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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Yankeepedlar01 on April 14, 2011, 07:39:05 AM
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Having seen Byklabad fall to the forces of the HEIC in the last game, the Raja of Rhanli sets out to recapture his beloved birthplace from the enemy, but relief for the hard pressed defenders may be at hand...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad005.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad001.jpg)
The Mutineer army advances on all fronts...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad009.jpg)
The defenders are driven from their posts...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad010.jpg)
Things are looking sticky Carruthers...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad013.jpg)
But relief is at hand...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad014.jpg)
Rally on me, men!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad018.jpg)
The Mutineers enter Byklabad...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad017.jpg)
While the relief column is bested and halted...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad019.jpg)
The defenders are forced to retire...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad022.jpg)
The Raja surveys the scene of his triumph...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad023.jpg)
While I am left to contemplate the cause of my defeat...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/Yankeepedlar01/The%20Indian%20Mutiny/ReliefofByklabad012.jpg)
Figures are from Foundry's old Indian Mutiny range, the buildings from Mutineer, apart from the Hovels sandbags and the scratch built shrine. The rules were my own in development set, "The Devil's Wind". When the dice do not love a man, what's he to do?
David
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Great stuff :-*
Great figures by the Perrys from Foundry :)
Great game ::) ;)
www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
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Another lovely game, truly inspiring stuff. ;D loving the dice too :-*
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really great game!
Always great to see your games :-*
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Did I not foretell that Byklabad would be retaken and the Feringhi put the sword, well OK not quite put to the sword as my dice throwing was little better than Dave's at times. Although my valiant troops had an uncanny knack of dodging the Feringhi's bullets when Dave did manage to score hits :)
Dave's collection is really spiffing and I am really lucky to get to use them, the rules are progressing nicely and although based on Dave's previous offerings they are quite different in how they are played.
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Great looking miniatures and terrain! Always wanted to do a Residency kind of assault.
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Just lovely, thank you for sharing.
Helen
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Looks a great game.
I have lots of IM 28mm stuff and have been searching for a decent IM ruleset for years.
Is the 'Devil's Wind' up on the web anywhere?
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Looks a great game.
I have lots of IM 28mm stuff and have been searching for a decent IM ruleset for years.
Is the 'Devil's Wind' up on the web anywhere?
The rules are still a 'work in progress' but are getting there in our view. I hope to have them out for September/October time. Unfortunately they are not in a format to put out for testing, still in files all over the place for different aspects of the game. But, patience has its virtues, they will be good I feel....
David
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Excellent stuff as aways. Now I shall be waiting eagerly for more news from Byklabad. An interesting result, considering that the British were in defences etc. Shows that the Sepoys can do the job, even if they had some luck on the dice, unless of course you had tweaked the rules a bit since the last time. Whatever, it was good to see a not so predictable result, despite what that rascally Raja might say. I will look forward to seeing the rules when they are available.
Top stuff, thanks for posting. :) :)
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I'd like to thank those few hardy souls who have posted a reply: it hardly seems worth the effort at times to post game reports/photomontages when so few people who look even bother to post a comment, terribly disheartening. :'(
It makes me wonder where the wargamers are on this site, when alls said and done are you all content with games featuring half a dozen figures a side? Not my scene at all, massed ranks does it for me every time.
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Damned fine looking armies and terrain!
Absolutely spiffing! Well done old boy!
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I'd like to thank those few hardy souls who have posted a reply: it hardly seems worth the effort at times to post game reports/photomontages when so few people who look even bother to post a comment, terribly disheartening. :'(
It makes me wonder where the wargamers are on this site, when alls said and done are you all content with games featuring half a dozen figures a side? Not my scene at all, massed ranks does it for me every time.
Well I for one am sad to see that you are disheartened by the response or lack of response. Whilst it is true that some here like their smaller games, and good luck to them on that, many of us also like to see, and read about games of this calibre. Your Back of Beyond games with Phil were the highlight of many an otherwise dreary Wargames Illustrated for me. Not everybody feels up to commenting, but check the number of views and I am sure you will take heart. I hope so. As for me, please please keep the story going. Thank you again for sharing your adventures.
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Well I for one am sad to see that you are disheartened by the response or lack of response.
As am I. I really have enjoyed your Byklabad chronicle so far, but I have refrained from commenting as I know relatively little of the Mutiny period. Please keep up the reports as your efforts are greatly appreciated. And it's nice to see the venerable Foundry Mutiny range used in anger.
Maybe I should've run with a 'nice collection' type comment when I originally saw this post. ;) I shall endeavour to comment more frequently.
Nice collection by the way… lol
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@ Yankeepedlar - Dont be disheartened. Id take the number of views as more indicative of the interest than the number of posts commenting, :). Not everybody feels the need to post, and a thread is more interesting to read if the ones who do have some interesting comment, point of discussion or question.
I've loved all the Byklabad posts, been impressed and inspired by them I assure you.
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Superb collection and nice battle report! :-*
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I had a look at a report but only had time to read and look at it with the attention it deserves today. Smashing table alltogether and the collection is beautiful! Is that a Tiger Miniatures donkey's backside I spot there? Or are these Foundry?
