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Title: Scratchbuilt truck (now finished and available)
Post by: Zafarelli on March 22, 2011, 07:32:07 AM: I finally managed to complete a project started in 2008 - started out as an artillery tractor from WW2, then got sidetracked, put it aside, dug it up again, noticed oddities in scale and detail, put it away again and finally finished it after showing it at Tactica, and getting quite a few questions about it.

The model is 1:48 rather than 1:56, so it probably looks a bit out of scale next to 28 mm miniatures. It is cast in 7 pieces, wheels, body, undercarriage and bumper, and will be released as soon as I've finished painting it.

I'll use it for my post-apoc gang to drive around in (I'm not historically minded enough to be irritated by the fact that it's WW2 ;) ), but I think it could be equally at home in any BoB scenario (or probably even WW2...)

(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster1.jpg)

(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster2.jpg)

(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster3.jpg)

(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster4.jpg)

C&C welcome. Oh, and if anyone can come up with a more interesting name than "truck", that would be most welcome 8)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: elysium64 on March 22, 2011, 07:56:09 AM: :o
I'll be havin one :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Old Goat on March 22, 2011, 08:05:44 AM: Beautiful work, put me down for one too
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 22, 2011, 09:00:46 AM: Very nice, very british WW2 but also very timeless.

Price?
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on March 22, 2011, 09:09:40 AM: It's big, but not too big. Looks just the right sort of size for dealing with all that tough post-apoc terrain. It would be nice to see it with some home-made armour and gun-mounts etc welded onto it. I'm sure someone will do that very soon :D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Bobble on March 22, 2011, 09:11:24 AM: How about "Bulldog" its got that squat,powerful,menacing look about it and is bloomin' brilliant!
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Zafarelli on March 22, 2011, 05:05:58 PM: Thanks, guys!

Price is not yet settled, but I'll post a note as soon as it it will become available.

Quote from: Gluteus Maximus on March 22, 2011, 09:09:40 AM
It's big, but not too big. Looks just the right sort of size for dealing with all that tough post-apoc terrain. It would be nice to see it with some home-made armour and gun-mounts etc welded onto it. I'm sure someone will do that very soon :D
Yup. I'll intend to take part in this Mad Max Car Competition (http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.com/2011/01/mvs-mad-max-car-competition-2011.html) with it ;D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: matakishi on March 22, 2011, 06:46:09 PM: I've been waiting for this since I first saw your WIP photos. I'll be adding one to my Pardulon gang as soon as I can (well, after SALUTE actually).

Good work Jens, it looks great.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on March 22, 2011, 07:48:35 PM: lol

Jens, if there's any justice in this world, your mean machine will win!
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Grimmnar on March 22, 2011, 10:28:01 PM: Quote from: Zafarelli on March 22, 2011, 07:32:07 AM
I'll use it for my post-apoc gang to drive around in (I'm not historically minded enough to be irritated by the fact that it's WW2 ;) )

Well two things to say.
First, A very well and detailed model indeed. Very crisp and clean. Congrats to you on this accomplishment.
Second, easy way around the above issue being a WW2 vehicle. Just start with the end of the world happened in the 50's. There, problem solved. :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: FramFramson on March 23, 2011, 02:28:27 AM: Quote from: Bobble on March 22, 2011, 09:11:24 AM
How about "Bulldog" its got that squat,powerful,menacing look about it and is bloomin' brilliant!

This is a name I can get behind. Terribly appropriate! :D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: zizi666 on March 23, 2011, 03:57:17 AM: Quote from: Grimmnar on March 22, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
Well two things to say.
First, A very well and detailed model indeed. Very crisp and clean. Congrats to you on this accomplishment.
Second, easy way around the above issue being a WW2 vehicle. Just start with the end of the world happened in the 50's. There, problem solved. :-)

1. true. a very fine model indeed
2. isn't that assault gun a tad too newfashioned for the fifties ?
:D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Mancha on March 23, 2011, 04:14:41 AM: I'd love to see some pics of your molds, if you're willing?
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Grimmnar on March 23, 2011, 04:38:47 AM: Quote from: zizi666 on March 23, 2011, 03:57:17 AM
2. isn't that assault gun a tad too newfashioned for the fifties ?
:D

:-)~
I was only looking at the vehicle. I didnt even notice the minis standing next to it.
Shush, dont tell no one :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Zafarelli on March 23, 2011, 07:19:44 AM: Bulldog sounds good, but whenever I hear it, I think of the famous tractor of the same name:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_Bulldog
Not exactly what I had in mind, but I'll probably settle for it anyway :)

Mancha, I'll take pictures tonight, but don't expect anything too spectacular. Simple dropcast molds for body and undercarriage, and two-part molds for wheels and bumper. Won't work without a vacuum, though.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: NurgleHH on March 23, 2011, 11:21:21 AM: Cool, but in two Version: Running and broken...
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Tobsen77 on March 23, 2011, 01:02:51 PM: The master looked great and this turned out pretty good! Seems to be ok scalewise, too!
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Doomsdave on March 23, 2011, 03:00:51 PM: It looks great. I would call it the "Razorback" if EE hadn't already used it. It looks like the feral pigs we have down south.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Zafarelli on March 23, 2011, 09:26:06 PM: Here is the promised picture of the molds (as already said, nothing too spectacular).

