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Title: A piece of real estate which me and the wife are bidding on...
Post by: Hammers on 22 August 2011, 04:50:02 PM
...but unfortunately seem to be losing  :? ...

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54662000/jpg/_54662755_skeleton.jpg)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14566625 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14566625)

It is a shame, I had in my mind already the invitations ready for a Gothic Horror SLAM! in my own dungeon. I am gnashing  my teeth as I am sure some fucking Östermalm trust fund asshole is bidding against us to use the house as an occasional place to throw a once a year cocktail party.  >:(
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Post by: richarDISNEY on 23 August 2011, 05:14:30 AM
I think its funny that nowhere in the article do they show the actual house itself!  lol
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Post by: Hammers on 23 August 2011, 07:13:21 AM
I think its funny that nowhere in the article do they show the actual house itself!  lol

It's a quite beautiful, built in the 1750s and very nicely renovated. All within the city walls in Visby. I did not post it before because it has even less relevance for Gothic Horror gaming. :)

(http://bertwig.capitex.se/data/CBild/3TV4QG46/TGA4A57I_q100_w780_mFile_cmOnlyScaleDown.JPG)

All this national and international attention is all due to the fact that it sits on this excavation of the ruins of what's said to be the 13th century church of the Russian merchants of Visby. It is like a private museum down there. Or, as I  said, a private crypt where to play Gothic Horror games. :)

...

It reeeeally smarts that we can't keep up in the bidding any longer. I really despise the other guy in quite irrational ways...  :-[ ;)
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on 23 August 2011, 08:14:15 AM
It's not Malamute is it  ??? lol

How big is the house and crypt (BBC said just three bedrooms, that could mean anything)?

cheers

James
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Post by: Malamute on 23 August 2011, 08:18:15 AM
It's not Malamute is it  ??? lol

How big is the house and crypt (BBC said just three bedrooms, that could mean anything)?

cheers

James

I'm not going to be drawn into this debate about crypts, skeletons and estate agents. ;)
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Post by: Hammers on 23 August 2011, 09:15:52 AM
It's not Malamute is it  ??? lol

How big is the house and crypt (BBC said just three bedrooms, that could mean anything)?

cheers

James

Well, in Sweden we measure in square meters, which doesn't take kitchen and bathrooms in account. So it's 157 square meters, quite a large kitchen and two bathrooms, two walk in closet, half a ruined church in the basement with at least two skeletons.

Hey, Malamute, you're the expert, what's the going price for a house sitting on graves? I mean, I have seen Poltergeist and would think people'd be hesitant. ;)
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Post by: Malamute on 23 August 2011, 09:26:26 AM


Hey, Malamute, you're the expert, what's the going price for a house sitting on graves? I mean, I have seen Poltergeist and would think people'd be hesitant. ;)

Its all about location, location, location. ;)
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Post by: carlos marighela on 23 August 2011, 09:30:51 AM
Curiously enough there was an auction this week for an infamous property in Easey Street, Collingwood, where an unsolved and quite horrific double murder too place in the 1970s. The house was the subject of a rather strange marketing angle and had to be heavily discounted because of its reputation. Friends of mine lived a few doors down in the 1980s and they always thought there was a creepy vibe about the place.

http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/VIC/Collingwood/?adid=2009140100
Title: Re: A piece of real estate which me and the wife are bidding on...
Post by: Hammers on 23 August 2011, 09:40:17 AM
Don't those people in the cellar count as "sitting tenants"?

In England that reduces the asking price for a property by a colossal amount.

Right, especially if it's an old Russian tar merchant...

Well, we're still in the race, apparently. The wife just thought we should raise the bid and I am incapable of saying no. God I detest this process... Sorry Malamute, I shall stop this irrelevance now. I just had a need to unburden my mind a little.
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Post by: Silent Invader on 23 August 2011, 09:43:58 AM
Its all about location, location, location. ;)

Yeah, location of the bodies!   lol
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Post by: Argonor on 23 August 2011, 09:56:26 AM
Does the crypt qualify as bedroom?  ::)
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Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 23 August 2011, 10:35:39 AM
Does the crypt qualify as bedroom?  ::)
With the current housing crisis here in Sweden, yes.
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Post by: Argonor on 23 August 2011, 12:04:35 PM
With the current housing crisis here in Sweden, yes.

You  have too few houses? Come to Denmark, half the houses over here are for sale, it seems...
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Post by: Hammers on 23 August 2011, 12:12:12 PM
You  have too few houses? Come to Denmark, half the houses over here are for sale, it seems...

That was in the news yesterday.
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on 23 August 2011, 01:31:17 PM
Are they going cheap though  ??? Went to Denmark when I was a youngster (trip to Legoland  :D ) and thought it very nice place to live  :)

cheers

James
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Post by: Argonor on 23 August 2011, 01:48:19 PM
Are they going cheap though  ???

