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Title: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 08, 2011, 10:20:56 AM
Hi Folkes!

I thought of introducing myself via my miniatures I have painted so far. Mostly dwarves, that is. But in recent years other miniatures made it into my collection, too. Some amazing miniatures came from Confrontation (and ... Confro 4.0 minis are NOT Confro any more to me)!

It is difficult to explain, what my aiming is, while painting. Sometimes I just paint to be quick for playing, or testing something. But sometimes I just want to find out, how a certain technique is working - however, I rarely put much effort into it.

But to get an impression of my minis it is best to show them! So - have fun (I hope). Again I hope You won't mind, but not all of my dwarves like to be photographed ;)
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/BW_200dpi75q.jpg)

These are some of my earliest dwarves from GW. They are also my first "conversions" if one like to call it that.
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Musiker01_100dpi75q.jpg)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/0102_dwarf_kunsthand.jpg)
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/2Musketiere01_100dpi.jpg)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/2Musketiere02_100dpi.jpg)

The musicians were the start of my idea, to have a complete 20men strong dwarven regiment of musicians. The other one was some try to copy a famous dwarf (I think it is Gurnison), but it was stolen (really!) ... I took it as a compliment. If You have seen it somewhere ... it is still mine! The shooters are one of my favorites, though I painted them years and years ago.

Over the years more and more dwarves rally under my banner!
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/KK_Stander.JPG)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/AST_WHFB_klein_a.JPG)

Hammerers, ...
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/ht_003.jpg)

... Miners, ...
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/bw_002.jpg)

... even some Slayers ...
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/sl_008.jpg)

... and some Ironbreakers!
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Eisenbrecher01_100dpi75q.jpg)
(the shields are ... please, guess! ... knobs or buttons from a material store ... hnhnhn)

Through the years I tried some other themes for my normal clan-warriors
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Sturmschilde.jpg)
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/EB_selfmade_Gruppe100dpi.jpg)

And since I NEVER get accustomed to the idea of flying steam-helicopters (dwarven technology or not) I invented this little fellow, with a little help from a PrivateerPress' Warmachine Merc-Driller:
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/GyroErsatz1.jpg)
Stomping THROUGH the enemy seems a lot more dwarven-style to me, than flying over it.

Some of my heroes
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/King.jpg)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/KK_Wettbewerb2.jpg)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/km_crew_002.jpg)
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Runesmith_vorne_100dpi.jpg)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/koenigalrikv_100dpi75q.jpg)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/HT_Musiker01_100dpi100q.jpg)
(I think, according to Freud the last one does really have some problems with a little something ^^)


And for my Bugman-Regiment (which still is not finish) I got this one ... because after all, with dwarves it is always about one thing:
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/BugmansFass_4_klein_a.JPG)


So, these are some of my WHFB-dwarves. Though they were painted over a relatively long period (I learned a lot, while painting them) there are more or less all of the same painting-level.
I think ... I really did a good thing (from my point of view) to paint my first dwarves all one by one. I read many hints and tips about it, but never painted them in groups of five. So, from mini to mini I got more routine, not from regiment to regiment (that does not mean, that today I do not paint groups, too, but as said it does me a lot of good in these first early steps, I think).

The last entry in this first posting is my brewery, unfortunately it is still WIP, though it is about 4 to 6 years old °_O
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Brauerei_gesamt_Aufbauten_2.JPG)
... and NO, I do NOT want to talk about it being still WIP!  o_o

However, my dwarfs can rest after a hard days work - a little marker for ... whatever
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Lager_100dpi.jpg)
And believe it or not ... the fire place is an old decoration of a ring, INCLUDING the "schnitzles"! I admit it looks quite different BEFORE painting ^^


So ... these are minis from my age of WHFB. During this time I learned a lot about the basics of painting, though I seldom joined others for painting, the main reason being that I simply did not know, what kind of big network there was (and is) behind GW at that time.