Body and undercarriage in pink silicon, tires and bumper in green:
(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster6.jpg)

I like Razorback. I also like Keiler (boar), but apparently, that's a German mine clearing vehicle. But then, which animal name isn't already taken?
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Oliver on March 23, 2011, 10:19:17 PM: Tapir?
(http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/nickmb/x5YuSMyQjwT2pnYvc88inGDIxT1ccOQ79Jf9QcOhIZvqZJq56DvWRnFIBNmn/tapir.jpg)

Sorry I don't know the german for these weird creatures :(
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Mancha on March 23, 2011, 10:36:53 PM: Quote from: Zafarelli on March 23, 2011, 09:26:06 PM
(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster6.jpg)

That's pretty cool. I've never really understood how one-part molds work for something with all those jutty angles. Is the mold the consistency of rubber, and you just sort of peel the mold off the item, like pulling a hand out of rubber gloves?
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Major Weenie on March 23, 2011, 11:43:49 PM: A name better than "Truck."

That vehicle looks vaguely familiar to the 'tractor' that came with the old Airfix 25 Pdr plastic model in 20mm. What was it called??? Was it a 'Bedford Tractor' ?

Regards,
MW
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: sgw74 on March 24, 2011, 12:01:14 AM: It would be a Quad tractor (or a 15 hundred CMP--Canadian Military Pattern). Airfix built a little 1/72 scale with a limber and 25pdr, Tamiya built a better one inthe 1970s in 1/35 scale. Thousands of these beauties were produced in 1940s, for just that purpose as well as mobile dentist offices, communications, cargo, and anything else they could throw on the back). Both GMC and Ford had their own slight variations and I believe this one is close to a Ford type. Just my 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: sgw74 on March 24, 2011, 12:04:10 AM: Ps. if it is not already linked to the WW2 forum, I would do that immediately. I'm sure you'd get more of us drooling over it!
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on March 24, 2011, 07:55:05 AM: Quote from: Zafarelli on March 23, 2011, 09:26:06 PM
Here is the promised picture of the molds (as already said, nothing too spectacular).

Body and undercarriage in pink silicon, tires and bumper in green:
(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster6.jpg)

I like Razorback. I also like Keiler (boar), but apparently, that's a German mine clearing vehicle. But then, which animal name isn't already taken?

Loos even better with some paint on!

As for the name - I wouldn't worry if it's been used already. Look at the current "Typhoon" jet fighter. The same name was used for a ground-attack plane in WWII and no-one seems to mind. Re-cycling is cool :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Tobsen77 on March 24, 2011, 08:16:50 AM: Quote from: Mancha on March 23, 2011, 10:36:53 PM

That's pretty cool. I've never really understood how one-part molds work for something with all those jutty angles. Is the mold the consistency of rubber, and you just sort of peel the mold off the item, like pulling a hand out of rubber gloves?

Exactly like that... and if you made it right no little rubber pieces stick in all those angles on the cast model ;)

Tobi
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: aircav on March 24, 2011, 08:24:16 AM: That's fantastic, I can imagine it full of UNIT Troops chasing round after the Dr :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Sangennaru on March 27, 2011, 03:17:16 PM: i really like it!

do you have any WIP photos to share? :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Doomsdave on March 28, 2011, 01:45:04 PM: Oooh. The painted version is beautiful. the green is a great color choice to show off the angles. I really like this vehicle.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Zafarelli on March 29, 2011, 07:20:56 AM: Thanks, people!

Jack, no WIP pictures, sorry. But a few of the halfway-painted model:
(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster7.jpg)

(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster8.jpg)

(http://pictures.pardulon-models.com/workbench/laster9.jpg)

The cloth cover needs to be finished, and up to now, I have no idea at all what to do with the windows.

Neither price nor name have been settled yet, but I'm quite optimistic that it will be released next Monday 8)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Captain Blood on March 29, 2011, 07:30:08 AM: The Beast.

Like it Jens :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Sangennaru on March 29, 2011, 08:20:18 AM: wow @ the halfway pics!

how did you do the wheels?
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on March 29, 2011, 08:28:14 AM: Quote from: Zafarelli on March 29, 2011, 07:20:56 AM
Neither price nor name have been settled yet, but I'm quite optimistic that it will be released next Monday 8)

How about "Mongo" (from Blazing Saddles) and you could charge 10.00 Euros :-I

lol lol

I know, it's worth much more than that! It's looking great with some paint on ;)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: SBRPearce on March 29, 2011, 01:51:35 PM: Name suggestions: "Bruin", "Warthog", "Mastadon"
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Mick Boddy on March 29, 2011, 08:19:12 PM: Very nice model
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 29, 2011, 09:27:04 PM: Quote from: SBRPearce on March 29, 2011, 01:51:35 PM
Name suggestions: "Bruin", "Warthog", "Mastadon"