Cheap is a relative thing... They are certainly cheaper now than two years ago - we bought last year, just when prices had fallen quite a bit, and interest was very low - but prices are still higher than 6-7 years ago, when the bubble started to get inflated, I think. But with the current financial climate, nobody dares take a mortgage, so now the government is talking about lowering the property-tax fro house-buyers to give an incentative to buy... Thanks a lot, I say - the rest of us can then just keep paying the full amount, just because we read the market right...?
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Post by: The_Beast on 23 August 2011, 02:29:41 PM
Do I read right? The cellar is shared with two other domiciles? Puts the breaks on some ceremonies.  :D

Hammers, to 'merican eyes, the outside looks right for historical (okay, not quite Gothic) horror as well. ;->=

I'm sure I've seen the like in a Hammer film or three.

Doug
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Post by: Hammers on 23 August 2011, 02:42:32 PM
Do I read right? The cellar is shared with two other domiciles? Puts the breaks on some ceremonies.  :D

Think of it as a cult. ;)
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Post by: carlos marighela on 23 August 2011, 09:51:41 PM
That property will command a high price. Who could resist turning the basement into a guest bedroom? Plagued by visiting relatives? No more.....
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Post by: Johnno on 23 August 2011, 11:24:45 PM
Wow, I could never bid on a place like that.
I turned down houses that had cemeteries on the same street (think future zombie outbreak).
I could not imagine having a crypt in the basement though.
Great for Halloween parties I suppose
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Post by: Cory on 24 August 2011, 12:28:32 AM
A few years ago we had a contractor building a spec house who turned up a coffin in good condition. Authorities were called, the coffin opened, and inside was a mummifed girl of twelve or so. Coroner took a look, decided it was nearly a century old and wasn't murder so therefore none of his business.

Sheriff and county said it wasn't their concern and no one had a clue who she was, so reburial was the contractor's responsibility.

Cheapskate that he was he just put the coffin a bit deeper and poored the concrete basement over it.

I drive by that place once or twice a week and wonder who she was.
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Post by: jscottbowman on 24 August 2011, 03:45:39 AM
Makes you wonder if there will be the ghost of a young girl wandering round the place, now that her grave has been disturbed...
Title: Re: A piece of real estate which me and the wife are bidding on...
Post by: Hammers on 24 August 2011, 12:22:43 PM
Hammers

What's the latest on the spooky house? Are you still in a bidding war with the Count from Transylvania?

Well, we have not officially pulled out but in all practical terms we have. At the current bid (not sure what the pound 's at?) we'll have to kill and bury bodies*) beneath some other, cheaper house and wait another 800 years for it to become just as cool.


*)Preferably the sods who are winning the bidding...  >:(
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Post by: Hammers on 24 August 2011, 12:29:57 PM
Makes you wonder if there will be the ghost of a young girl wandering round the place, now that her grave has been disturbed...

Since Malamute doesn't seem to be too upset about this thread I have to ask who among you really do believe in the existence of ghosts and the like?

I am a rationalist myself, but I was amused and perplexed as I, during the Medieval Week of Visby, ran in to a young mother who, when I told her about this piece of property we are looking at , in all sincerity offered that she and her husband would come over 'and rid the place of spirits, in a nice way, because we do that as a hobby!'. Had we been able to buy this house I would definitely have had her over to do this, just for the experiences, but would for the sheer entertainment value have asked for the 'not so nice way' option, if there is one.
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Post by: carlos marighela on 24 August 2011, 06:18:28 PM
My wife claims to, she's a Kardecist. I don't as I am profoundly sceptical about such things. As I love my wife, we tend to avoid discussion of the topic. I view it as a harmless occasional pastime, much as she regards me painting my 'dolls', as she calls them.

I know people who believe in Candomblé and accept the notion of some ethereal aspect of the dead entering the body during their ceremonies. On the whole I accept that as a cultural manifestation so it bothers me not. I can even recall being blessed outside the church at Bonfim by some transvestite devotee a few years ago who waved smoke over me and scattered popcorn over my head as an accompaniment to a blessing on my family. Actually if I were to follow a religion, I suspect I'd go for one where the consumption of cigars and strong booze were used as votary gifts, beats the bejebus out of watery wine and stale wafers.
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on 24 August 2011, 07:14:41 PM
Actually if I were to follow a religion, I suspect I'd go for one where the consumption of cigars and strong booze were used as votary gifts, beats the bejebus out of watery wine and stale wafers.

Sounds bloody good to me  :)

Pretty much the whole female side of my wife's family reckon they have some sort of 'feeling' about that sort of thing. My wife has actually scared me a couple of times by waking me up in the dead of night saying that someone is watching her (I wasn't scared by the ghosty bit, just the fact that I'm a light sleeper and she certainly isn't  lol ).

