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Title: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Captain Blood on April 30, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
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Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Belgian on May 01, 2011, 10:36:41 AM
Difficult choice!  :o
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hammers on May 01, 2011, 10:37:38 AM
Ouch, I've been fearing this...
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Heldrak on May 01, 2011, 10:38:16 AM
Yowsa! Talk about a battle of the titans...!  :-*
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Blue in vt on May 01, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
Yeah...this is brutal!

Frank has the ability to make you feel like part of the action...and hammers painting and scenery are always great...wonderful work boys!

Blue
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 01, 2011, 10:59:09 AM
I promised myself that I wouldn't comment on any entries this year (voted for each and every one though  :) ), but I have to say, that anjin-san is a brilliant idea  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Andy0476 on May 01, 2011, 11:09:51 AM
Frank is stepping it up!  :o
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: digimortal on May 01, 2011, 11:10:44 AM
The cream is rising....
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Bugsda on May 01, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
Top job Frank Sama, Hai! (http://i53.tinypic.com/2ui9ffk.jpg)


Also outstanding Hammers, but Shogun!  ;D
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Fire Broadside! on May 01, 2011, 11:25:16 AM
Ooooh! Richard Chamberlain or Tintin! Decisions decisions...
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Lt. Hazel on May 01, 2011, 11:26:20 AM
The clash of Titans. I love the Shogun-Novell, and Franks scene looks like right out of the movie, with Chamberlain´s undestroyable haircut. Hammers, this time I can´t give you my vote mate!
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hammers on May 01, 2011, 11:28:16 AM
The clash of Titans. I love the Shogun-Novell, and Franks scene looks like right out of the movie, with Chamberlain´s undestroyable haircut. Hammers, this time I can´t give you my vote mate!

Believe me, I understand. Frank's got the lighting just so to...
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Tomsche on May 01, 2011, 11:44:56 AM
Two rounds to soon though  lol
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hammers on May 01, 2011, 11:50:00 AM
Two rounds to soon though  lol

You mean Frank's entry? It would be disqualified for bonus points. Cptn Blood has been quite emphatic about Made-For-TV films not counting.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Tomsche on May 01, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
Nah, I meant the `Clash of Giants`

Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Raz on May 01, 2011, 12:03:43 PM
Very tough indeed, both are just awesome! 8)
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hammers on May 01, 2011, 12:05:32 PM
Ah. Yeah, well, rounds 7 to 10 are top ten matched rounds so it is expected. I've been secretly dreading being paired with Frank since round 2 since he's been my over all favourite throughout this LPL. I was apparently right in fearing it.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Regulator on May 01, 2011, 01:52:29 PM
John Blackthorne! Lovely miniature Frank  :)
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 01, 2011, 02:01:38 PM
Tough choice, but I ended up voting for the Cigars because of the extensive conversions and customization. Thematically, I have to say I prefer Shogun to TinTin (I eagerly waited for Shogun to be run on TV, before the days of VCR!) but I don't vote on something just because I prefer the subject matter. None-the-less, great work on both entries guys.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hammers on May 01, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
I have to do a shoutout to my pal Svenn who did the Ki-Oskh transfers for me. Peace, man. They are not quite bonafide as they are supposed to be yellow. Tricky colour to get right in transfers so we settled for a black on a painted yellow field instead.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Pil on May 01, 2011, 03:52:16 PM
Ouch, indeed an awesome match-up! Frank really seems to have the most awesome, grandest collection of scenery, and he uses it well. Hammers has the most awesome, grandest collection of ideas and uses it well as well. I didn't really recognise the tin-tin scene so I guess that cost Hammers another vote. Sorry, but I do love your entry!
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Frank on May 01, 2011, 03:59:49 PM
Ouch, I've been fearing this...

I had the same feelings...  :)

...and actually this one was my round 10 contribution, before I found out about this TV restriction. :'(
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: SultanSevy on May 01, 2011, 04:01:57 PM
The Anjin-San vignette evokes something right out of a movie. Brilliant!
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hawkeye on May 01, 2011, 04:52:31 PM
There have been some tough match-ups in the league so far, but this is the toughest - brilliant work in both entries.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Axebreaker on May 01, 2011, 06:05:02 PM
Both are outstanding, but I have to go with Frank's for the reasons of Stunning painting, idea and layout and Shogun is my favourite book of all time! Your best yet Frank and that's saying a lot! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Christopher
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: manic _miner on May 01, 2011, 06:14:21 PM
 A really hard one to vote on this.Both are great pieces very well done.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 01, 2011, 06:48:33 PM
Frank, are you digitally blending your bases into the scene (the way the Perrys do in their tutorial), imbedding the figures in loose basing material, or pinning them in place, or some other method? I'm curious about how you achieve the seamless look you are getting.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Admiral Benbow on May 01, 2011, 06:53:10 PM
Frank, are you digitally blending your bases into the scene (the way the Perrys do in their tutorial), imbedding the figures in loose basing material, or pinning them in place, or some other method? I'm curious about how you achieve the seamless look you are getting.