I hope You enjoy the minis ... there is more to come from and with my Confrontation minis. As a conclusion, I think I am able to paint, but there is still much way to go! But - as I suppose it is with all of us - there are always some more unpainted miniatures in the locker, waiting for the brush!

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Braxandur on June 08, 2011, 10:42:32 AM
hiya and welcome :)

There are quite some nice pieces of work in there. You managed to make me really curious about you confrontation stuff. Will it also be mostly dwarfes, or some othe nice things?
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Dr.Falkenhayn on June 08, 2011, 10:59:08 AM
sehr schön!  :)Any Chronopia Dwarfs in yr Collection?
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Bloodysword on June 08, 2011, 11:12:41 AM
nice job! Ilike the vibrant colors of your dwarves. The banners are nicely done as well.
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Argonor on June 08, 2011, 11:56:33 AM
(I think, according to Freud the last one does really have some problems with a little something ^^)

They all have - otherwise it would be painful with those big boots.  lol
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 08, 2011, 12:13:49 PM
@ all
thanks a lot!

@ Bloodysword
a friend of mine always described them as "just robbed a bennetton store, eh?"

@ other minis

well, I have some griffons and cadwe minis from Rackham. With Chronopia I have some dwarves, too, but also a few FirstBorn and Elves.
Funny thing, that the dwarves in Chronopia are really something You have to get accustomed to, in general the minis -especially the dwarves - are just ... plain ugly ... However, I got accustom to it. ^^ Now I like them somehow.
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=43&g2_serialNumber=1)
(The monster is meant as a BloodTotem (just in case I will play chronopia-dwarves some day ^^), but the mini is from Hordes, with its face conversed to a pig, no greenstuff, just another pig-mini's head stuffed into the space of the old but erased face).

So, with Chronopia I often test colours and different highlights. I dipped the elves, and "hardcore-washed" some Firstborn archers.
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/51-2/photo-215-720c846d.jpg)
But comparing time and outcome it is really sort of impressive. Anyway - no serious damage, if something happens. There are also a few dwarves from the Warmachine-Mercs and some other producers. There are so many dwarves ... what can I do? Simple - need them all!

A few weeks ago I bought the sepia vallejo dip! It seems to be great stuff! It dries in about 3h and it is absolutely dim (dead, beamless, dull?) but I want to test it some more.

Recently I bought some minis from our Prof and LeadAdventure (which introduces me to brilliant steampunk-minis)! These I will show in my other thread ... when I managed to paint them, that is °_O

And finally I have a lot of female minis, which are REALLY great to force oneself for finer layers (cause of their skin). They will come ;)

This hobby sometimes is very consuming ^^
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=58&g2_serialNumber=2)

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: DeafNala on June 08, 2011, 01:29:16 PM
WELCOME ABOARD! That REALLY is a FINE way of introducing yourself...all VERY WELL DONE! Dwarves are such wonderful foes for my Goblins, that they have become favorite minis to paint...the Babes fit in the mix as the third type.
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 08, 2011, 05:36:50 PM
Thanks for Your welcome!

Yes, no matter what minis I buy "in between" - sooner or later some new dwarves are in my bags again.

Here I found some minis for my dwarven-steamer:
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=117&g2_serialNumber=1)
Originally it was a bloodbowl sequence from - heck, I forgot ... have to check it (via EDIT: Gazpez-Art) - with a maritime theme. So I convert it a little bit more and I am quite pleased with it. About a weekends work and they look quite right.
The mop is from a sci-fi eldar mini of 40k ... elven hair makes the best mops ever, I can assure ya! :D


Also these ones are from another producer (have to check that one, too °_O) and they REALLY look like dwarven scouts
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/80-1/Kundschafter_000.jpg)
With these minis I tried the washes extensively a second time (first were the Chronpia archers, pix will follow), then highlighting over the washes. Quit remarkable results, given the invested time. I git this idea from someone in another forum. He dipped some dwarves and worked on them afterwards. Most people stop after washing or dipping their minis, I think.
The picture is not that sharp, but up close they look somewhat like these fellows:
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/84-1/Kundschafter_2.JPG)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/86-1/Kundschafter_3.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/88-1/Kundschafter_4.JPG)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/90-1/Kundschafter_6.JPG)
As You might see (they are about a few months old) I tried this foundry-style of painting, but couldn't quite make it, or not at all. Anyway, I am pleased with them.
'Problem is, that I try to paint cool minis in a quick and easy way. This basically for some fellows from the club who have little time for painting, but want "cool, but quick painted" minis. I do not paint FOR them, but try to find out a way which I can explain AND show, that THEY can do it.

