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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: ErikB on June 14, 2011, 05:47:35 PM
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Hi All,
Here's my first pass at a Crusader Tractor. I have not done the treads yet and am seriously considering rewriting the text as it falls downhill.
Any ideas for further markings and/or weathering would be greatly appreciated!
There is still a lot to do with it.
Vielen Dank!
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Although I'm normally a fan of all things Quar, I can't decide if I like this Cheesewheel thingie. All that open space around the sprockets looks kind of weird.
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It does look a little odd but I can get used to it. It's meant to be a pedrail system, not treads. Not sure how that's supposed to work so I'm not sure how it's supposed to look.
The design actually "feels" (in my hand) pretty good as a turretless tank or an assault gun. The non-flat track base probably gets it over lots of different terrain types.
Besides, it's hard to design an original retro-sci-fi tank WITH CHARACTER. I think Zombiesmith has done a great job with it. Now if my painting could only do them justice....
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I love the Quar and I think it looks cool. I think you painting is just fine too.
Mike
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While the openness may seem strange, I was inspired by this, which I fell in love with:
(http://hornsbycrawler.org/uploads/Main/old_photo_01.jpg)
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Not sure about this...
(http://pbr1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Erik_Buchholz/509792660_photobucket_23235_.jpg)
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PS - Hi, Josh!
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I picked up one of these tanks at Kubla con. I am not sure how to paint it either. I was going to make the gun metallic, rather then painted.
I like yours but while the camo pattern is well done, I am not sure where the terrain is tan and Blue. Venus/dessert? lol
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Try adding a couple more colours into the camo scheme. At the moment it's a bit too sparse - maybe adding a reddish-brown and a green might help, like on the Stormtrooper helmet camo. I love that angular "WW1" camo look though and I think it fits in perfectly with the tank and the whole Quar thing :D
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I picked up one of these tanks at Kubla con. I am not sure how to paint it either. I was going to make the gun metallic, rather then painted.
I like yours but while the camo pattern is well done, I am not sure where the terrain is tan and Blue. Venus/dessert? lol
::) Try a WW2 desert setting :
(http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/Armoured%20Vehicles/Images/Matilda02.jpg)
more pics : http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/Armoured%20Vehicles/matildaattankfestph_1.htm (http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/Armoured%20Vehicles/matildaattankfestph_1.htm)
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No wonder Rommel's chaps had such fun early on in the war lol
That's a cool design though - very much like the naval "dazzle" schemes. Probably designed with the same theory behind it - break up the shape of the vehicle in a very flat featureless terrain.
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Zizi, that's kinda what I had in mind but I wanted to do it in an orginal way, Quarified, as I see it.
Maybe a darker blue might make sense. Some more shapes, some of which overlap the tan.
I'm really frustrated - it just doesn't look right to me and I cannot imagine how to fix this.
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Zizi, that's kinda what I had in mind but I wanted to do it in an orginal way, Quarified, as I see it.
Maybe a darker blue might make sense. Some more shapes, some of which overlap the tan.
I'm really frustrated - it just doesn't look right to me and I cannot imagine how to fix this.
I'd stick with the blue. Maybe you could try to loose the black lines (or make 'em finer) and extend the tan parts.
In your second pic everything comes out more natural because of the larger tan area, while on the other photo's they look like tan fields painted on top of the blue rather than being part of a camouflage pattern. :?
my 2cts.
P.S. I wish ppl stopped posting Quar stuff . I've got too much other projects with the associated oversized heap of lead already and these Quars are beckoning me more and more (specialy since I found out they excist in 15mm too) ;)
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I was bitten by the Quar. Now they're my favorite (and my wife's and my 3 year-old's who compares them to Dr. Suesse's Starbellied Sneeches).
They're a little tough to paint as the detail is not sculpted as deep and pronounced as, say, GW's, but they're full of character and charm. And they're certainly well made. Zombiesmith did an excellent job.
You'd do alright with a command squad and a regular squad for both Royalists and Crusaders. That's 32 minis (plus the animals that come with). :o)
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I added another blue and the first muddy wash. I think the only thing that looks any better is the rubber treads, though....
Time for some highlighting.
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The photos on the last post did not show up. I am glad you are showing your work. I am still stumped on how to paint mine. Maybe I will VSF it up and add a smoke stack and a big dramatic flag. Then wonder why tht Camoflage does not work?
Quar are very cool figures. My own force is mostly the partisan types, with a few deserters to quar the crew served weapons. Still WIP, or more correctly W...............I.................P.
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I added another blue and the first muddy wash. I think the only thing that looks any better is the rubber treads, though....
I think you're too hard on yourself (then again, aren't we all...)
That's a fine job on those tracks. Now that I look at it, I think that was one of the problems in the first pics, too much black.
with the addition of the blue-grey everything seems to fit.
I'm getting a real WW1 vibe from this one :)
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The camera flash makes the dark paint look REALLY dark. In normal lighting there is less contrast. I used a brown, gray, and very little black for the wash.
And that rubber is less brown in person, too. Photographing minis is truly its own art form.
Can you guys really see the second color blue? I can barely discern it, myself.
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The actual paint job looks great. The camo has improved the tractor a great deal. But somehow I feel like it is missing something. I think adding some sort of detail, may help. Maybe adding an open hatch or a rolled up tarp on top, it just needs something other than painted armour and tank tracks.
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The actual paint job looks great. The camo has improved the tractor a great deal. But somehow I feel like it is missing something. I think adding some sort of detail, may help. Maybe adding an open hatch or a rolled up tarp on top, it just needs something other than painted armour and tank tracks.
Well, while that would add some character, the tarp on top seems nearly impossible seeing the size of the (only) hatch.
(I was actualy thinking in the line of an unditching beam as seen on WW1 Mk IV or V tanks)
the open hatch suggestion would be cool... and add extra conversion & paint work. ::)
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Yes, your right, the size of the model, does leave limited scope for customising. But it still needs something, it just looks looks "too oval", there is just something missing, some small eye-catching detail that would make it "pop", as they say.
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maybe an MG for the commander ?
Also, just now I noticed there's no exhaust pipe...
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I'm feeling a bit better about it after the highlighting. Note to self - don't wash with this much cold/black next time....
(http://pbr1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Erik_Buchholz/509792660_photobucket_24042_.jpg)
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Now it really pops! Looks very good. What did you highlight with, just standard lighter versions of colors or something else?
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Whatever you did, it looks a lot nicer. I think I need a side by side (top on botttom) before and after photo to really see the difference. But from what I can tell, you did white/light drybrush over the whole thing (except the tracks). Am I right?
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Lovely !
1 suggestion : put some sooth on the end of the gun barrel to indicate it saw some action.
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Now it really pops! Looks very good. What did you highlight with, just standard lighter versions of colors or something else?
I used spacewolves gray for highlighting. I did both edges and flat surfaces. That's all.