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Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Vanvlak on 06 November 2007, 07:53:37 AM
Hi all,
time for a new, old adventure, and (discounting Mordheim) the start of my progress in this adventuring lark.
And where else to begin than in Borneo? And it ends in Venice.

Many, many (TOO many) years ago the Italian TV stations produced a series based on Emilio Salgari's character Sandokan, a pirate king known as the Tiger of Momprachem. The books by Salgari and the series (and a sequel) presented Sandokan, his Portuguese advernturer friend Yanez de Gomeira, a handful of allies including a native hunter, several notorious pirates, freedom fighters and an Indian prince. His enemy was Lord James Brooke of Sarawak, also known as Rajah Brooke, who included amongst his allies several British and Bornean officers, a few useful traitors, and (at least in the 2nd TV series) a treacherous Greek who could easily take on Indy with a whip.
The interesting bit is that Brooke really existed, and I was lucky enough to bag an oldish book about him (portraits and all) for less than 3 Euros in a book sale. Sandokan was a creation of the Italian author Salgari, a character who combines all the good traits (and none of the bad) of the various pirates and chiefs opposing Brooke.
Salgari himself was practially left pennyless by his publishers, in spite of considerable success (especially in S. America), and ended up committing suicide. Another historical link - apparently Che Guevara was inspired by Salgari's stories of Sandokan and the Black Pirate (another Salgari character, one for the swashbucklers).
In my setting, Sandokan and Brooke will clash time and again in Borneo, India (the settings of the books and TV series) and several other places as well. Why Venice (in the title)? Well, I'd like an aged Sandokan and a doddering Brooke to end up in one of the cities I love the most, in the Med, which is where I live, and where Sandokan will meet an Italian author by the name of E. Salgari.....

The models:
Well, still lagging here, but a good friend who'd known about this project brought me some Foundry stuff from the Indian Mutiny and Colonial ranges, and amongst them are an excellent Sandokan, Yanez (ironically, amongst the colonials), Brooke and a younger British officer. The rest will be Sandokan's friends and allies andBrooke's henchmen. I need to add more of course, and what a cast there is to fill: wildmen of Borneo, native troops, pirates, villagers, British troops, Indian mutineers, adventurers from Europe... and eventually, Venetians.
Not forgetting my wargaming background, I also have a tiny  Aeronef for my VSF stuff, and am plannign a fleet of sorts ranging from Malaysian Prahus to ACW-style monitors.
The journey to Venice of course offers many possibilities - foremost in my mind are Chomolungma, Istanbul, Heraklion and Birgu (in Malta). ANd I'd like a run in with the USN in the Med. And a trip to Morocco, to meet a young  Mulai Ahmed er-Raisuni (the Wind and the Lion). The latter "had been arrested by the Pasha of Tangier, Abd-el-Rahman Abd-el-Saduk (his distant relative), and chained to a wall for four years, until he was released by sympathetic guards." to quote no less an authority than Wikipedia. Sympathetic guards? Pshaw! it was Sandokan and Yanez disguised as guards!

The rules:
ah, yes... so far I've got the old G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T. and the Fire and Steel rules, not to mention Legends of the West which could be adopted in the later part of the adventure (Gunfight at Knossos, anyone?). But I'm fishing around for new stuff, with T&T in mind.

There you are. If you're interested I can try to dig up a link to one of the Sandokan books in full, but it's in Italian. And someone in Italy had also posted rules for Sandokan and co. for skirmishes, if I manage to find them again.
Open to suggestions, ladies and gents.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Malamute on 06 November 2007, 08:21:19 AM
Wow :o  What a fantastic sounding project. Lots of photos please :)
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Vanvlak on 06 November 2007, 08:27:28 AM
An overambitious one, if you ask me....
Nothing to show for it so far, although my first version of S is almost ready.

For the VSF people, here's Sandokan's Cutlass Spar class 'Parang' of Aeronef, from Brigade. The flag shown here (oversize, if anything!) is taken from some depiction of Sandokan's flag, a tiger head on a red field.

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/VSF%20Aeronef/DSCF1732.jpg)


In my 28mm scale stuff I'll be leaving the SF out - or at least, most of it. I might not resist Yetis on Chomolungma.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Argonor on 06 November 2007, 11:23:00 AM
Remember that series - was shown on German television a couple of times back ine the late 70's, methinks. Very adventury!
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: PeteMurray on 06 November 2007, 12:38:50 PM
Excellent! I read English translations of Sandokan and "The Black Pirate", and they were quite fun. They're excellent fodder for regular skirmish games and I like what you have planned. The idea of rescuing Raisuni is particularly great! Big thumbs up on that one.