But these techniques - I think - make me "forget" how to paint really good, so from time to time, I press some others in between, like these ones:
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/60-2/Confro_Saeule_02.JPG)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/64-2/Mira01.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/66-2/Mira_02_Misericorde.JPG)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/62-2/Fiana_01.JPG)
Though I tried it three times to have her skin (the last one) well and ladylike enough I was not that happy with it, therefore I used it for some blood-splatter-experiments.
This one is another splatter-blade I tried later:
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/69-2/Blutklinge02.jpg)
If You look very close You can recognize some brain left on the blade lol

I have read so many times about this technique, but never tried it myself out of "fear" ruining my minis. But then I happen to be able to watch someone actually doing it. It took about 30seconds (promisse!). Could You believe it?
So, when I was home, I tried myself: a drop of Brown-Ink (P3), BloodRed (Vallejo Game Color) and relatively much water. Put in the brush, let it soak it up. Then hold it infront of the mine (shielding parts of the mini with some cover, where there should be no "blood"), then a short strong blow in direction of the mini and ... SPLATTER ... amazing!
To get the mixed colour of the blood, just mix two different levels of red/brown and blow it onto the blade/mini.

I think, the lady is my third try and the single blade my fifth one.

Actually one of the best tips I can give is MAKE MONSTER ZOOM pictures from Your minis. You can see all the dirty things You have done and were able to check on yourself. NO ONE is as merciless as close-ups from an incorruptable digital camera. If You can fool your DC You can fool anyone!

See here - seems to be a lovely Lady (the one from above):
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/54-2/Confro_Lady.JPG)
... but up close she looks like this!
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/56-2/Confro_Lady_closeupface.JPG)
... obviously the colour was tooo thick, or to many times over the same spot ... *sigh*

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 09, 2011, 11:11:06 AM
about Dipping!

I had read many things about it, but did not try it, until 1 or maybe 2 years ago. I choose to use some dwarves from this GW-partner-box (don't know the original name in English, in German it was the "Schadelpass-Box" ... skull-pass???) as a bloodbowl team:
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/134-1/SB_BB_D_nachher.JPG)
(I think the dwarven BloodBowl Runners might have misunderstood something or mixed up gunners and runners ... but hey, it's bloodbowl anyway)

I was amazed! I even did NOT fix any mistakes while painting, just to test, how it will come out - incredible!

Then I tried my original BloodBowl Team. Here I put a little more effort in it. I SWEAR, it was/is just ONE layer of colour!
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/127-1/BB_IronSnails_nachher.jpg)

Though I choose some stripes for their dresses, somehow reminding me for (on, at? damn ...) some US-football team I had in mind at the time. But nothing (NOTHING) with these little buggers is highlighted or anything. Later I painted some numbers on the shoulder-pads, but that is not seen here anyway. From this moment on, I decided finally to test some more about dipping and highlighting afterwards (actually using washes from GW before highlighting is into the same direction).
By the way: this is Old Ironfist with his clostes friend, his snail Lil'Kim  :-*
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/133-1/AndHisFriend.JPG)


Here is one exception: Cheerleader Kitty, called "the Nippels", I did a little bit of highlighting. But here You can see the gleaming effect from the dip.
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/137-1/Dwarven_Cheerleader.JPG)



Next I tried for some Chronopia Elves, which I wasn't THAT satisfied with.
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/49-2/DIP_Chronopia_001.JPG)
Why? The chainmail is painted with MithrilSilver, the ornamental belt is white ... and there is nearly no difference at all. So too bright is like white in a way, while obviously too dark (GW DarkAngelsGreen) makes no difference to the dip, too. The yellow came out quite good, but it's actually BronzedFlesh ... one of my favorite colours (makes a really good light-red with dark-red or blood-red! not as shiny/bright like yellow, but an earthy kind of red ... more of an highlight "used clothes"-red, if need be).

