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Miniatures Adventure => Pulp => Topic started by: Ssendam on 14 May 2011, 09:00:13 PM
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Hi All
Does anyone know if there are any 28mm or equivalent scale 1920's aircraft for sale anywhere?
I think 1/48 model kits would probably do the trick but seems that not many are made anymore. There was a 1/48 kits of a Ford Tri Motor Antarctic Expedition (how cool is that) but alas not made anymore.
I'm wanting to do a jungle crash site for a pulp scenario and a suitable model would b pretty useful.
;)
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I use WWI aircraft. SMER 1/48 are sturdy and cheap. Ebay is your friend ;)
http://desc.shop.ebay.co.uk/Model-Kits-/1188/i.html?LH_TitleDesc=1&LH_PrefLoc=2&_nkw=smer&_catref=1&_dmpt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282
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These Lockheed Vega metal airplane banks make pretty good pulp aircraft:
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/Heldrak/Sales/Sales%20-%20Figures%203/IMG_0001-3.jpg)
Heroclix Lobster Johnson figure shown for scale.
They're usually relatively cheap and plentiful on eBay. You will probably want to repaint it, however...
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Have you had a look at this thread.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=5890.msg64396#msg64396 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=5890.msg64396#msg64396)
Big thread but loads of inspiration.
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Thanks GamerMac, interesting thread, not quite what I'm after although I may have to scratch build something from a kit like the Gottha.
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From: http://www.century-of-flight.net/new%20site/commercial/Commercial%20Aviation.htm
By the end of the 1920s, travellers could still cross the country faster by train than by air. Airplanes had to fly around mountains, could not fly safely at night, and had to land frequently to refuel. Flying by air was uncomfortable and some passengers wore overalls, helmets, and goggles. The airplanes were un-insulated thin sheets of metal, rattling in the wind, and passengers stuck cotton in their ears to stop the noise. Cabins were un-pressurised—passengers chewed gum to equalize the air pressure. Nevertheless, more and more people were flying. The number of airline passengers in the United States grew from less than 6,000 in 1926 to approximately 173,000 in 1929. Businessmen comprised most of the passengers, and more and more companies would pay for their employees to travel by air.
And from http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Commercial_Aviation/passenger_xperience/Tran2.htm
In these early days of passenger flight, airlines realized that they needed to keep passengers happy and encourage them to return once they were brave enough to fly. In the late 1920s, some airlines employed male crew members, known as aerial couriers, cabin boys, flight companions, airplane attendants, or stewards, on their flights. These men, who were usually teenagers or men of small stature, loaded luggage, reassured nervous passengers, and helped people get around the plane. Stout Airlines, which later became part of the United Air Lines group, is credited with hiring America's first male flight attendants in 1926 for its Ford Trimotors on the Detroit to Grand Rapids route. Some airlines used the co-pilot to tend to passengers, serving beverages, reissuing tickets when a flight was canceled or delayed, and reassuring passengers during air turbulence. By the late 1920s, Pan American Airways, which flew over water, required extensive first aid and seamanship training for its steward trainees.
But on May 15, 1930, everything changed when Boeing Air Transport introduced the first female flight attendants. These women, called air stewardesses, attempted to make passengers more comfortable, offering them water, a sandwich, and sometimes chewing gum to help relieve ear discomfort. They also carried baggage, took passenger tickets, checked for gasoline leaks, and tidied up the cabin after a flight. Ellen Church, a registered nurse, is credited with convincing Steve Stimpson, manager of Boeing's San Francisco office, that women could work in a role previously limited to men. She persuaded the company that nurses were best able to tend to ailing passengers. Thus, nurses aboard the Boeing Model 80 became the first female flight attendants, for the salary of $125 per month. American Airlines began using stewardesses in 1933, and other airlines soon followed, although Pan American resisted the trend until 1944.
Quick searches showed mostly post WW2 commercial and private aircraft... :'(
The hunt continues after a good night's sleep.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Best I have so far is:
JU52 - 1/48 - manufactured 1932. Not quite the right year but acceptable for a pulp game, (crashed prototype?).
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/aircraft/85-5624.html
Ryan Airline "Spirit of St. Louis" -1/48 - manufactured 1927. Only a single seater though and I wanted a plane for a group that had crashed in the Jungle.
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/aircraft/85-5244.html
Revell do a Ford Trimotor, but 1/77 ?! scale.
You can get paper models of various suitable planes here:
http://ecardmodels.com/product_info.php?products_id=1196
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I'd avoid the Ertle Lockheed Vega Airplane Bank. It's about 1/32 scale and too large for 28mm's.
Here some links to my webpage where I review diecast and other planes that are about the right scale .
http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2010/08/airplane-models-suitable-for-2528mm-gaming.html
http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2010/08/more-airplanes.html
Comparisons of some of the planes I mention with 28mm figures
http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/2/post/2011/03/lockheed-air-express.html
http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/airplane-and-miniatures.html
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The Squadron Shop @ squadron.com has one of the largest list of aircraft sold. They have a search engine that will allow you to search by scale. While they don't have a lot of 28 mm planes they have a very large collection of 25 mm planes.
I bought a PBY that has worked well in a few games based in the South Pacific if you remember the old TV show Tales of the Brass Monkey.
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The repainted Lockheed Electra 10 from my LPL Round 9 entry "Mountains of Madness" was purchased off fleabay and although a little small next to 28mm minis, it does the trick. Sky Pilot is the brand. Bought it for Pulp games and hoping for later on in Strange Aeons
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The 'planes from Il Porco Rosso are available from Finemolds and they are cracking.
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist
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Junkers F-13 is perfect for 1920's Pulp. It first flew in 1919, promptly set altitude and distance records, was all metal, and was the world's 1st commercial airliner. Over 300 of them were sold to various countries around the world. It had seats for two pilots in the open cockpit, and room for 4 pasengers in a heated cabin. That allows a Pulp miniatures party of 6 total to fly in the plane.
Image link:
http://www.google.com/search?q=junkers+f-13&hl=en&biw=1142&bih=594&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=pSLoTd3-N6zQiAKMjcGyAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CBsQsAQ
Franklin Mint makes a floatplane version of the Junkers F-13 in 1:48 scale. It's too beautiful to use for a crashed plane, however.
Here is a link to an image of the Franklin Mint float plane:
http://www.flyingmule.com/products/FM-B11E737
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That Franklin Mint Junkers is a sweet plane, but at $80 to $100 I'd only get it if I was going to use it in most of my pulp games.
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That Junkers F-13 is sweet, shame on one does a 1/48 plastic kit.
Anyway ... I found myself one of these on ebay ...
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22815&pid=249484&mode=threaded&start= (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22815&pid=249484&mode=threaded&start=)
It's a Lockheed Vega and I think I'll do it up in Shell colours:
http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/november/aviation/MPM_Vega.php (http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/november/aviation/MPM_Vega.php)
On the basis that you could reasonably expect that plane to be found all over the world, and thus in any scenario ... with some imagination :)
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Here's one worth looking for, the Dornier Superwal, going through flight testing in this silent film from 1926:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ZoXdqZLJ8&NR=1