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Absolutely gorgeous minis and terrain.
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Awesome! It's the sort of wargaming I would like to do one day.
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Really evocative looking table. I'm about to finish up Neil's blue caps using OG figures. I'm also playing the old S&T Mutiny game solo right now. What is the basing scheme you are using? Looks to be 18-20 figs per foot battalion. It looks so nice I'm questioning my decision to base singly for Sharp Practice.
Mike D
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For Sharp Practice you don't need the rank and file on single bases. You could use casualty caps or figures to indicate shock and wounds. So long as the Big Men are based singly it should work. For their playtests the designers used their normal Napoleonics collection with the infantry based in threes.
Or you could base singly but use the Litko sabot bases.
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Thanks for the positive comments, I am encouraged to post again now! :)
Yes, its a Tiger Miniatures donkey/mule in the cart, with a Foundry Mutineer limber rider as its driver. I got a cart from Nick at Boot Hill {Thanks very much, Nick} and have a second limber rider for that cart's driver.
In my rules, the number of figures on an infantry base is irrelevant, notionally each infantry base has four 'Kills' to suffer before it is lost: so, you could put one or five figures on the base, it would n't matter, the look/cost ratio is all that dictates your personal choice.{Cavalry have three figures, artillery four or more by the way}
Of course you can base your figures up singly and put them on to holding bases ~ like those from the splendid chaps at Warbases! I rejected that as an option because 'the look' I wanted for my games was of massed armies, not a skirmish game. But, each to their own of course is the best answer.
Cheers!
David
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@mdomino: I think yankeepeedlar's armies could work for Sharp Practice too. You'd just need to add individual Big Men. Although for the level 1 BMs who never really leave their group, I don't see why they couldn't be based with the troops. But higher level commanders need to be able to move between groups as required.
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Jamesmanto, thanks. I'll have to look more closely at the command structure in SP, because his troops sure do look the business. Yankeepedlar, what size bases are you using? I should have been more specific as that was my interest in previous question. Thanks.
Mike D
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Yankeepedlar, what size bases are you using? I should have been more specific as that was my interest in previous question. Thanks.
Mike D
Hi! Infantry bases are 40 x 50mm, cavalry & artillery are 80 x 50mm, command are on round bases of 60 or 50mm diameter. They are all MDF bases from Warbases or from Foundry. Hope this helps.
David
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David,
I am right there with you with the massed army approach - though my Indian Mutiny is in 15 mm, mostly Dixon but some Essex "borrowed" from other ranges to add variety, and the few odd figures from others. Alas, they languish partly painted as I work on other collections. Perhaps your rules will move them to the forefront of the painting table!
Lovely game report.
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David,
Perhaps your rules will move them to the forefront of the painting table!
Lovely game report.
Well, I do hope so, as all sales will be welcomed! ;)
David
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Damn, I tried so hard to resist, but have now placed an order for some Muntiny figures. Another colonial period has got me. Its ok though, Ive told the wife its all Davids fault!!
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Damn, I tried so hard to resist, but have now placed an order for some Muntiny figures. Another colonial period has got me. Its ok though, Ive told the wife its all Davids fault!!
I plead, "Not Guilty by reaon of insanity!" :D
David
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Superb looking collection there and interesting game o_o
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very appealing collection, scenery, scenario etc, thank You
some time ago I had a discussion with a hobby colleague about the introduction of pith helmets - since I saw a british unit in red wearing those, I would like to ask:
can You tell me when these were introduced (at least inofficially)
is this unit of Yours authentic or just a very acceptable stand-in?
I would just like to know, there is no uniform nazism intended here :)
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I plead, "Not Guilty by reaon of insanity!"
David
Noone who knows you would contest that plea............. lol
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very appealing collection, scenery, scenario etc, thank You
some time ago I had a discussion with a hobby colleague about the introduction of pith helmets - since I saw a british unit in red wearing those, I would like to ask:
can You tell me when these were introduced (at least inofficially)
is this unit of Yours authentic or just a very acceptable stand-in?
I would just like to know, there is no uniform nazism intended here :)
former user, at the risk of being corrected, I am pretty sure that the Indian Mutiny was the first campaign in which British troops wore a pith helmet in action. I have not found any evidence to the contrary. How official the introduction was I don't know, but it certainly became official in a short space of time. The first helmets were, I think, locally made wicker versions. Hope this helps.
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...and it isn't a pith helmet in the shape of later ones.........
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my knowledge is limited, but the only ones I saw in pictures were on officers heads
anyway, Indian uniforms were irregular in many ways, so I must have missed this one
not that Your troops would look out of place and time in any way...
I was just curious to learn more
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Sun helmets weren't very common as rank-and-file headgear in India at the beginning of the Mutiny. A forage cap with a pagri wrapped round it or a cover with a neck cloth over it seems to have been the most common headgear. The airpipe style sun helmet was common among EIC officers, but not amongst Queen's officers.
