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Miniatures Adventure => Weird Wars => Topic started by: Hammers on 18 May 2011, 07:56:08 AM

Title: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Hammers on 18 May 2011, 07:56:08 AM
What is the term or if there is none what would be a suitable retro-name for the troop type made famous in Vietnamn (Air Cavalry, Air Assult, VTOL carried infantry...)?
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Aldramelech on 18 May 2011, 08:37:05 AM
Well there were Fallshirmjager (Paratroops) and there were Luftlande (Air Landing).

The most famous example of the latter was the 22nd  Luftlande-Division that were landed in Crete once the airfields had been captured by the Fallshirmjager.
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 18 May 2011, 08:50:35 AM
You could translate "Air Cavalry" as "Luftkavallerie". However, a more pulpengerman term would be "Luftsturm-" (~air[borne] assault...), followed by a term corresponding to the size of unit:

Luftsturmzug - Airborne Assault Platoon
Luftsturmkompanie - Airborne Assault Company
Luftsturmbataillon
Luftsturmregiment

"Luftlande-" is commonly used for non-paratrooper, non-helicopter airborne troops. "Fallschirmjäger" is used for paratroopers. I think that "Luftsturm" was actually used in the 1960s and 70s to describe US air assault formations in reports on Vietnam.
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Weird WWII on 18 May 2011, 11:23:34 AM
Great name Chris!  I've been wondering what to call my FJ units equipped with Dragons helos.  Noting cooler then seeing a sky full of German helos dropping their FJ commandos.  Well, maybe Captain America kicking the shit outta them, but its all still cool. :D

Brian

PS
Here is our take on Air Assault in our WWWII gaming.
http://whattheminiatures.com/forum/index.php?topic=199.0
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Hammers on 18 May 2011, 04:54:14 PM
Wikipedia claims that the contemporary nomenclature for the Bundeswehr unit is Division Luftbewegliche Operationen
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 18 May 2011, 06:46:51 PM
Wikipedia claims that the contemporary nomenclature for the Bundeswehr unit is Division Luftbewegliche Operationen

That does sound reasonable, if militarily dry. Speaking as a German, I would still prefer "Luftsturmdivision", pronounced with a rrrolling r.  ;)
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: carlos marighela on 18 May 2011, 10:13:48 PM
Surely it is obligatory in these circumstances to incorporate the phrase '99 Luftballons' into the title? Then you can include a mini of a cute girl with bad  '80s hair into the unit.

By the way the original seems to have aged remarkably well.
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Hammers on 19 May 2011, 07:11:08 AM
That does sound reasonable, if militarily dry. Speaking as a German, I would still prefer "Luftsturmdivision", pronounced with a rrrolling r.  ;)

Got nuthin' with a zed in there some where to? ;)
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 19 May 2011, 10:08:27 AM
Got nuthin' with a zed in there some where to? ;)

Make it "Zehntes Luftsturmregiment z.b.V.", then.   :D

(Tenth Air Assault Regiment, Special Operations)
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Parriah on 31 May 2011, 03:47:07 PM
LuftStarkerstrumdivision?
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 31 May 2011, 04:34:32 PM
LuftStarkerstrumdivision?

Even in Pulpengerman, that doesn't make any sense at all!  lol ;)
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Parriah on 01 June 2011, 04:06:45 PM
Yeah, but it sounds great tho, don't it? ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on 01 June 2011, 04:47:56 PM
Yeah, but it sounds great tho, don't it? ;) :D ;D

Honestly, not to a German, as it doesn't make any sense AND is grammatically and lexically incorrect. ;)

Won't vouch for you uppitty colonials though, as you tend to like all sorts of strange things. lol
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Plynkes on 01 June 2011, 05:08:35 PM
To my anglophone ear it sounds like the name of a gang of guitar-playing airborne nudists.
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: earthdog on 01 June 2011, 06:06:42 PM
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LuftStarkerstrumdivision
Babelfish strikes again! Just out of curiosity, what were you trying to translate when you ended up with that?

Air Strong Assault Division??
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: commissarmoody on 01 June 2011, 06:22:23 PM
LOL, even my high school german is having a hard time figuring this one out  lol
Title: Re: Air Assult forces in German?
Post by: Parriah on 09 June 2011, 06:22:21 PM
Babelfish strikes again! Just out of curiosity, what were you trying to translate when you ended up with that?

Air Strong Assault Division??

I shamelessly stole the word (mostly) from the X-Box Crimson Skies game (Starkerstrumzeppelin) at the end of the game Never tried to translate it for true tho, just took the translation given in the game as given. (Strong Storm Zep.)
For those who aren't familiar, it was a MONSTROUS zep that creates tornadoes that were destroying 1937 Chicago