folk use the caravans to carry possessions from place to place but do cooking and living in the out-of-doors when they've stopped, I didn't think it would need to be as large as a modern caravan.

Whatever size it ends up, we expect to see your photos soon.
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: carlos marighela on February 10, 2011, 06:28:40 AM
Don't Westwind make a 28mm Gypsy Caravan in white metal?
Title: Re: Looking for a 28mm Gypsy Wagon
Post by: Hammers on February 10, 2011, 09:05:22 AM
Don't Westwind make a 28mm Gypsy Caravan in white metal?

You are the third or fourth person pointing this out and Geckilian already stated he was aware of it in his first post.  lol