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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Cadet13 on May 02, 2011, 02:57:52 AM
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Hello everyone. I have a couple of questions regarding some of the Perry Sudan range cavalry figures, particularly the 19th Hussar packs:
1. Does anyone know if these figures have carbines as well as sabers? I know they have sabers from pictures, but I can't ell if they also have carbines.
2. Size wise, how do they compare to cavalry models of other manufacturers? I'm not too picky, but if they're really small compared to others then they won't work.
Thanks in advance!
Cadet13
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I use Perry figures alongside Old Glory no problems. A bit small beside Bicorne and a bit bigger than RAFM. I have a Perry officer commanding my Old glory cavalry brigade. He looks fine.
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Two mounted officers. The RN officer is Perry, the Infantry one Foundry:
(http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/the_gluteus_maximus/Wargames/DSCF2309.jpg?t=1304324244)
Naval officers. Chap in hat, Copplestone, holding sword Perry:
(http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/the_gluteus_maximus/Wargames/th_DSCF1471-1-1.jpg?t=1304324498)
As to carbines, the Bengal Lancers certainly carry them, but I can't find any pics of the right-hand side of their British cavalry. I would be 99.9% certain they would be carrying them, as the range is rigorously accurate:
(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2009/dec/278572c.jpg)
They are sadly not my figures, as apart from officers, I don't yet own any Perry cavalry :(
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Hello everyone. I have a couple of questions regarding some of the Perry Sudan range cavalry figures, particularly the 19th Hussar packs:
1. Does anyone know if these figures have carbines as well as sabers? I know they have sabers from pictures, but I can't ell if they also have carbines.
2. Size wise, how do they compare to cavalry models of other manufacturers? I'm not too picky, but if they're really small compared to others then they won't work.
Thanks in advance!
Cadet13
The 10th Hussars have them, I'd assume the 19th do as well.
Depends who you're going to be using them with! As already mentioned, they fit well with OG, Foundry etc, but look decidedly out of place next to Copplestone - although, so do most ranges.
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thanks guys! based on those comparison pics and some of the minis that I have, I think that they will workd for me size wise. I just wish that I could find a picture of their right side... :?
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The 10th Hussars have them, I'd assume the 19th do as well.
Depends who you're going to be using them with! As already mentioned, they fit well with OG, Foundry etc, but look decidedly out of place next to Copplestone - although, so do most ranges.
I assume you mean Copplestone horses are larger than Perry, as the humans look compatible to me. Mixing different sized horses in the same unit might look odd, but used in discrete units would look ok.
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From my experience Perry minis work well with Copplestone, lots of people seem to have an opinion that they are drastically smaller but I really haven't found that to be the case and I'm quite picky when it comes to things like that.
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From my experience Perry minis work well with Copplestone, lots of people seem to have an opinion that they are drastically smaller but I really haven't found that to be the case and I'm quite picky when it comes to things like that.
See my pic in the previous post. ;)
I've been banging on about this for ages, but as you say, there seems to be a general perception of small size with the Perrys. They are a bit more slender than Copplestone etc, but not enough to look out of place and weapons, webbing etc are very close.
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The 19th have carbines on their right leg as well, just like the Bengal lancers.
I have the models here in front of me.
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See my pic in the previous post. ;)
I've been banging on about this for ages, but as you say, there seems to be a general perception of small size with the Perrys. They are a bit more slender than Copplestone etc, but not enough to look out of place and weapons, webbing etc are very close.
That's good to hear (and see). :)
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See my pic in the previous post. ;)
I've been banging on about this for ages, but as you say, there seems to be a general perception of small size with the Perrys. They are a bit more slender than Copplestone etc, but not enough to look out of place and weapons, webbing etc are very close.
I see your photograph, and raise you one of my own!
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/answeris42/Models/DSCF1017.jpg)
From left to right: Cat, Copplestone, Perry, Eureka and Dixon.
Copplestone are huge! Everything about them (especially, in my opinion, the weapons) is out of scale with Perry.
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Copplestone are huge! Everything about them (especially, in my opinion, the weapons) is out of scale with Perry.
Maybe, but they work together okay as far as I'm concerned. In fact the two in your picture look all right together to me. Must be a difference of perception.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Size%20Comp/CoppsPerry.jpg)
Copps on the left, Perry on the right (with a new head that actually makes the figure shorter than the original head did).
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the copplestone heads are sometimes bulkier and out of proportion as opposed to perry which are closer to natural
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The 19th have carbines on their right leg as well, just like the Bengal lancers.
I have the models here in front of me.
Thanks Buzgob, that answers my question! :)
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the copplestone heads are sometimes bulkier and out of proportion as opposed to perry which are closer to natural
Yes, indeed. It's not the height per see, but the scale; they're very bulky. Admittedly, I am somewhat more picky about this than others, but personally I would not use them together. A matter of opinion.
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Copplestone are huge! Everything about them (especially, in my opinion, the weapons) is out of scale with Perry.
Fair enough, each to their own. I'd like to have seen four different versions of the same troop type, as it's always harder to judge from different uniforms, hats etc. Even slightly different poses can make a figure look very different from another.
It's a matter of subjectivity - there's usually no "right" or "wrong" answer, it just depends on how uniform you want your little people to be, I suppose. I'm happy to see Crouch and Defoe in the same team, or Danny Care and Andrew Sheridan ;)
All I can say is the figures I have from the two companies fit together well enough for me - not always in the same unit, but always ok on the same table. Weapons/equipment are my yardsticks and judging from the ones I have there is no great problem.
I still maintain Perry are not small, though. :)
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One also shouldn't underestimate the power of homogeneous painting. Sometimes it can bring together miniatures that looked completely incompatible in the "silver".
I saw some Perry Sudan sailors next to some Copplestone ones last weekend. They looked quite alright together.
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One also shouldn't underestimate the power of homogeneous painting. Sometimes it can bring together miniatures that looked completely incompatible in the "silver".
That's my secret. I can put the best quality figure in the same painting batch as the worst and they'll both look homogeneously crap lol
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I still maintain Perry are not small, though. :)
I agree. I do think Copplestone are rather large, though... :D
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Wow, I'm afraid I kicked a hornet's nest with all of the discussion I've generated! :)
Thoug I'll agree, the Perry figures that I have fit in well size wise with my other infantry. I was just curious about the cavalry's size because I've never seen the Perry's cavalry "in the flesh."