However, I painted all the elves that way for later testing
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/113-1/Chronopia_Elfen.JPG)

I went on with dip-testing on my chronopia dwarves
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/47-2/Chronopia_Zwerge.JPG)
The cupper/redgold-metall came out very good, easy & quick with good results. I learned a bit about choosing colours when dipping!

It's clear to take some lighter colours in general, but in addition, it seems important to have some high-contrast colours, too! Either Green/Red, etc. or very bright, very dark! Especially when You plan to highlight afterwards!

But it is not nessecary, if time is an important factor, and the colours were choosen carefully
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/73-2/Ork_gedippt_2h.JPG)
Beside nails and teeth, nothing is painted after dipping! Right now I am not sure about the tongue to be honest.


However - here is an example with to less contrast (but highlighting afterwards)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/92-1/Slayerin04.JPG)
After all ... to many brown-tones, to less contrast, neither with colours or brightness. Nice - but without the final edge on it, which would have been easily done, if I would have choosen the colours more carefuly.


So, with all this in mind, I tried these nice miniatures
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/122-1/Commonwealth_004.JPG)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/120-1/Commonwealth_001.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/124-1/Commonwealth_005.JPG)
Especially the last one is one of my favorites! I was very sceptical about the white and the dark-brown (GW scorched brown) with dipping, but after highlighting it anyway, it came out really cool. There are only few minis, I am content with - this is one (I am NOT content with the muscles from the first one of these three ... some mutant beneath the skin, it seems °_O, though I like his face)
Time spent and outcome  ... really cool! About two days evenings for a group of 5 Minis.

Well ... these are my experieces with dipping so far. Quite a good technique, if payed attention to some little thinking beforehand.

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Argonor on June 09, 2011, 04:22:47 PM
Should some pics appear in the last 2 posts, or ...   ???
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 09, 2011, 04:26:43 PM
actually yes ... but obviously they don't °_O

I'll check this out
...
damn ... this will take a day or two ... had to upload these pictures somewhere else than before °_O
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: thebinmann on June 09, 2011, 04:34:07 PM
 :-* :o
Breathtaking
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Faust23 on June 09, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
Very nice work! :-* :-* :-*

Welcome to what, IMO, are the nicest forums on the net.
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: phreedh on June 09, 2011, 10:04:00 PM
Drachenklinge, your pics are still not loading (for me). Please fix, I want to see all the goodies! =D
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 10, 2011, 06:11:30 AM
thanx for Your interest! But you can see the pix from the first post, right? I am working on the others ... maybe today or during the weekend ... I found a solution, but it will took a while.

Thanks *snif*
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Argonor on June 10, 2011, 06:36:13 AM
But you can see the pix from the first post, right?


Works for me, but the others at least show up as a broken pic link, now (red x).
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: phreedh on June 10, 2011, 08:42:40 AM
But you can see the pix from the first post, right?
Yep, the first post is fully illustrated. =) The more recent ones have red x icons the lot of them (except the one pic of bowmen in your second post). Linking to attachments on external boards is rarely a good thing. =D

You can upload pics to your user gallery here at LAF, btw...
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Argonor on June 10, 2011, 09:08:37 AM
You can upload pics to your user gallery here at LAF, btw...

Only if you are a contributing member, right (Supporting Adventurer)?
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: phreedh on June 10, 2011, 09:42:05 AM
Only if you are a contributing member, right (Supporting Adventurer)?
No, that restriction has been lifted.
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 10, 2011, 11:41:19 AM
restriction or not .. I think I wil use our own board, which should work quite well.

