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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Papa Spanky on 04 August 2011, 06:11:31 PM
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A bunch, actually, so I made some! I got the idea from this thread:
frocks (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24709.msg304134#msg304134)
I modified it slightly by using vinyl spackle (its more flexible) and adding PVA to the mix. To paint them I experimented with paints while they were wet, and woodland scenics earth tones when they were dry. for a bit more durability, they were sealed with a water based matte varnish afterward.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VPC4Jf9Ixp0/TjrGB8VFP7I/AAAAAAAAAS8/1n9oYNvcwj4/s1600/stones+1.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cQ-mOFj7Bw4/TjrGKFeFTYI/AAAAAAAAATA/UgLrwd9xq_0/s1600/stones+2.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jHFQCfEgAnM/TjrGL_DPDbI/AAAAAAAAATE/hTOcjGlya6U/s1600/stones+3.jpg)
Of course, I also had to experiment with other ways to change or improve this idea, because thats what I do :)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0Z4_t8_ZHWg/TjrHToA-yxI/AAAAAAAAATI/5ciOMAv2BUU/s1600/stones+4.jpg)
This is the above technique, just with heavy amounts of wall spackle in places. Works well, just not as durable.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-s4skwn-RJXw/TjrHU5-vHtI/AAAAAAAAATM/mEo-KnqJO6A/s1600/stones+5.jpg)
This one was coated in cheap white paintable caulk. Two coats, Mcfly.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fiV2WnpaB8Y/TjrHWbZwCDI/AAAAAAAAATQ/dUDca7n76q0/s1600/stones+6.jpg)
The result? A super flexible rock that can be literally thrown against the wall without damage.
The only downside is that caulk and the scenics pigments diddnt hit it off together; I had to use paint and drybrushing to get it even remotely looking like a rock.
thats all for now, Rock out with your... rock out.
Papa Spanky
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Looks great! And durable! :)
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Looks great! And durable! :)
I agree, looks great!
Say, Belgian, would you know what this top coat stuff is called in dutch?
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Great stuff... I was scrolling down the pictures thinking "Oh look, rocks" until you squeezed one with your finger! :D
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YPU, I couldn't find anything specific, i found it called pliester -a generic plaster term im guessing. Its called joint compoint, drywall compound, spackle, and drywall mud here in the states. hope this helps you.
Reminton- thanks! quite a compliment if you thought they were real!
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I agree, looks great!
Say, Belgian, would you know what this top coat stuff is called in dutch?
From the description I'm guessing we call it "mastiek" here in Belgium. And that's actualy just silicone sealant (the stuff in tubes you use to seal a window or a sink)
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Reminton- thanks! quite a compliment if you thought they were real!
Well, they don't look real-real... but they do look more or less solid (plaster or some kind of polystyrene). When you squeezed it with your finger, my brain made a funny sound! :)
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looks really good!
that gives the phrase "undestroyable rock" a new dimension! lol
But - maybe I missed something - how did You make these crackles in the stone? Just with e the paint or are these cracks between parts of foam?
best wishes
Drachenklinge
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The 'Frocks' thread mentions 'top coat'. I couldn't find that here in Britain so I tried 'finishing skim'. It's just like plaster but very slightly more flexible. It would make your rocks as solid as a.......um......rock! ;)
You can also rip up your foam into big chunks before you plaster it to get more of a textured feel. I tried on my skull island hideout for my pirate crew.....
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=f5f8db21c95653777136af4583c582e6&topic=30458.15 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=f5f8db21c95653777136af4583c582e6&topic=30458.15)
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From the description I'm guessing we call it "mastiek" here in Belgium. And that's actualy just silicone sealant (the stuff in tubes you use to seal a window or a sink)
I would also say "mastiek", just used some of the stuff to make flexible roads.
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I would also say "mastiek", just used some of the stuff to make flexible roads.
Hm, interesting, see I would have guessed stuff like "allabastine muurvuller" but I guess a more flexible material is what I am looking for, actually I have some muurvuller lying around, I'll see if that works at all.
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Hm, interesting, see I would have guessed stuff like "allabastine muurvuller" but I guess a more flexible material is what I am looking for, actually I have some muurvuller lying around, I'll see if that works at all.
Mastiek however is a pain to work with, I prefer the cheap silicone material tubes for flexible roads.
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Mastiek however is a pain to work with, I prefer the cheap silicone material tubes for flexible roads.
Belgian, could you name a brand/type ? The idea of making my own flexible roads has been playing in my head for quite a while now.
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Belgian, could you name a brand/type ? The idea of making my own flexible roads has been playing in my head for quite a while now.
My first roads were made by using "acrylaatkit" by topcraft some sort of cheap homebrand of Aldi if I recall correctly, they carry it know and than together with cheap PVA glue.
Here's a link with some pictures of the roads on my blog.
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2009/10/gametable-terrain-set-up.html (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2009/10/gametable-terrain-set-up.html)
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This one was coated in cheap white paintable caulk. Two coats, Mcfly.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fiV2WnpaB8Y/TjrHWbZwCDI/AAAAAAAAATQ/dUDca7n76q0/s1600/stones+6.jpg)
The result? A super flexible rock that can be literally thrown against the wall without damage.
So, this technique could also be used for stones and rocks to be actually thrown at people (as in LARP)? I've been pondering about how to make cheap ones instead of the expensive stuff you can buy in stores... which is also covered in latex, not good for people with allergy...
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I guess so... but its latex caulk. Most paintable calk is.
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"Latex" housepaints haven't actually contained latex for decades. These days they're acrylics formulated to be rubbery and durable like latex, but with with fewer long term decay issues. The "latex" naming convention was just kept because companies believed changing the name would cause more confusion among customers then was justified by the practical distinctions. I'd wager the same is true of "latex" caulk.
Do a Google search for "monster mud". It's a concoction used by Halloween hobbyists to strengthen and weatherproof outdoor decorations, which also doubles as a flexible texture paint. Might be useful for this sort of thing as well.
*edit* Make that ""monster mud" -truck", otherwise you'll just get a bunch of off-roading sites.
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Ive been using monster mud of one type or another for many years now for my own home haunt. The first examples, not the latex one, are basically a light version of that stuff.
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I love Halloween haunt stuff, but I get so few opportunities to do it. I'm just not in the right sort of neighborhood for it. :(
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This is a great idea, the rocks look really nice. Spanky, how did you do the cracks and crevasses in the first pics, did you just slice them into a piece of foam, or did you glue several pieces of foam together?
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Both actually. Most of the cracks are cut with an electic knife, which makes fast work of the foam. When i was making my general shape, I saved the smaller pieces i cut off, finished them, and then glued them back on in a different location.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/spankyhojek/wargaming/stones1colored.jpg~original)
I color coded the one image to give you an idea of what I meant. Each color is a different chunk of foam.
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Great stuff, thanks Spanky! That's very informative piccie, I will try it out myself. :)