If you're going to be cavorting around the Med, perhaps Sandokan can be in pursuit of some fantastic Templar artifact, maybe stolen by the Black Pirate and hidden away in a previous century. You're more likely to encounter the Brits in the Med than the USN. Maybe Brooke is some sort of naval attache at that point? Also, if you're slightly fuzzy on the years involved, The Great White Fleet could be sailing around the world at the same time that Sandokan passes through there, and that might be a good way to get into an encounter with them.

If you're looking for new rules, you might want to check out "The Sword and the Flame" and "The Sword in Africa" (the latter is more for small unit actions). I might even humbly suggest .45 Adventures for some of the very small actions, but I'm not exactly an objective observer on those rules. :roll:

Very neat Nef, too.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Plynkes on 06 November 2007, 01:27:53 PM
Flashman says that Rajah Brooke had no penis, having lost it in a fight with Dyak pirates, as I recall.

Strangely enough, the Wikipedia entry on Brooke makes no mention of this.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Geudens on 06 November 2007, 04:07:31 PM
The Sandokan series (and sequel "the return of...") were available on dvd, at least in Belgium.  Not sure if this is still the case.

Rudi
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Hammers on 06 November 2007, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: "Plynkes"
Flashman says that Rajah Brooke had no penis, having lost it in a fight with Dyak pirates, as I recall.

Strangely enough, the Wikipedia entry on Brooke makes no mention of this.


There is a footnote refering to this in Flashman's Lady, but the note says it was a social rumor.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Vanvlak on 06 November 2007, 09:47:05 PM
Thanks Pete; the Americans were inserted as Old Ironsides herself (USS Constitution)had been touring the Med - she even made it to Malta. So it should be no big deal to have a US ship around.
The RN would have to be featured of course - and Brook could even be stationed on a certain small island in the middle of the Med....
The dates will be fuzzed over; and the Black Pirate link sounds good  8)

As for the rules - thanks - I'll take a look starting with .45  :wink:

As regards the - ah - endowments or lack of, there's funnily no mention of this issue in Brooke's biography....  :roll:
Title: Re: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 07 November 2007, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: "Vanvlak"


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The rules:
ah, yes... so far I've got the old G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T. and the Fire and Steel rules, not to mention Legends of the West which could be adopted in the later part of the adventure (Gunfight at Knossos, anyone?). But I'm fishing around for new stuff, with T&T in mind.

There you are. If you're interested I can try to dig up a link to one of the Sandokan books in full, but it's in Italian. And someone in Italy had also posted rules for Sandokan and co. for skirmishes, if I manage to find them again.
Open to suggestions, ladies and gents.



The Sword & the Flame is very good for large-scale Victorian gaming, especially using the "800Fighting Englishmen" variant. There is a supplement specifically intended to game Rajah Brooke's exploits available here:

http://fauxtoys.com/tvag/079-rules.html#TKATF

This lets you integrate naval craft in with 15mm land games, but is easily converted to 28mm. I have a copy & it's very good indeed.

There is also another ship/land supplement " Breechloaders & Boilers", intended for riverine/coastal gaming in 28mm, which is also well worth having:

http://fauxtoys.com/tvag/079-rules.html#Boilers%20And%20Breechloaders

There is also an "unofficial" supplement available free on the web for adding landships etc, whose name escapes me for the moment :(

I'd recommend the whole TSATF system for colonial gaming, as it's a great deal of fun easy to learn & simple.

I love simple


 :lol:
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Hammers on 07 November 2007, 11:19:18 AM
Eureka makes sarawaks/dayaks if you need native headhunters.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Vanvlak on 07 November 2007, 11:25:19 AM
Thanks GM and Hammer;
a supplement on Brooke himself! Now THAT is something to look into. Nice find, GM. Thanks for the tip-off.
Eureka - will take a peek. Sounds good stuff. Thanks Hammer.
Lots to do!
Trouble is, this project won't get into top gear before January - I'm writing my PhD and hoping to get it done by then, hence the ultra-low state of modelling productivity.
cheers,
john
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Vanvlak on 17 November 2007, 08:13:55 AM
ANd some progress in model stuff, at long last.
Mr. Sandokan himself, after a spot of rough and tumble, I dare say.
Foundry miniature from the Indian Mutiny range.

http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/2007/11/sandokan-revealed.html
I'll be making another Sandokan in different garb for different occasions - probably.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: warrenpeace on 20 November 2007, 02:28:08 AM
Quote from: "Plynkes"
Flashman says that Rajah Brooke had no penis, having lost it in a fight with Dyak pirates, as I recall.