@ other Forum
the "general Galery" is quite useful for links and such, but lots of my stuff is included as an attachment, so I forgot that these attachments won't work for/as links without being regged, etc.

Sooner or later everyone needs its own server anyway ... hail thy, oh online!  :D

beste wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 10, 2011, 02:57:25 PM
so ... all sould be able to be seen been have gone ... don't tell me! I missed the lessons about tenses in English °_O

best wishes - hope You'll enjoy!
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: phreedh on June 10, 2011, 03:58:21 PM
Awesome! Thanks for posting it all again.
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 12, 2011, 09:35:06 AM
... last part of my fantasy-style "introduction" ^^

Here are some more of my confrontation minis ... sorry, but mostly dwarves again!

First I like to introduce someone to You! Kahinir, the wilde!
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/144-1/Kahinir2.jpg)
When Rackham f* up, I bought some more of these lovely miniatures, even, when I already had them (no one said I am rational, when it is about dwarves ^^)! So finally I ended up with some of these minis three times. But after all this gives me a great opportunity! I may paint ONE for gaming, the SECOND for testing, and the THIRD for show-case. However I am still testing. °_O

Here I tried another way of painting faces ... less contrast, however more layers, though. These are really two minis of the same model, no step1 step4 picture mixed up - just to be sure about it.
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/beide_Kahinir_4.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/146-1/Kahinir_kontrast1.jpg)
As You can see, the left face looks more smooth, but I think this is nothing for gaming, because - unlike the right one - this face is just a pink blob from afar. However, I am not quite satisfied with my faces (my face is ok, but not my faces ^^).

HirhKarn (the left one) is another great face of the Confro line (and a real tank in gaming when coming to that)!
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/hirhkan_001.jpg)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/148-1/kahinirbeard.jpg)
These pictures are in here cause of its beards. After painting so many beards (did I mentioned, me liking dwarven miniatures?) I stumbled over a volume of Rackham's "CryHavoc" (think, it was #3), which is more or less the "White Dwarf" of Rackham, where there was a great step-by-step illustration of painting Kahinir. I started to copy it, but so far, only beard and face again got some attention:
But I realized that even for beards, highlighting is something more tricky. Here I tried (hope You can see it, cause I still have to work on my photgraphing skills) to highlight just the sides (sideburns?) and the chin strand/streak. It looks far more lively than highlighting the complete beard.


But on to some other dwarves
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/bombardenheld.jpg)
I am actually not satisfied with its gloves ... they look more like some modern rubber-cleaning-gloves °_O NOT what I intended. ^^ But it is WIP anyway. Sometimes I am a really slow painter. I will keep the gloves though. Maybe he got some cleaning-work with his WC to do at home ...


This one I really like, and in addition recently I discovered a great use for it in Confro! So, I can list it more often!
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/priester_des_uren.jpg)

I am not sure if there is a phrase for luck in connection with pigs ... but in Germany there is ... "lucky-pig", some sort of "lucky-charm". Here it is. And as You all know, luck is very important while gaming. ^^
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/priester_des_uren_schwein.jpg)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/priester_des_uren_02.jpg)

One of the few dwarven lady in nearly every system - unfortunately. Dwarves have such great possibility to get around these small, slender women steroetype.
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/gesamt_001.jpg)
For makeup I discovered just a while ago, that it is great to mix some skin-colour into the makeup-colour (maybe I should have asked some women, but heck ... I hate this "what are you talking about"-look, when talking to outsiders). I used it a few times now, and was quite comfortable with it.

More male dwarves:
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Khor_6.JPG)(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Khor_Kav_quer_3.JPG)
The experiment with NMM just did not work well enough. Had to put more effort in it.