I'm not convinced at the moment, but like a lot of things I might be if I experienced something definite  :?

cheers

James
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Post by: archangel1 on 25 August 2011, 07:35:48 PM
I believe there is something responsible for all the sightings/feelings/auditory phenomena that have occured and continue to occur.  After all, it's not like it's an isolated happening.  People have experienced things for centuries, if not millennia.  I don't know whether it's stored energy, an 'All-Mind' we tap into, actual physical survival or whatever, but it's there.  I just wish I had a chance to feel it myself but it appears to only hit the maternal female side of my family.  My grandmother saw something when she was younger.  My cousin knew when both my mother and her father died, despite being miles away when it happened and she's experienced other things that had no rational explanation.  Her sister lived in a known 'haunted' house at one time and had her own 'encounters'.  She was very glad when they moved! Let's just say I don't disbelieve.

It's part of the same argument regarding ET's.  Can anybody honestly believe that out of the trillions of stars out there that we are the only sign of intelligent (and I use the word loosely) life?  The only thing scarier than the thought that we're not alone in the universe is the thought that we are.
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Post by: carlos marighela on 25 August 2011, 07:48:22 PM
Ah Bezzo, so it was you over on that travel forum inquiring about where to find a genuine Ayahuasca ceremony in Cheshire..... It's OK, your secret's safe with me. ;)
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Post by: Hammers on 25 August 2011, 08:25:52 PM
I believe there is something responsible for all the sightings/feelings/auditory phenomena that have occured and continue to occur.  After all, it's not like it's an isolated happening.  People have experienced things for centuries, if not millennia.  I don't know whether it's stored energy, an 'All-Mind' we tap into, actual physical survival or whatever, but it's there.  I just wish I had a chance to feel it myself but it appears to only hit the maternal female side of my family.  My grandmother saw something when she was younger.  My cousin knew when both my mother and her father died, despite being miles away when it happened and she's experienced other things that had no rational explanation.  Her sister lived in a known 'haunted' house at one time and had her own 'encounters'.  She was very glad when they moved! Let's just say I don't disbelieve.

It's part of the same argument regarding ET's.  Can anybody honestly believe that out of the trillions of stars out there that we are the only sign of intelligent (and I use the word loosely) life?  The only thing scarier than the thought that we're not alone in the universe is the thought that we are.

I've seen ghosts. I mean I have seen things which are what people think of as ghosts when they experience them.  Once saw a man  standing at the end of my bed, looking down on me. In a moment he was gone. Scared me shitless, it did.

I do however accept that there infinitely better explanations to phenomena like this rather than believing that they are autonomous apparitions of people dead, from heaven or hell or from other dimensions.
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Post by: carlos marighela on 25 August 2011, 10:05:33 PM
Absolut?
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Post by: Hammers on 25 August 2011, 10:13:56 PM
Absolut?

Among other things, yes.
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Post by: white knight on 26 August 2011, 07:47:58 AM
I grew up in a supposedly haunted house. Never saw anything out of the ordinary though.
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Post by: carlos marighela on 26 August 2011, 08:50:31 AM
I grew up in a supposedly haunted house. Never saw anything out of the ordinary though.



Take twice daily if ghostly apparitions occur
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Post by: white knight on 26 August 2011, 09:31:11 AM
I'm not much of a fan of that one, there are better options in this country of beer. ;)
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Post by: joroas on 26 August 2011, 11:45:58 AM
I live in the, supposedly, most haunted village in England, never seen a thing...............
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Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 28 August 2011, 12:16:39 PM
Just to brag, here's the view from our haunted house.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af354/silversixx/Misc/760db1a4.jpg)
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Post by: Colonel Tubby on 28 August 2011, 12:22:24 PM
Just to brag, here's the view from our haunted house.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af354/silversixx/Misc/760db1a4.jpg)

Now that a view to wake-up too!
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Post by: Hammers on 28 August 2011, 12:44:26 PM
Certainly something to brag about. Where is it?

By the way, we may still get the house, the skellies, the crypt, the whole shebang... The back and forth of this process is driving me nuts.
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Post by: Hammers on 28 August 2011, 01:44:38 PM
Certainly something to brag about. Where is it?

By the way, we may still get the house, the skellies, the crypt, the whole shebang... The back and forth of this process is driving me nuts.

So, we lost the bidding although we were the some what late but still highest bidders.  :( The sellers, a conservative lot with something as archaic as an ethic outlook wanted to stick to their mutual agreement with the other bidders. They got much above asking price so I can in some ways respect that.

Still... FUCK!  >:(

Time to hammer a stake in this thread.
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on 28 August 2011, 02:11:07 PM
Never mind fella  :(

You do know that if you had won, we'd all be trooping round and playing CoC, Strange Aeons etc in your basement from now until eternity  :D

cheers

James
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Post by: joroas on 29 August 2011, 01:01:30 PM
Darn, you could have come up with great quips like, the lodger was under my feet all day.
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Post by: Centaur_Seducer on 29 August 2011, 02:10:32 PM
Certainly something to brag about. Where is it?
Bohuslän :)