Yes, good question. I would also be interested how much digital voodoo is involved, if at all?

Hammers, just brilliant idea and execution. Could you tell a bit about those mummy conversions?

Both entries are smashing, and for me the hardest match of the entire LPL season 5.

 :-*
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: syrinx0 on May 01, 2011, 07:13:31 PM
 I love the heads on the mummies. I was half expecting to see the man & dog in a sarcophagus with all those conversions. 

The Shogun scene is just too good. From the detail on the figures to the scene itself.  Fantastic.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: gamer Mac on May 01, 2011, 07:17:56 PM
Meant to ask Frank
Who makes the Anjin-san/Richard Chamberlain figure?
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Frank on May 01, 2011, 07:52:02 PM
@Dr. Mathias: I use more or less the same method as the Perry's in their tutorial...so, it is done with Photoshop. I use the stamp tool and the whole things is only a matter of 5 minutes. 8)

@Gamer Mac: The miniature of Anjin-San is a head-conversion. I have used the head of the TACTICA 2010 miniature (http://www.hamburger-tactica.de/tactica/pages/tactica2010.html ) and the rest is a Perry mini.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: gamer Mac on May 01, 2011, 08:10:56 PM
Thanks
He is the spitting image.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hammers on May 01, 2011, 09:05:44 PM
Thanks
He is the spitting image.

Yes, it is very good.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 01, 2011, 09:27:20 PM
That's what swung it for me. I'm a big Tin Tin fan but the Blackthone won it in the end  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hammers on May 01, 2011, 09:33:42 PM
Hammers, just brilliant idea and execution. Could you tell a bit about those mummy conversions?


The sarcophagi are blatant resin recasts of a purchased item. I modelled it with a integrated, beheaded mummy before I made the mould. The heads, which were painted separaterly, are Woodbine (pith helmet), Sloppy Jalopy and one Fezèd head cut from a Brigade mini. Some of them got greenstuff beards and mustachios to add some fin de siecle look to some of the Egyptologists. The wonders of resin casting... Once you get the hang of it, it's but a moments work. I think it took me 6 hrs effective time during two days to get that going, including painting.

Looking at the composition now and comparing with Frank's I realize I would have gotten away with including more of the frescoes. The wall is built around three rather wonderful Monolith ancient Egypt frescoes surrounding the glyph of Pharao Ki'Oskh which I carved myself. Just the lower part of this, feet and oxen, can be seen in the image. I had initial plans of painting and antiquating them rather lavishly but test photography gave me impression I would have to pull away to far to get fit them into the pic. I was (am) also rather happy with the zenith spray painting (AP Tan on a Leather Brown base) of the stone wall. Quick , simple and it looks convincing IRL, the pharao and his mate really pops. So I went for a subtle hint in the photo, thinking it enough.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Parriah on May 02, 2011, 01:54:15 PM
 :o
 :o

Both are Fantastic,
But I've been a Clavel fan since Shogun was on TV the first time.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: valleyboy on May 02, 2011, 09:00:31 PM
Congratulations to both as they both deserve a gong
This is why the LPL is such an attraction
Thank you gents
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Galland on May 03, 2011, 02:51:49 AM
Ouch, another one, two, to say the least, fantastic entries. I find it very hard to vote when it ends up like this!
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: AndrewBeasley on May 07, 2011, 11:09:34 AM
I sit here in awe humbled at the feet of masters  :o

Wowser seems to sum it up - fantastic work both of you - no shame in loosing this one whoever wins

Now to vote for  :?
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Hammers on May 07, 2011, 12:12:25 PM
Congratulations, Frank! It is not hard to loose a winning streak to such an excellent entry. I really thought I came up with a crowd pleaser with this one but when you're up against a master, you're up against a master.
Title: Re: ROUND 8 Anjin-San vs Pulp: Pharoah Ki-Oskh Cigar Afficionado Society
Post by: Frank on May 07, 2011, 10:09:48 PM
Thank you Hammers! Such a compliment from a LPL veteran means a lot me. I really enjoy your fantastic work and your great ideas.