Some so called ThermoWarriors, WIP on these pictures, but the bird and the lamp is finish, meanwhile.
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/beide_Thermo.JPG)


Here are some other examples for the great faces of the confro-dwarves, some still WIP
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/SdE_5.JPG)
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/SdE_6.JPG)
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/SdE_3.JPG)

I should try more attention to the skin-colour of lips, noses and mabye cheeks
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/SdE_Gesicht_klein_a.JPG)

Like I tried here:
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/Musiker_2_klein_b.JPG)

And to the end some non-dwarven minis from Rackham
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/cadweminotaurin.jpg)
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/hund_001.jpg)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/159-1/Molosser.JPG)


Last but not least I am working on these things - various WIPs:
(http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/2/4/6/9/tnb_panzerwagen_gesamt_03_co.jpg)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/169-1/Studie_Panzerung004.JPG)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/171-1/Lafette003.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/155-1/Holzplanken.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/167-1/BrahynWIP.jpg)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/166-1/Zeitgnome002.JPG)

As I said before I am quite satisfied with my way of painting for tabletop and gaming, but there is a long way to go for showcase (no competition, just for me, myself and I). However, I realized that it is far more easier for me, to do this with other miniatures, because with dwarves I "have my way", and the "routine" with them somehow blocks me. Therefore I am looking forward to my SteamPunks "RoyalMajestys Gentlemen" from LeadAdventure and my "in between" female miniatures.

So ... this is it for the moment, hope You liked my sort of introduction. I am also looking forward to many intersting threads in here, with subjects of gaming of almost everything!

best wishes from Germany
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: white knight on June 12, 2011, 11:07:50 AM
That's looking great! Must be an impressive sight when looked at from the proper distance. :)
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Argonor on June 13, 2011, 01:26:51 PM
I saw your comments on lips, and for 'natural' (no lipstick), I usually recommend using a tiny bit of red mixed into the (main) skin colour. And when painting a closed mouth, either with or without lipstick, always paint the lower lip lighter (I think you did that on the last female, too?). Unless the face is upside down, of course, which might happen with some 'victim' minis...   ::)
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 14, 2011, 07:10:06 AM
I suppose with my mini it was more of an accident, but You brought it to the point - the upper lip darker due to the shadow.

As for the colour, I was very comfortable with these pink and violet colours. With red I always get this "slutty"-look. Most likely my fault (whatever THAT means ^^), maybe I shuld try some darker red, but the pink-direction looks more like makeup ... for the time being anyway. However, there are lots of females waiting ... miniatures, I mean ... although ... well  lol

best wishes
Drachenklinge

Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Little Odo on June 14, 2011, 11:00:35 PM
Some lovely brush work there Drachenklinge. It is nice to see how others' results from "the dip" turn out too. Mine are a mixed bunch, but the system sure means you can paint quicker (I paint more slowly than a glacier on moggedon).
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Thantsants on June 14, 2011, 11:36:37 PM
Woah - crazy dwarfs!  :D

Cracking stuff - your scratchbuilt iron clad caught my eye in particular - contemplating something similar for a little project of mine...
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 15, 2011, 07:20:46 AM
thanks for the compliments!

@ Thantsants
well, meanwhile there is muchprogress, but I am stuck at a certain point of the upper deck, anyway. But I have lots of pics (in another German-forum) from that, too, maybe I will post them.

However - I have seen some ship- and other scratchbuild-threads in LAF, bookmarked them ... quite great things in here to get some ideas!

best whishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on July 04, 2011, 11:30:18 AM
Some new minis, because I wanted to test someting with these washes from GW again. I discussed something with a pal from the club, and I thought this combination might turn out good enough for gaming.

These are Mid-Nors from Rackham's Confrontation ... Mids are somewhat from the dark side of their dwarven brethren from Tir-Na-Bor. Or maybe chaos-dwarves of some sort.
 
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/340-1/MidNor002.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/342-1/MidNor003.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/344-1/MidNor004.JPG)

Also I did some tests with something I found here in the forum ... some tutorial about a corrosion effect on iron weapon... it also turned out quite well. So, here is a close-up from the corrosion effect on the halbards:
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/346-1/Rost_MidNorHellebarden.JPG)

These 3 took me about 5h alltogether (speed was part of the discussion). And I think, that the process might by speeded up (?) even more, 'cause I highlighted a few things, which might not be necessary if "washed" with more precission.