Ah, Flashman!  What a great source for Victorian history.  Essential to read Flashman's Lady (that's the right one isn't it?) for a different perspective on Rajah Brooke before launching this kind of project.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Chairface on 20 November 2007, 03:11:08 AM
Definitely. My view of Brooke is positive, from not only what I know of him historically, but from his description in Flashman's Lady. Its interesting and a bit startling to think of him as a villain.

Btw, does anyone make a Brooke miniature? And if not, why not? :)
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Vanvlak on 20 November 2007, 07:06:46 AM
Quote from: "Chairface"
Definitely. My view of Brooke is positive, from not only what I know of him historically, but from his description in Flashman's Lady. Its interesting and a bit startling to think of him as a villain.

Btw, does anyone make a Brooke miniature? And if not, why not? :)

Not specifically Brooke. I was pleased to find a version which looks like the older Brooke from the TV series (the actor is the one who played the SPECTRE boss in James Bond: Thunderball) - but not the younger Brooke from the portrait.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Lowtardog on 20 November 2007, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: "Vanvlak"
Thanks GM and Hammer;
a supplement on Brooke himself! Now THAT is something to look into. Nice find, GM. Thanks for the tip-off.
Eureka - will take a peek. Sounds good stuff. Thanks Hammer.
Lots to do!
Trouble is, this project won't get into top gear before January - I'm writing my PhD and hoping to get it done by then, hence the ultra-low state of modelling productivity.
cheers,
john



Scheltrum also make a range of Dyaks, boats, dyak houses and British Naval landing parties
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: pierrebi on 26 February 2008, 01:22:33 PM
maybe can be of interest to somebody here in the forum:

A new "The Adventures Sandokan" comics (Art by Sergio Toppi (one of the greatest cartoonist in the world) and script by Claudio Nizzi) is published in Italy.
(http://www.neurocomix.it/UserFiles/Image/Sandokan_pag2.jpg)

a special subscription for the complete serie here: http://www.stpauls.it/abbonamenti/specialegi/index.asp

war is cruel / and man knows how war is
love is warm and tender / and man knows how love is
a thunder descends from the sky  / all around a great sound,
The seed is steming from the plant / the big tree is now singing
blood is flowing in the veins / during the night an hot wind is raising
Sandokan Sandokan / yellow sun gives me strength
Sandokan Sandokan / give me strength every day
Every night you will give me ... courage
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Vanvlak on 26 February 2008, 01:38:27 PM
This looks good - thanks pierrebi. Those are the lyrics of the title song of the series, right?
Coincidentially, I have just returned to this lot of models :)
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: DeWolfe on 27 February 2008, 04:52:28 AM
Is there an English edition of the comics available? Unfortunatley my language skills are pathetic; I can't even speak English properly...nor spell it for that matter...and grammer! Don't get me started on grammer (my teachers never could)!
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Argonor on 27 February 2008, 08:24:54 PM
Quote from: "DeWolfe"
Is there an English edition of the comics available? Unfortunatley my language skills are pathetic; I can't even speak English properly...nor spell it for that matter...and grammer! Don't get me started on grammer (my teachers never could)!


I thik it's 'grammar'  :wink:  sorry, couldn't resist it  :)
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: DeWolfe on 27 February 2008, 08:30:11 PM
See, I told you! I'm not even monolingual!
lol.
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Argonor on 27 February 2008, 08:35:20 PM
Heheh... We have all kinds of English-writers in here, so don't feel you have to live up to anything. As long as the meaning is clear, no-one will lift an eyebrow - otherwise, they might ask what in Poughkepsie's name you're talking about  :)
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: pierrebi on 28 February 2008, 10:02:47 AM
Quote from: "DeWolfe"
Is there an English edition of the comics available? Unfortunatley my language skills are pathetic; I can't even speak English properly...nor spell it for that matter...and grammer! Don't get me started on grammer (my teachers never could)!

It is a new comic ... maybe someone will translate in english or in french, but the subject "Salgari's Sandokan" is not very international, so maybe you should use google to translate it by yourself!
Title: Borneo to Venice, 1830-1890 - Sandokan
Post by: Hammers on 28 February 2008, 11:42:36 AM
Quote from: "Argonor"
Quote from: "DeWolfe"
Is there an English edition of the comics available? Unfortunatley my language skills are pathetic; I can't even speak English properly...nor spell it for that matter...and grammer! Don't get me started on grammer (my teachers never could)!


I thik it's 'grammar'  :wink:  sorry, couldn't resist it  :)


Oh, that's cruel. :-)
Title: Rajah brooke
Post by: skirmishman on 29 February 2008, 08:22:51 PM
Is this rajah brooke character or could he be the inspiration for James mason role in Lord Jim have not seen the film for ages .But I,m sure there is an english pirate in that.