Warthog's already taken:

(http://www.co-optimus.com/images/upload/image/editorials/couples/Halo3WarthogCoop.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Captain Blood on March 29, 2011, 09:57:02 PM: Quote from: Commander Vyper on March 29, 2011, 09:27:04 PM
Warthog's already taken:

Certainly is, Commander - by the British army, never mind a li'l ol' video game... ;)

(http://www.army.mod.uk/images/image-scroller/equipment_tracked_warthog_6.jpg)

(http://www.army.mod.uk/images/image-scroller/equipment_tracked_warthog_2.jpg)

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/fighting-vehicles/19931.aspx

:)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 30, 2011, 05:38:01 PM: I think you'll find that a service date of 2010 is much much later than Bungie's first offering of the warthog in Halo: Combat Evolved (November 15, 2001).

:D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Captain Blood on March 30, 2011, 06:41:27 PM: Bloody Hell. The MOD are naming their new armoured vehicles after video game inventions! How's that for life imitating art? ;)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Zafarelli on March 30, 2011, 08:34:52 PM: ... and Warthog is also the Nickname of the A-10 Thunderbolt. But even before that, it was the name of a ... warthog, courtesy of Mother Nature :D

Thanks for all the suggestions, people! Still haven't made up my mind though. I'll probably go with "truck" o_o

Jack, the tires were painted black, then washed with various earth tones to simulate dirt in the tracks, then drybrushed black again. I need to rework these, they are much too light.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Sangennaru on March 30, 2011, 08:36:23 PM: Quote from: Zafarelli on March 30, 2011, 08:34:52 PM
Jack, the tires were painted black, then washed with various earth tones to simulate dirt in the tracks, then drybrushed black again. I need to rework these, they are much too light.

thanks!
but my question is "how did you sculpt them?" :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Zafarelli on March 30, 2011, 08:39:10 PM: I didn't sculpt them at all :) They were modelled in 3D CAD by a friend, then rapid-prototyped.
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Sangennaru on March 30, 2011, 08:39:50 PM: Lol, i see!!! :)

did you use shapeways? how much did it cost? :)
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: The Breaker on March 31, 2011, 03:47:39 AM: My vote is for "The Wombat".
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 31, 2011, 09:26:41 AM: I think that TOAD would be a good name. Or Hyena?
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Zafarelli on April 06, 2011, 07:40:23 AM: Here are the final pictures:

(http://pardulon-models.com/images/product_images/popup_images/136_0.jpg)
(http://pardulon-models.com/images/product_images/popup_images/136_1.jpg)
(http://pardulon-models.com/images/product_images/popup_images/136_2.jpg)
(http://pardulon-models.com/images/product_images/popup_images/136_3.jpg)

Thanks for all the name suggestions! But now that I'm completely confused by all the animal names ("Gazelle" has been added by a friend), I think I'll settle for "Quad Gun Tractor", undecisive and unimaginative guy that I am ::)

Release will be tomorrow morning, retail price will be 21.50 EUR.

Jack, I had the wheels made before I knew Shapeways existed. I won't tell how much I spent, but rest assured it was waaaaay too expensive for what I got in the end.

Now on to the post-apoc conversion...
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Zafarelli on April 07, 2011, 07:31:34 AM: Now available (http://pardulon-models.com/product_info.php/info/p136_All-Terrain-Tractor-Kroete-.html?refID=1) After much tearing of hair and not much sleeping, I have settled for Kröte (http://pardulon-models.com/product_info.php/info/p136_All-Terrain-Tractor-Kroete-.html?refID=1), mainly because it has an ö in it, but also because I found no other vehicle of that name. I'm sure one of you guys will prove me wrong ;D
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (now finished and available)
Post by: Blackwolf on April 07, 2011, 07:47:29 AM: That is a truck of joy :-*
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (pictures of first casting and questions)
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on April 07, 2011, 09:05:31 AM: Quote from: Zafarelli on April 07, 2011, 07:31:34 AM
Now available (http://pardulon-models.com/product_info.php/info/p136_All-Terrain-Tractor-Kroete-.html?refID=1) After much tearing of hair and not much sleeping, I have settled for Kröte (http://pardulon-models.com/product_info.php/info/p136_All-Terrain-Tractor-Kroete-.html?refID=1), mainly because it has an ö in it, but also because I found no other vehicle of that name. I'm sure one of you guys will prove me wrong ;D

It's surprising no-one has named their creation "toad" before :?

Or maybe not lol

Great name though, even though I can't do the umlaut thing with my keyboard >:(
Title: Re: Scratchbuilt truck (now finished and available)
Post by: 6milPhil on April 08, 2011, 10:35:10 PM: (http://www.quickrelease.tv/pix/windinthewillows3.jpg)

Toad: Poop, Poop! Oh, poetry of motion! Ohh, the bliss! Ohhh... poop, poop!