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Argonor on July 04, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
What exactly were you trying out with the washes?
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on July 04, 2011, 01:16:10 PM
oh ... well ... yes ^^
it is not quite well to see. I tried the skin with it. Painted on a relatively light priming ... with some very light green (PaleFlesh) and very light blue (I think, it is LightSeaGray or something ...), ElfSkinTone and somehting lighter than BleachedBone for the hair and ElfSkinTone again for the the sewn close sacrs.
All of it washed with ThrakaGreen and/or AzurmenBlue ... then deepened again the GreenWash with BlueWash and vice versa. Afterwards I BaalRed-ed the Scars.

Maybe another pic with better light will show the "trick" ...

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Sinewgrab on July 04, 2011, 10:28:58 PM
An good trend showing there. Beautiful work - I have always worked with washes over base coat, and then retouch colors, but I think I going to give wetblending a go with my next army.  Admirable work you have here though.
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on July 05, 2011, 11:49:08 AM
funny ...  ^^

Though I am not much into wetblending, I always wanted to try. But now - since seeing this (in my opinion) advanced foundry-style in here or from the Prof himself - I really want to try it that way. In my other "be there often"-forum (in German) nearly every hint or tip or suggestion is: thinner, more layers, try wetblending, look here, etc. ... but I realized, that minis painted that wetblending-way just have much too much of attention, so it is hard to use them on the battlefield. However, I am still into this technique, when it comes to female minis. These NEED softer layers and such. So I still can increase my skill with females  ;D

So ... one of MY gaols is to master this foundry-style more and get away from this wetblending-way/style ... funny ^^


best wishes and thanx again for all these compliments!
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Longbottom Leaf on July 09, 2011, 06:25:16 PM
Beautiful work all around!  :-*
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on July 12, 2011, 03:13:41 PM
some tests with skin colour
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/350-2/3Grazien.JPG)

The pinky whitebread to the left worked best, due to more training with that colour, I guess. But I like the dark-skinned one, too. The "Asian-style" seems tro be a little to yellow in a way. But then ... for tabletop it is ok, I guess. Makes it more distinct. hair and snakes are still WIP. 'Not sure, what do do with them. I could train some scale-patterns ... uhm ... well ... no plan ...

The minis itself is some old blister from confro. Nor rules for this one, just three each-alike-add-on-pillars as markers or such.

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on July 18, 2011, 11:52:19 AM
the story goes on ...

due to some testing, I thought this model might be great to hard-core use the washes even more! At least for the "water-parts" of the model. It is a water-elemental from Confro.
I used the GW-washes (mainly blue and green for the water) over the white primer! and ogryn after sepia for the "coraline" parts over something like komando-khaki.
Also I used some P3 (warmachine series) inks (blue and green) for deepening the waterly effect.

Finally I brushed over the lighter and more untouched parts with simple white ... for wave-foaming effects.

(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/359-1/Water_Elemental_001.JPG)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/361-1/Water_Elemental_002.JPG)(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/363-1/Water_Elemental_003.JPG)

I am thinking about making just the water-parts glossy ... not sure at the moment, though.

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: DeafNala on July 19, 2011, 12:37:29 PM
Both the Pillar Chicks & the Water Elemental are VERY COOL & WELL DONE!
I'd offer my opinion on the gloss coat for the water, but I can't decide either...I will gush over your decision whichever way you go .
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on July 20, 2011, 12:15:10 PM
thanks! I am very pleased with that one, too. It turned out rather well.

I think, I WILL try it in glossy-style for the watery-parts. The crusted shell should stay, I think. Even if it's just for the contrast. And I think, sprayed wetness from the "waves" will not have any good effect in that size.

thanks again & best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Brummie on July 20, 2011, 12:46:13 PM
Those are some really intense paintjobs! Nice going! Really impressive!
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on February 27, 2012, 07:04:33 PM
so ... while working on "the 6th league" I've done some other bloody jobs (to relax ^^), too. I tried some massive blood-splatter on my Iron-Guard from Chronopia's FirstBorn.