Many reinforcement units arrived in India in uncomfortably hot red uniforms and shakos. The shakos soon went and troops took to wearing their forage caps instead. Over the winter of 1857-58 mass production of sun helmets was set up in India, and these were issued, along with lighter cotton uniforms to units in need of such things.
Riflemen of the Camel Corps, for example, replaced their rifle green clothing and shakos with this :
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/CamelCorps-3.jpg)
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THX Plynkes
I was actually waiting for You to pop up with the info ;)
so can we understand that the "classic" pith helmet in use until the wolseley sun helmet made its apparition
"Over the winter of 1857-58 mass production of sun helmets " ??
and that its tabletop use outside of historically accurate scenarios could be acceptable?
sorry for derailing
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The introduction of the "classic" type came a little later. Those locally-produced ones which resemble it only seem to have been in use during the mutiny itself, and I'm not altogether clear what their design was. I haven't seen any actual photos of them. If the Osprey illustration is accurate they weren't of the air-pipe style. Speaking of which:
After the Mutiny the British in India adopted the so-called "Air-pipe helmet" for all ranks, so-named because it had a crest-like air vent on the top:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Airpipe.jpg)
This type of helmet had been a common sight on officers during the mutiny, but it became the standard headgear for British infantry in India after that:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/post-91-1131186513.jpg)
It was also worn in China, and on the Abyssinian expedition.
It was replaced by the "classic" type seen in the Zulu War, the Sudan, etc. in 1870, which was worn pretty much everywhere outside of Britain.
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.... and that is why I love this site......... :-*
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and there are very few manufacturers making troops with the airpipe helmet I guess....
apart from the fact that it produces the problem of not being able to use the same kind of british troops models if one wants to stay historically accurate....
THX again
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Foundry make some, in fact I think the ones in the battle report might be from Foundry:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/BRV301_1272367036_380x250.png)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/BRV302_1273135163_380x250.png)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/BRV303_1273135554_380x250.png)
And Mutineer Miniatures did the odd officer or two wearing one, last time I looked:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/6/163_30_06_10_3_16_56_1.jpg)
But you are correct. There is no generic British infantryman figure that will work for the whole second half of the 19th Century. They changed how they looked in almost every war, just to spite wargamers and figure painters. lol
If you only want one British army for all your gaming, you are going to have to accept the fact that they will be slightly-to-extremely wrong for most of the games they are in. If you can accept that, it isn't a problem. If you can't then you're going to have to get painting. Simple as that. ;)
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I think most of Dave's figures are Foundry, with the occasional Perry/Redoubt and, of course, his lovely Empress Zulu War............
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"If you can't then you're going to have to get painting. Simple as that."
which is not my current strength, unfortunately :?
sorry again for the diversion
The Byklabad campaign is very interesting with the multitude of units employed, and I am very inspired by it and was curious to know more
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One way to do it, former user, is to choose figures for the campaign you are most interested in, and don't get hung up about it if they aren't quite right for other campaigns you plan to play. Lots of people do that.
I paint slowly and infrequently, so I empathize with you, and understand the appeal of a single one-size-fits-all army over having to paint lots of different ones. But I enjoy painting too, so it isn't too a great burden for me.
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I don't know, a chap goes away for a few days in the 'frozen north' and comes home to find all this earnest discussion about 28mm toys' headgear. "Keep calm dear, its only a game you know." as a Prime Minister might have said.
The figures in my Indian Mutiny games are all from the Foundry range, except for a very few Phil painted for me and the guns from Mutineer. The infantry are in air pipe helmets as are one or two officer figures, but the rest are in early versions of the locally produced sun helmets I think.
I chose the Foundry range over the growing Mutineer range when I started collecting figures for the project as I am lucky enough to be able to get over to Foundry ~ benefits of being retired ~ and avail myself of the many £5.00 'Bargain Blister' offers on the Open Days; cost being an important factor for me, as it is for most of us I imagine.
Interesting to see all the information its elicited though...
David
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I don't know, a chap goes away for a few days in the 'frozen north' and comes home to find all this earnest discussion about 28mm toys' headgear. "Keep calm dear, its only a game you know." as a Prime Minister might have said.
David
Quite right Sir, but one likes things to be all Sir Garnet don't you know. Besides it has made interesting reading amongst all the froth thats scattered around this internet thingy.
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One way to do it, former user, is to choose figures for the campaign you are most interested in, and don't get hung up about it if they aren't quite right for other campaigns you plan to play. Lots of people do that.
I paint slowly and infrequently, so I empathize with you, and understand the appeal of a single one-size-fits-all army over having to paint lots of different ones. But I enjoy painting too, so it isn't too a great burden for me.
Find an army that's attractive, add in extra bits that they don't have from other armies and play with them anywhere suitable.
We have a large 15mm Zulu army, bought because we liked the figures. It has only fought an 1879 British column once. But it has occasionally fought against arab slavers, alongside allied arab slavers against Napoleonic British, against Napoleonic French, and with archers added, as a Nubian army against ancient Egyptians, but most frequent of all against 16th century Portugese. We have no problems with it. We know the figures are Zulus, but for other settings, they aren't Zulus they just look like them.