(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/375-2/IronGuard01.JPG)
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/378-2/IronGuard02.JPG)
I think, I overdid it with one of the champions to the right (VERY bloody battle), but since it's a dark-fantasy system anyway - maybe it is not so bad at all. ^^

I have done it with Brown-Ink (P3) and simple BloodRed (Vallejo) and lots of water. And I did NOT use any Tamia-red, since the glossy effect from that one won't work, because I use matt-varnish after finishing the minis, anyway.
The technique I used is a very wet/soaked color on the brush, then blow/puff it on the mini. Though it is tricky to control, it is a very random splatter in all results.  lol
I also used these minis, because they are good ones to train this splatter-technique, because ... whatever one can do to these minis will only improve them ;)

best wishes
Drachenklinge
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on May 15, 2012, 07:56:46 AM
oh, well ... just to the end of last week I finished my last team for the LPL6 ... obviously a little bit too late :?
But maybe You still like to see them

here it is, my "leaving Jack Sparrow"  :D
(http://gallery.stuttgarter-wahnzinn.de/d/384-1/LeavingJackSparrow.jpg)

hope You like the little ones - I even had ships  :'(     ... although not two teams ^^

best wishes
DK

PS
as You can see, this beach now is a very busy one  lol
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: DeafNala on May 15, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
What TERRIFIC Little Characters! It's a shame you missed out on the LPL; I'm sure the Vertically Challenged Pirates would have done well. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Ninja on May 15, 2012, 07:32:31 PM
I am really diggin this thread!
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Bodok on May 15, 2012, 08:02:57 PM
What a pity, you missed the LPL closing date.

But I like these little ones!  :)
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on January 05, 2013, 11:06:37 AM
so ... another add for my Kinderstube, since I managed this little fellow ... er ... ess

I guess it could be a good idea to add a door as a shield (to hide behind), huh? ^^

(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/RatnikZwergin01.JPG)

She is the first of my Ratniks dwarves I bought last year and which I had the time to paint during December.

best wishes
DK
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: DeafNala on January 05, 2013, 12:39:59 PM
WELCOME BACK!
Your new Dwarven Babe is a BEAUTY...you haven't lost your touch with the brush & the base is OUTSTANDING. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Thantsants on January 06, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
Wow - she looks like a force of nature!

I think a pudding bowl as a shield would be fun  ;)
Title: Re: Drachenklinge's Kinderstube
Post by: Drachenklinge on May 05, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
Like to share something ... first a (so far) well done face ... I am really fond of it ... from that distance
(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/crossbowess_WIP.JPG)

But with a closer look ... urks ...
(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/crossbowess_face_WIP.JPG)

Like I always say ... "eyes" are not the problem ... just the second one is, guess which is which  o_o


But here ... I wanted to show this for quite a while, but happen to make some pictures today! Here I am happy with the complete face, through and all. But faces of three-hundred year old dwarfs maybe are a little bit easier to paint ...
(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/TNB_Face2_01.JPG)
(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/TNB_Face2_02.JPG)(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/TNB_Face2_03.JPG)

and I am especially happy with this one:
(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/TNB_Face_01.JPG)
(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/TNB_Face_02.JPG)(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/TNB_Face_03.JPG)

Some details need some more attention, but I am a little bit afraid of going on with these minis here, cause somehow I am anxious not to ruin anything.  :?


And I also wanted to show my recent doings:
(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/AoW_Slayer_01.JPG)
(http://archive.fabrikhof.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/AoW_BronzeShields_01.JPG)


I realized, that in recent years, I do less and less like to paint masses of minis at once, say "regiments" in an (within my own skills) "experienced" level of painting ... masses somehow tend to slip my carefulness in painting. Or maybe I am just "developing" different styles of my own painting? I am not sure. Somehow I think on one hand I came to a level of painting, but on the other hand do not want to use it for ALL of my minis. Dunno how to express that in a better way.

best wishes
Drachenklinge